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Jaromir Jagr said:
Nope, but teams with top 20 talent aren't all that different than teams with top 50 talent, so losses are going to happen. But we know that's not the real complaint. You people actually think we should be in the playoffs.
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Jagr=Resorts to broadbrushing dissenters as “you people” and creating some lame straw man claim that we’re upset and want changes to the offense because we didn’t make the playoffs this year.

The Legend=winner.

Quit while you’re behind, Josie Jagger.
 
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The Franchise said:
Dabo was fighting with Clemson fans last week because they’re undefeated but only beat their rival by 21. Clemson fans have been bytching and moaning because they’re not winning impressively enough.
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We were doing the same in 2002. We trailed Rutgers at halftime that year and people were acting like the sky was falling.
 
Ssoto0055 said:
He nor anyone is saying criticism is not warranted. It's how we're going about it.
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Not a good idea to tell a ****ed off fanbase how to react to what they're seeing. Especially with the issues we're seeing is vastly similar to the Al Golden era. And also, we're not the only fanbase that reacts negatively.
 
orange&green84 said:
Not a good idea to tell a ****ed off fanbase how to react to what they're seeing. Especially with the issues we're seeing is vastly similar to the Al Golden era. And also, we're not the only fanbase that reacts negatively.
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You think because some of us criticize the way other fans express their anger that we're not angry too? The product on the field was unacceptable, but trying to burn it all down doesn't help either. Telling recruits not to come because this program sucks isn't going to help. It makes it harder for the incoming coach to have anything to work with. Flying banners makes recruit think we're like one of those dysfunctional families on Jerry Springer.
 
Ssoto0055 said:
You think because some of us criticize the way other fans express their anger that we're not angry too? The product on the field was unacceptable, but trying to burn it all down doesn't help either. Telling recruits not to come because this program sucks isn't going to help. It makes it harder for the incoming coach to have anything to work with. Flying banners makes recruit think we're like one of those dysfunctional families on Jerry Springer.
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Never did I say tell recruits not to come here. The banners are a different thing, every fanbase has their issues; banners are ours. The original premise of this thread was stating that it's partly the fans' fault for the issues that Miami is having. That's unequivocally false.
 
orange&green84 said:
Basically that fans need to stop acting like ******** and that Richt didn't inherit a stacked roster. So the latter is basically excusable for year 3 that we lose 4 straight games to UVA, BC, GT and Duke.
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I guess anything is excusable if you’re an excuse monger.
 
orange&green84 said:
Never did I say tell recruits not to come here. The banners are a different thing, every fanbase has their issues; banners are ours. The original premise of this thread was stating that it's partly the fans' fault for the issues that Miami is having. That's unequivocally false.
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I didn't say you didn't tell recruits to not come here, but there are members of our fanbase doing such thing. We agree that the original premise of this thread, but he is correct. Crap like flying the banners are part of that reason. We want to act like we're an SEC school and we only fill the stadium for big games while SEC schools are filling up the stadium for directional schools.
 
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Ssoto0055 said:
I didn't say you didn't tell recruits to not come here, but there are members of our fanbase doing such thing. We agree that the original premise of this thread, but he is correct. Crap like flying the banners are part of that reason. We want to act like we're an SEC school and we only fill the stadium for big games while SEC schools are filling up the stadium for directional schools.
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You should see some of UF's games this year and last season when they weren't winning. Half their stadium was empty.

Also, continuing to give money to this administration lets them think things are just fine. The main way to initiate change is money. The administration starts seeing empty stadiums, they'll start making changes. That's how it works.
 
orange&green84 said:
You should see some of UF's games this year and last season when they weren't winning. Half their stadium was empty.

Also, continuing to give money to this administration lets them think things are just fine. The main way to initiate change is money. The administration starts seeing empty stadiums, they'll start making changes. That's how it works.
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I'm not saying go to watch a crap product, but UF was filling the stadium under Meyer and Spurrier even for North Dakota State. We're 11-0 and we only show up for FSU. It makes it harder to be taken seriously that way.
 
Ssoto0055 said:
I'm not saying go to watch a crap product, but UF was filling the stadium under Meyer and Spurrier even for North Dakota State. We're 11-0 and we only show up for FSU. It makes it harder to be taken seriously that way.
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We showed up last season. Please stop trying to make it an attendance narrative now.
 
orange&green84 said:
Those numbers are never accurate. Also, I'm not going to start arguing attendance with you either. If you want to keep focusing on non-relevant issues, have at it.
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That's cool. I have a date with a bottle of Glenlivet anyways. However, ignoring a problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
Ssoto0055 said:
That's cool. I have a date with a bottle of Glenlivet anyways. However, ignoring a problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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I agree. Which is why a lot of fans have been clamoring for Richt to overhaul the staff on the offensive side of the ball. Glad we agree.
 
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orange&green84 said:
I agree. Which is why a lot of fans have been clamoring for Richt to overhaul the staff on the offensive side of the ball. Glad we agree.
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Never said we didn't have problems. Our offense does have problems that need to be addressed. That's not the point of this thread. A portion of our fan base is doing dumb shiit that is also hurting the program.
 
Ssoto0055 said:
No, you're wrong. We can negate each other's statements with conclusions, or you can actually provide a valid reason.
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You made the accusation. You go first.

Show where the fan's bad behavior has hurt the program.

And if that's true, the opposite must also be true.

Show where the fan's good behavior could help the program.
 
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