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rsa coral gables

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There´s 1:38 left on the clock in the fourth quarter, it is 4 and 8 with 25 seconds on the play clock and we have a final timeout left. This is the most important play of the game. Pickup the first down and it's blouses ******* game over.

at 1:31, Mario is signaling to Beck and others that he's going to use the final timeout.

at 1:28, Dawson is pacing behind him very animated and talking very loudly and animatedly into the headset.

at 1:24, Mario is yelling at Carson and Mario seems to be waiving off the use of the final timeout. what?

at 1:16, the play clock is at :02, Fletcher starts to go in motion (he's late) but the ball is hiked on Beck's call, Fletcher has not finished his motion and the timing of the play appears to be disrupted even before an FSU DE rushes freely into Beck's face, Toney gets bumped by an OL (Cici) Bell (i was corrected in a porst below) and is late and the FSU DE causes an early and errant throw by Beck to Toney (who would still be running today).

at the 1:13 mark, the camera pans to Mario and Dawson and Mario looking tenderly to yonder speaks in soliloquy about how you do anything is how you **** everything Dawson says "my bad". Mario responds by blowing Dawson a wet kiss grimacing in a homosexual way (he is from CCHS)(no homo), winking his eyes and nodding, as if acknowledging Dawson's error.

and at the 1:55:48 mark of the video, you can see Dawson staring at Mario with utter shame, despondency and embarrassment in his face looking for a response.

why in God's green earth didn't we call a timeout? what happened? why is it Dawson's "my bad"? AND WHY DON'T OUR REPORTERS ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE TYPES OF PLAYS RATHER THAN THE BULL****E THEY ASK.

/asking for a friend.

 
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Yeah, that sequence was screwed up and the timeout should have been called, but I think they were hoping they'd catch them. Fletcher motion was by design, but Lyons pushed Bell back into Toney which messed up the route and play.
 
kccanefan said:
Yeah, that sequence was screwed up and the timeout should have been called, but I think they were hoping they'd catch them. Fletcher motion was by design, but Lyons pushed Bell back into Toney which messed up the route and play.
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yes, maybe Fletcher's motion was not by design and maybe it was in error because he had the DE? I don't know. and i don't think they were trying to catch FSU off guard. they were ready.

something went wrong very badly on that play. and i would like to know what happened.
 
"Toney gets bumped by an OL (Cici) "

It was Bell.

It looks like they shuffled the line - not an expert so now sure if they ever do that. But they had Bell playing RT and Mauigoa at RG. Different spots than they usually play and changed from the previous 2 plays. I dont know if they were trying to be to tricky or just being foolish with the play call.
 
umusfcanes said:
"Toney gets bumped by an OL (Cici) "

It was Bell.

It looks like they shuffled the line - not an expert so now sure if they ever do that. But they had Bell playing RT and Mauigoa at RG. Different spots than they usually play and changed from the previous 2 plays. I dont know if they were trying to be to tricky or just being foolish with the play call.
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ok, you are right it was Bell, but very respectfully that's irrelevant to the topic of the question that i ask.
 
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rsa coral gables said:
There´s 1:38 left on the clock in the fourth quarter, it is 4 and 8 with 25 seconds on the play clock and we have a final timeout left. This is the most important play of the game. Pickup the first down and it's blouses ******* game over.

at 1:31, Mario is signaling to Beck and others that he's going to use the final timeout.

at 1:28, Dawson is pacing behind him very animated and talking very loudly and animatedly into the headset.

at 1:24, Mario is yelling at Carson and Mario seems to be waiving off the use of the final timeout. what?

at 1:16, the play clock is at :02, Fletcher starts to go in motion (he's late) but the ball is hiked on Beck's call, Fletcher has not finished his motion and the timing of the play appears to be disrupted even before an FSU DE rushes freely into Beck's face, Toney gets bumped by an OL (Cici) and is late and the FSU DE causes an early and errant throw by Beck to Toney (who would still be running today).

at the 1:13 mark, the camera pans to Mario and Dawson and Mario looking tenderly to yonder speaks in soliloquy about how you do anything is how you **** everything Dawson says "my bad". Mario responds by blowing Dawson a wet kiss grimacing, winking his eyes and nodding, as if acknowledging Dawson's error.

why in God's green earth didn't we call a timeout? what happened? why is it Dawson's "my bad"? AND WHY DON'T OUR REPORTERS ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE TYPES OF PLAYS RATHER THAN THE BULL****E THEY ASK.

/asking for a friend.

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The whole thing was weird. What was Bell doing at RT?

Do we have any lip reading experts to see what Mario and Dawson were saying?

I don't think Dawson was saying "My bad". Looked like "Bop Bop", which of course makes total sense.
 
rsa coral gables said:
yes, maybe Fletcher's motion was not by design and maybe it was in error because he had the DE? I don't know. and i don't think they were trying to catch FSU off guard. they were ready.

something went wrong very badly on that play. and i would like to know what happened.
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I don't believe Fletch had the DE. It was an RPO with running motion going left and Toney slipping behind the line going right. If Bell doesn't come up so **** high and get pushed back into Toney, he most likely catches the ball and scores another TD.
 
kccanefan said:
I don't believe Fletch had the DE. It was an RPO with running motion going left and Toney slipping behind the line going right. If Bell doesn't come up so **** high and get pushed back into Toney, he most likely catches the ball and scores another TD.
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ok. good. then who had the DE because that's not the guy to key on in an RPO that's going left, right??
 
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rsa coral gables said:
ok. good. then who had the DE because that's not the guy to key on in an RPO that's going left, right??
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I believe you're hoping they are staying super aggressive crashing on the run were the DE bites and follows the RB left, but still your QB can toss the ball over the top of DE crashing regardless. It would have worked had Bell not gotten pushed back so far.
 
rsa coral gables said:
There´s 1:38 left on the clock in the fourth quarter, it is 4 and 8 with 25 seconds on the play clock and we have a final timeout left. This is the most important play of the game. Pickup the first down and it's blouses ******* game over.

at 1:31, Mario is signaling to Beck and others that he's going to use the final timeout.

at 1:28, Dawson is pacing behind him very animated and talking very loudly and animatedly into the headset.

at 1:24, Mario is yelling at Carson and Mario seems to be waiving off the use of the final timeout. what?

at 1:16, the play clock is at :02, Fletcher starts to go in motion (he's late) but the ball is hiked on Beck's call, Fletcher has not finished his motion and the timing of the play appears to be disrupted even before an FSU DE rushes freely into Beck's face, Toney gets bumped by an OL (Cici) Bell (i was corrected in a porst below) and is late and the FSU DE causes an early and errant throw by Beck to Toney (who would still be running today).

at the 1:13 mark, the camera pans to Mario and Dawson and Mario looking tenderly to yonder speaks in soliloquy about how you do anything is how you **** everything Dawson says "my bad". Mario responds by blowing Dawson a wet kiss grimacing in a homosexual way (he is from CCHS)(no homo), winking his eyes and nodding, as if acknowledging Dawson's error.

why in God's green earth didn't we call a timeout? what happened? why is it Dawson's "my bad"? AND WHY DON'T OUR REPORTERS ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE TYPES OF PLAYS RATHER THAN THE BULL****E THEY ASK.

/asking for a friend.

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Thats a cam play if you cant throw sideways around an unblocked DE.. You better use your baseball past and drop that elbow and sidearm that joint if thats the blocking scheme of releasing DE on statue QB.
 
It was a great play design that I wish we didn't show. Could have used it another time.

Wish we would have just kicked the FG to go up 12, forcing them to score 2 TDs with 0 timeouts and 1:12 on the clock to win, which would have been almost impossible... instead of putting them in position to kick a FG with 25 to go like they did and then be able to go for the onside kick.

No idea why we didn't line up in a normal alignment, just try to get them to jump on a hard count, call the timeout, go back out there and execute it in rhythm and it works like a charm.
 
skyman said:
Thats a cam play if you cant throw sideways around an unblocked DE.. You better use your baseball past and drop that elbow and sidearm that joint if thats the blocking scheme of releasing DE on statue QB.
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that's exactly what i thought of when i saw the replay last night while binge drugging and skull f@cking my escort.
 
JayCane20 said:
It was a great play design that I wish we didn't show. Could have used it another time.

Wish we would have just kicked the FG to go up 12, forcing them to score 2 TDs with 0 timeouts and 1:12 on the clock to win, which would have been almost impossible... instead of putting them in position to kick a FG with 25 to go like they did and then be able to go for the onside kick.

No idea why we didn't line up in a normal alignment, just try to get them to jump on a hard count, call the timeout, go back out there and execute it in rhythm and it works like a charm.
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it was a great design, replicating the success we had numerous times with Mallory and Arroyo with a similar design.
 
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Just rewatched it and I'm even more confused/amused at that play.. we lined up in line with Bauman-McCoy-Brockermeyer-Cooper-Cici-Bell from left to right. I initially though the LB was pointing out Toney's alignment but he was pointing out Bauman lined up as the "LT" and expecting him to leak out, which he did and was picked up. He was "eligible" because he was the end player on the LOS.

Toney actually ran into Bell who was aligned as the "TE" on the right side of the formation.

Interesting. I would have/going forward we should try motioning Toney pre-snap across the face of the QB or even orbit motion, fake the handoff to Fletcher going back across the left side, and run Bauman or Lofton up the seam from the "LT" alignment. Motion looks like you're setting up a screen and the "blocker" can leak out.
 
bacane said:
Mario wanted to put it on them.
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no, mario wanted to end the game and in retrospect that was probably the safest option. too many things can happen with a FG (stand by for that topic). the long snapper is snapping the ball on the ground to the holder. see this porst.

rsa coral gables

X's and O's Post in thread 'Extra Point Operation'

so we had two MORE fumbled snaps on two extra points versus FSU. @JHallCanes is this a trend? what the f@ck is going on. this will cost us a game down the road. WHY IS NO ONE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS? I WANT TO HIRE THE LSU REPORTERS.

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