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Final ESPN 300 rankings

If Golden can make this team look like a legitimate top 25 team year in and year out then the elite recruits will start coming again.
 
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Jassid82 said:
CANE4LIFE said:
Honest question, but didnt Golden mention this when he was hired? At the press conference he pointed out how we had like 1 or none players no the ESPN 300 committed and that it was going to be one of his priorities to change that? If so, I would say that is a major improvement over where we were in 2011.

In all fairness, the 2011 class was an epic disaster, and probably one reason for some of our major struggles this year. That's not to say we dont have other major issues, but if he keeps this class mostly intact, and keeps recruiting like this, we are absolutely going to get better and be a competitive team. Wether or not he can take it to the next level is another question, but that's a pretty **** impressive list considering what he walked into in 2011.
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That 2011 recruiting season turned the tide in the state. It got FSU the MNC and got us to where we are now. Mediocore. Look at the players FSU got in that 2011 class. It was the core of their championship team.
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That class really was a disaster for us. Something people just keep overlooking when you look at all our issues. Clearly we have other issues, but that recruiting class was possibly the worst at UM in 30+ years, and it definitely made things that much worse for us this year.
 
Berrios balling out at the UA game on a torn ACL alone should have garnered him a bigger jump in the ESPN 300...but, whatever. I'm glad he's a Cane. He'll be back and ready to roll soon enough.
 
That's a **** impressive list for ANY school. If we can add Valentine to that list... it will be one of the best classes we have ever brought in. Problem is we all got spoiled with having it locked up so early, which left little room to add, but too much room for guys to flake out, not qualify, and/or flip.
 
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Whats crazy about that list, is that it doesnt even include DJackson, who is a 4 star with a TOn of upside as he grows and learns the game. And Gray, who is probably the best pure athlete in So Fla, but was a bit overlooked because he didnt play what he is best suited for at the next level, and has grades issues.
 
How many 300s does FSU and UF have? How many did we have in 2008 and 2012? Curious.... At work.
 
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TheU1984 said:
How many 300s does FSU and UF have? How many did we have in 2008 and 2012? Curious.... At work.
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2008 we had a decent amount. 2012 was not as many. On paper, this is AGs best class since he has been here, assuming he can keep most of it together.
 
Interesting to look at is how many players in each class are graded at 80 or better by ESPN by year. It steadily fell under Shannon, and has been steadily rising under Golden. I didn't count players who didn't Quailfy

2008 - 14
2009 - 7
2010 - 6
2011 - 3
2012 - 7
2013 - 9
2014 - 13
 
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bshaw28 said:
Interesting to look at is how many players in each class are graded at 80 or better by ESPN by year. It steadily fell under Shannon, and has been steadily rising under Golden. I didn't count players who didn't Quailfy

2008 - 14
2009 - 7
2010 - 6
2011 - 3
2012 - 7
2013 - 9
2014 - 13
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And this is what we were dealing with largely this year. 2010 and 2011 players. Those were horrible classes by UM standards. On TOP of that, think of players from those classes we lost, like Finnie, EJ, Paul, Terry, Storm Johnson, guys who could have had an impact. The upperclassmen ranks on this team were in horrible shape this year.
 
CANE4LIFE said:
bshaw28 said:
Interesting to look at is how many players in each class are graded at 80 or better by ESPN by year. It steadily fell under Shannon, and has been steadily rising under Golden. I didn't count players who didn't Quailfy

2008 - 14
2009 - 7
2010 - 6
2011 - 3
2012 - 7
2013 - 9
2014 - 13
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And this is what we were dealing with largely this year. 2010 and 2011 players. Those were horrible classes by UM standards. On TOP of that, think of players from those classes we lost, like Finnie, EJ, Paul, Terry, Storm Johnson, guys who could have had an impact. The upperclassmen ranks on this team were in horrible shape this year.
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ESPN changed their rankings starting in 2013. That is why there are more 80+ in general
 
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TheU1984 said:
How many 300s does FSU and UF have? How many did we have in 2008 and 2012? Curious.... At work.
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As of now:

FSU: 12
UF: 11

JC Jackson could still flip to FSU.
UF is in Lorenzo Carter's top 3.
FSU in it for Humphrey.
Lane, Lammons, Valentine & McKenzie all uncommitted.
 
CANE4LIFE said:
bshaw28 said:
Interesting to look at is how many players in each class are graded at 80 or better by ESPN by year. It steadily fell under Shannon, and has been steadily rising under Golden. I didn't count players who didn't Quailfy

2008 - 14
2009 - 7
2010 - 6
2011 - 3
2012 - 7
2013 - 9
2014 - 13
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And this is what we were dealing with largely this year. 2010 and 2011 players. Those were horrible classes by UM standards. On TOP of that, think of players from those classes we lost, like Finnie, EJ, Paul, Terry, Storm Johnson, guys who could have had an impact. The upperclassmen ranks on this team were in horrible shape this year.
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Correct!

2010 Top Ranked Commits

Storm Johnson (transfer)
David Perry (scrub)
Brandon Linder (solid pickup and arguably our best Lineman for the past 4years)
Kevin Nelson (bum)
Eduardo Clements (hurt for the majority of his career... never really contributed)
Tavadis Glenn (never qualified)
Latwan Anderson (quit/ disappeared)
Seantrell Henderson (possibly the most heralded recruit we signed, and huge disappointment overall)
 
PUNCICANE said:
CANE4LIFE said:
bshaw28 said:
Interesting to look at is how many players in each class are graded at 80 or better by ESPN by year. It steadily fell under Shannon, and has been steadily rising under Golden. I didn't count players who didn't Quailfy

2008 - 14
2009 - 7
2010 - 6
2011 - 3
2012 - 7
2013 - 9
2014 - 13
Click to expand...

And this is what we were dealing with largely this year. 2010 and 2011 players. Those were horrible classes by UM standards. On TOP of that, think of players from those classes we lost, like Finnie, EJ, Paul, Terry, Storm Johnson, guys who could have had an impact. The upperclassmen ranks on this team were in horrible shape this year.
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Correct!

2010 Top Ranked Commits

Storm Johnson (transfer)
David Perry (scrub)
Brandon Linder (solid pickup and arguably our best Lineman for the past 4years)
Kevin Nelson (bum)
Eduardo Clements (hurt for the majority of his career... never really contributed)
Tavadis Glenn (never qualified)
Latwan Anderson (quit/ disappeared)
Seantrell Henderson (possibly the most heralded recruit we signed, and huge disappointment overall)
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Hard to believe, but 2011 was even worse:

only 4 4star players:

Chickillo : (great motor, hard worker, but seems to have hit his athletic ceiling his freshman year)
Kevin Grooms : (didn't qualify)
Dallas Crawford : (used out of position out of necessity. Belongs at safety or in the slot. Not a BCS caliber RB)
Jalen Grimble : (horrible film for a 4*, never did anything, quit)
 
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