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Fermaninator says get your Adidas Cane gear

Rellyrell said:
DiegoCane said:
DCF in LA said:
dreadloxdp said:
I can't believe this thread has made it to 17 pages. Apparently the soft shouldered **** attitude perpetrated by Golden and Co. has even affected the fans. You mother****ers are way too concerned with product these guys are wearing.
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22 pages on the WEZ, and I came to the same conclusion. If you care more about the designer logo than the on-field product, you're part of the problem.

Our best days ever came wearing Russell f'kin' Athletic jerseys, and everybody sweating Miami Starter jackets. I give no ****s about Nike if they don't want to match the extra 3 million.
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Agree with this.

And here is the thing, if we had a competent administration (which we don't) this would be a dream come true. The 4 million extra could go to 2 mill a year more for a big time HC and the other 2 mill to increase the assistant salary. 4.5 million a year at Miami is all of a sudden a very very attractive job.
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Adidas could over us $50m more per season and this Admin will still find a way to F up and use it for any and everything but Athletics. There's nothing competent about this admin's decision making, from hiring coaches, maintaining long-lasting relatioships w/ endorsers or in the community. This is just another example of greed superceding logic. Haven't Nevin Shapiro taught us anything about Miami? They are in it for the money, not for the student athletes.
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I agree with the admin being incompetent.

I'm not understanding the other part. Why is better for the student athletes to be wearing Nike?
 
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All of you guys are so frustrated about this thread,why post on it...It clearly says in the title its about the uniforms so if you don't care why post? There are a million other threads about how awful our program is, why does this one have to be one too. I don't think anyone cares more about the uniforms than the product on the field, but i don't think its a crime to care about what the uniforms will look like. I'm not as old as some you guys so I don't know the U without Nike, i prefer Nike, not because i'm brainwashed but because i have a preference. Some of you prefer marlboros to newports, doesnt make you brainwashed you just prefer one brand over the other. If leaving Nike means the team will have more money to upgrade athletics then i'm all for it but we all know where there extra money is gonna go.
 
The big difference I see between Nike and UA/Adidas is that UA/Adidas would have financial incentive into the success of Miami's on the field product, where Nike is just there as a sponsor.
 
DiegoCane said:
Rellyrell said:
DiegoCane said:
DCF in LA said:
dreadloxdp said:
I can't believe this thread has made it to 17 pages. Apparently the soft shouldered **** attitude perpetrated by Golden and Co. has even affected the fans. You mother****ers are way too concerned with product these guys are wearing.
Click to expand...

22 pages on the WEZ, and I came to the same conclusion. If you care more about the designer logo than the on-field product, you're part of the problem.

Our best days ever came wearing Russell f'kin' Athletic jerseys, and everybody sweating Miami Starter jackets. I give no ****s about Nike if they don't want to match the extra 3 million.
Click to expand...

Agree with this.

And here is the thing, if we had a competent administration (which we don't) this would be a dream come true. The 4 million extra could go to 2 mill a year more for a big time HC and the other 2 mill to increase the assistant salary. 4.5 million a year at Miami is all of a sudden a very very attractive job.
Click to expand...

Adidas could over us $50m more per season and this Admin will still find a way to F up and use it for any and everything but Athletics. There's nothing competent about this admin's decision making, from hiring coaches, maintaining long-lasting relatioships w/ endorsers or in the community. This is just another example of greed superceding logic. Haven't Nevin Shapiro taught us anything about Miami? They are in it for the money, not for the student athletes.
Click to expand...

I agree with the admin being incompetent.

I'm not understanding the other part. Why is better for the student athletes to be wearing Nike?
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Nike sells itself. Kids like Nike...a nike swoosh, whether this is comprehendable or not actually helps recruiting. Miami makes more money on the back end for keeping it's endorsement w/ Nike. NFL jersey sales, per the bloomberg report, increased significantly when the NFL signed a licensing deal w/ Nike and was reported to increase the NFL's back end money by $500m annually due to the switch. You know why?? B/C MOST PEOPLE PREFER NIKE which is why they hold an 80% margin in the sporting market GLOBALLY.

See, that's the power of maintaining an allegiance w/ a monster sponsor...the same monster sponsor that started this trend w/ us in the first place. Adidas will hurt us; we will see a gain on the front end, and suffer greatly on the back end. There's a reason why athletes take less money to sign w/ Nike (except KD, LBJ, and Kobe)...****, even Jordan took less money to stay w/ Nike when Converse and Adidas made pitches...it's because of that glorified back end money they receive from shoe sales.

I think Nike will pony up b/c of that lasting relationship they've had w/ us and we introduced them to the licensing game in the first place, plus i have a frat brother who's one of the associate marketers for nike global and he texted me that they are mulling over several licensing deals to see who's still making them money and who's not and UM happens to be one of them still making them a little money and out of loyalty, they may just give in...but he also said don't be surprised if they pull out if UM tries to continue to play hard ball. They just made that exception for KD b/c KD took less money to be on the team when he first signed, but he's made them a huge amount of money, especially within the female and children community b/c of his uni-*** sneakers.

I said all that to just say that staying w/ Nike is the smart choice...numbers don't lie, even if the admin tries to spin like this will be a good investment to make more money...a deal w/ Adidas will be fool's gold.
 
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dfreshhookup said:
The big difference I see between Nike and UA/Adidas is that UA/Adidas would have financial incentive into the success of Miami's on the field product, where Nike is just there as a sponsor.
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Nike is about money, period. You're not going to continue to be on the team if you're not making money for them. They had a financial interest in Lance Armstrong didn't they? They invested in him big time, even defending him, until he spat in their face. They invested big time in Tiger Woods and Rory McElroy...went to bat for Tiger. They stayed loyal to us even though we were caught up in several scandals. Nike has an interest in us growing...we were their first marriage.
 
Rellyrell said:
dfreshhookup said:
The big difference I see between Nike and UA/Adidas is that UA/Adidas would have financial incentive into the success of Miami's on the field product, where Nike is just there as a sponsor.
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Nike is about money, period. You're not going to continue to be on the team if you're not making money for them. They had a financial interest in Lance Armstrong didn't they? They invested in him big time, even defending him, until he spat in their face. They invested big time in Tiger Woods and Rory McElroy...went to bat for Tiger. They stayed loyal to us even though we were caught up in several scandals. Nike has an interest in us growing...we were their first marriage.
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Look at the schools under the Nike NCAA banner and get back to me with that statement.
 
Rellyrell said:
DiegoCane said:
Rellyrell said:
DiegoCane said:
DCF in LA said:
22 pages on the WEZ, and I came to the same conclusion. If you care more about the designer logo than the on-field product, you're part of the problem.

Our best days ever came wearing Russell f'kin' Athletic jerseys, and everybody sweating Miami Starter jackets. I give no ****s about Nike if they don't want to match the extra 3 million.
Click to expand...

Agree with this.

And here is the thing, if we had a competent administration (which we don't) this would be a dream come true. The 4 million extra could go to 2 mill a year more for a big time HC and the other 2 mill to increase the assistant salary. 4.5 million a year at Miami is all of a sudden a very very attractive job.
Click to expand...

Adidas could over us $50m more per season and this Admin will still find a way to F up and use it for any and everything but Athletics. There's nothing competent about this admin's decision making, from hiring coaches, maintaining long-lasting relatioships w/ endorsers or in the community. This is just another example of greed superceding logic. Haven't Nevin Shapiro taught us anything about Miami? They are in it for the money, not for the student athletes.
Click to expand...

I agree with the admin being incompetent.

I'm not understanding the other part. Why is better for the student athletes to be wearing Nike?
Click to expand...

Nike sells itself. Kids like Nike...a nike swoosh, whether this is comprehendable or not actually helps recruiting. Miami makes more money on the back end for keeping it's endorsement w/ Nike. NFL jersey sales, per the bloomberg report, increased significantly when the NFL signed a licensing deal w/ Nike and was reported to increase the NFL's back end money by $500m annually due to the switch. You know why?? B/C MOST PEOPLE PREFER NIKE which is why they hold an 80% margin in the sporting market GLOBALLY.

See, that's the power of maintaining an allegiance w/ a monster sponsor...the same monster sponsor that started this trend w/ us in the first place. Adidas will hurt us; we will see a gain on the front end, and suffer greatly on the back end. There's a reason why athletes take less money to sign w/ Nike (except KD, LBJ, and Kobe)...****, even Jordan took less money to stay w/ Nike when Converse and Adidas made pitches...it's because of that glorified back end money they receive from shoe sales.

I think Nike will pony up b/c of that lasting relationship they've had w/ us and we introduced them to the licensing game in the first place, plus i have a frat brother who's one of the associate marketers for nike global and he texted me that they are mulling over several licensing deals to see who's still making them money and who's not and UM happens to be one of them still making them a little money and out of loyalty, they may just give in...but he also said don't be surprised if they pull out if UM tries to continue to play hard ball. They just made that exception for KD b/c KD took less money to be on the team when he first signed, but he's made them a huge amount of money, especially within the female and children community b/c of his uni-*** sneakers.

I said all that to just say that staying w/ Nike is the smart choice...numbers don't lie, even if the admin tries to spin like this will be a good investment to make more money...a deal w/ Adidas will be fool's gold.
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That's all good to say but you don't know the back end numbers. That is your opinion and frankly a guess.

This admin is all about money. They won't fire Golden because of a buyout. They don't improve facilities because of money. They are incompetent but you really think they will make a deal that costs them money? You think Auburn made a deal that costs them money?

I would prefer Nike too if all things are equal. I just disagree adamantly that Nike somehow is a huge driving factor in the Miami brand. Miami was built before Nike came calling. I can't think of anyone would correlates Miami to Nike when thinking about Miami's brand.
 
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Rellyrell said:
DiegoCane said:
58straight said:
if any of you have a question of whether miami can play without a **** swoosh mark on the jersey have a look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9WVH-KU14
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Watching these vids **** me off more about the current staff and ****ty *** defensive scheme we run.

James Stewart wasted some serious talent.
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We were sponsored by Nike then...I don't get your point?
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Nike has absolutely nothing to do with my point. I'm talking about the defense and James Stewart.
 
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dfreshhookup said:
Rellyrell said:
dfreshhookup said:
The big difference I see between Nike and UA/Adidas is that UA/Adidas would have financial incentive into the success of Miami's on the field product, where Nike is just there as a sponsor.
Click to expand...

Nike is about money, period. You're not going to continue to be on the team if you're not making money for them. They had a financial interest in Lance Armstrong didn't they? They invested in him big time, even defending him, until he spat in their face. They invested big time in Tiger Woods and Rory McElroy...went to bat for Tiger. They stayed loyal to us even though we were caught up in several scandals. Nike has an interest in us growing...we were their first marriage.
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Look at the schools under the Nike NCAA banner and get back to me with that statement.
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I have...UF, Bama, USC, FSU, LSU, Michigan State, OSU, Arizona, UNC, Baylor, TCU, Texas, Baylor Women's basketball, North Dakata State, Miami, Stanford....

maybe this link will help you out since you're questioning me:

http://thefieldsofgreen.com/2014/08...y-sponsorships-of-top-college-football-teams/
 
A Adidas got some fly **** and they comfortable, and i think there cleats are lighter then Nikes i like the idea i mean Miami is a brand of its own so we don't really need no apparel company to make us, ima buy Miami gear regardless of the fact, plus we could us them 3 mill extra for a new coach or indoor practice field i love this move not lets go get that TV Contract... Nike is overrated
 
Rellyrell said:
dfreshhookup said:
Rellyrell said:
dfreshhookup said:
The big difference I see between Nike and UA/Adidas is that UA/Adidas would have financial incentive into the success of Miami's on the field product, where Nike is just there as a sponsor.
Click to expand...

Nike is about money, period. You're not going to continue to be on the team if you're not making money for them. They had a financial interest in Lance Armstrong didn't they? They invested in him big time, even defending him, until he spat in their face. They invested big time in Tiger Woods and Rory McElroy...went to bat for Tiger. They stayed loyal to us even though we were caught up in several scandals. Nike has an interest in us growing...we were their first marriage.
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Look at the schools under the Nike NCAA banner and get back to me with that statement.
Click to expand...

I have...UF, Bama, USC, FSU, LSU, Michigan State, OSU, Arizona, UNC, Baylor, TCU, Texas, Baylor Women's basketball, North Dakata State, Miami, Stanford....

maybe this link will help you out since you're questioning me:

http://thefieldsofgreen.com/2014/08...y-sponsorships-of-top-college-football-teams/
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Now name the 30 other schools Nike sponsors and how much their brand is powering Nike. I'm sure the likes of East Carolina University, University of Wyoming, Utah State University, University of South Alabama, University of Nevada, Reno and Georgia State University are really pulling in big dollars for Nike.
 
DiegoCane said:
Rellyrell said:
DiegoCane said:
Rellyrell said:
DiegoCane said:
Agree with this.

And here is the thing, if we had a competent administration (which we don't) this would be a dream come true. The 4 million extra could go to 2 mill a year more for a big time HC and the other 2 mill to increase the assistant salary. 4.5 million a year at Miami is all of a sudden a very very attractive job.
Click to expand...

Adidas could over us $50m more per season and this Admin will still find a way to F up and use it for any and everything but Athletics. There's nothing competent about this admin's decision making, from hiring coaches, maintaining long-lasting relatioships w/ endorsers or in the community. This is just another example of greed superceding logic. Haven't Nevin Shapiro taught us anything about Miami? They are in it for the money, not for the student athletes.
Click to expand...

I agree with the admin being incompetent.

I'm not understanding the other part. Why is better for the student athletes to be wearing Nike?
Click to expand...

Nike sells itself. Kids like Nike...a nike swoosh, whether this is comprehendable or not actually helps recruiting. Miami makes more money on the back end for keeping it's endorsement w/ Nike. NFL jersey sales, per the bloomberg report, increased significantly when the NFL signed a licensing deal w/ Nike and was reported to increase the NFL's back end money by $500m annually due to the switch. You know why?? B/C MOST PEOPLE PREFER NIKE which is why they hold an 80% margin in the sporting market GLOBALLY.

See, that's the power of maintaining an allegiance w/ a monster sponsor...the same monster sponsor that started this trend w/ us in the first place. Adidas will hurt us; we will see a gain on the front end, and suffer greatly on the back end. There's a reason why athletes take less money to sign w/ Nike (except KD, LBJ, and Kobe)...****, even Jordan took less money to stay w/ Nike when Converse and Adidas made pitches...it's because of that glorified back end money they receive from shoe sales.

I think Nike will pony up b/c of that lasting relationship they've had w/ us and we introduced them to the licensing game in the first place, plus i have a frat brother who's one of the associate marketers for nike global and he texted me that they are mulling over several licensing deals to see who's still making them money and who's not and UM happens to be one of them still making them a little money and out of loyalty, they may just give in...but he also said don't be surprised if they pull out if UM tries to continue to play hard ball. They just made that exception for KD b/c KD took less money to be on the team when he first signed, but he's made them a huge amount of money, especially within the female and children community b/c of his uni-*** sneakers.

I said all that to just say that staying w/ Nike is the smart choice...numbers don't lie, even if the admin tries to spin like this will be a good investment to make more money...a deal w/ Adidas will be fool's gold.
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That's all good to say but you don't know the back end numbers. That is your opinion and frankly a guess.

This admin is all about money. They won't fire Golden because of a buyout. They don't improve facilities because of money. They are incompetent but you really think they will make a deal that costs them money? You think Auburn made a deal that costs them money?

I would prefer Nike too if all things are equal. I just disagree adamantly that Nike somehow is a huge driving factor in the Miami brand. Miami was built before Nike came calling. I can't think of anyone would correlates Miami to Nike when thinking about Miami's brand.
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It's not an opinion...it's totally facts!!! Sales are sales, period. Nike drives more sales than Adidas by a 5 to 1 margin currently. This admin is looking straight at a $3m more increase up front, they are not looking at revenue sales generated from jersey sales....look up Michigan Jersey sales after they switched from Nike to Adidas...yeah, Adidas gave more up front, but their jersey sales tanked after the switch...many were crying for Michigan to renew their contract w/ Nike to this very day.
 
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