Fan support for Cristobal?

[WR Cane]

Lots of armchair corches on here forget not long ago Butch was laughing in Danny Miaz’ face after putting the smackdown on Miami.

 

[Angry Ibis]

I do and if Dabo played the portal game like everyone else does he may be undefeated and looking at the CFP right now.

Dabo is adapting to the portal away from Clemson being right back in the mix. If not, well that is his grave.

 

[MikeyCanez]

Moving the goal posts. No one said no coaches have warts. You said Mario deserves better. He does not. He burned through his fan equity. He has little to no answers live on game day, so when people say clueless, that is his feel for the game, HIS ability to adapt live, etc.

Since you brought up Lane. He would win 10 here. In fact, we were told MANY MANY MANY times that ANY COMPETENT COACH WOULD WIN 10 in the ACC at Miami.

So no, he does not deserve better in year 4 making the same or similar coaching mistakes he has made throughout his 10+ year head coaching career. He deserves accountability.

You know who "deserved better"? -- Richt. Richt deserved better, but we held him accountable for Jon Richt. I see no issue with those holding Mario accountable or questioning the coaching dynamic.

Keep winning because the players and supporters of the program deserve better.

Fair enough. He should be held accountable, of course, and there is plenty to criticize (penalties being the most obvious IMO).

I just don't think a game where more than 30% of our possessions end in a turnover is some glaring example of coaching malpractice. Our veteran quarterback failed to protect the ball and there are very few, if any, coaches who could overcome that.

Not saying he was perfect on Friday. He wasn't close to perfect. But there are other ways that Miami loses football games outside of "This Is Who Mario Is" and sometimes it is okay to acknowledge that.

 

[MikeyCanez]

lol
You actually compared Mario to head coaches who actually won playoff games and another coach that’s beating him 2 straight

Day, Kirby and Lanning are the only coaches on that list who have won playoff games...and are probably the only three that have a DEFINITIVELY better resume.

Mario just beat Freeman in (almost) convincing fashion. Tennessee might lose four games this season. DeBoer got owned by FSU of all teams to start the season.

You can poke holes in any of these guys.

 

[PoppaTop]

Elko

And how many has Mario beaten on that list?

 

[PoppaTop]

With all due respect, the point of having superior talent is to be able to beat inferior opponents with ease. Well, Mario does not do that. Hence why he has 6 Ls as a double digit fave since becoming HC at UM, which is the most in the country during that span.

So what good is bringing in all that talent, if you are just going to lose to inferior teams regularly? He also has 10Ls as a fave since arriving at UM, once again, the most by any HC in FBS during that span. This trend goes back to his days at OU.

Has Mario raised the floor here? Absolutely.

Is the program in a better place from prior to his arrival? Absolutely.

Will Mario ever win anything of real signifigance here? My opinion is that he won't. He routinely loses to inferior teams, due to his lack of being a good gameday HC and having no advantage when it comes to Xs and Os.

If we make it to the playoffs, he will be playing against teams with similar or better talent, 95% of the time, plus going against coaches who likely will all have an advantage, and in some cases a drastic one when it comes to Xs and Os.

If the fanbase is ok with 9-10 wins regularly routinely, with no legit shot at winning it all, Mario is our guy. If we want more, it won't be him.

What's funny about this frame of mind is that we've been excellent at winning the biggest games since he's gotten his team in place. People are speaking out of both sides of their mouth saying that he loses the layup game, while also saying that we have no shot in the playoffs if we get in.

He walloped Florida on the road last year. Took down Notre Dame, FSU, and UF this year. Even with a worse team, he beat A&M and Clemson (with Emory) 2 years ago and almost took down undefeated FSU. He beat Ohio State in their own stadium while at Oregon. Won the Pac-12 multiple times and a Rose Bowl.

His "bad losses" are what hold him back - and everybody thinks we're dead in the water if we make the playoffs? You can't have it both ways, mopes.

 

[hoops156]

i trust mario to do everything he can to win and build us back. i dont know if he will get it done, but he will def leave us at a higher talent floor. ideally, he becomes the AD for the canes

 

[dade305cane]

Which coach is currently setting the standard for not "losing a game he shouldn't"?

These goofs don't watch college football. They see a Miami loss, and it must be because we have an idiot head coach, period.

Your responses are the same in defending Mario and you can't see past what MFers are trying to say. We ALL want the team to win and wish Mario in succeeding in doing so BUT that don't absolve him from criticism with his in-game decisions and clock management.

 

[SpikeUM]

We're 5-1 and a top 10 team in the country . . . Let's see how season plays before we call for his head haha

GTFOOH with logic, this is CIS, home of the idiot porsters!!!!

 

[STG]

Here is the preseason Top 15, the supposed best of the best.

How many of these Top 15 have “beaten inferior teams with ease” so far this season?

How many of them have a better overall resume, since we regularly lose to inferior opponents?


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IDC about JUST this year or OTHER teams. I care about the guy who coaches OUR TEAM.

And as much as YOU, or anyone who wants to always come up with some excuse to defend Mario, facts are the facts and are all that matter.

What are the facts?

1. Mario has 6 losses as a double digit fave in 3.5 years at UM. More than any other HC in FBS during that pan. In year 3 and 4, when he has already instilled his "culture" and had his players, he has 3 of those 6. So nothing has changed regardless.

2. Mario has 10 losses as a favorite while HC at UM. 4 of those 10 have come in year 3 and 4. He has a total of 15 losses as a fave between OU and UM.

3. Mario has 9 straight years between OU and UM where he has lost at least 1 game as a double digit favorite. No other HC in FBS has accomplished that glorious feat during that span.

The point is a simple one. The facts show he does less with more versus ANY other HC in FBS. The facts show we are at a massive disadvantage versus opponents who have a schematic/X's and O's advantage against us.

I get it, you don't like facts and are a Mario defender. But, there is zero denying what Mario is and isn't as a HC.

As far as better overall resume, as of this moment we have a great win over 1 P4 team and 1 G5 team. FSU and UF are cheeks. Yes, great for us fans since they are our rivals, but those wins mean nothing except to us. We are a top 10 team. Not sure we have the best resume as you seem to be implying.

 

[TheEye]

Correct. We just spend more money to underperform now...

We will see at the end of the season. How many bowl wins when we spent less? How many double digit seasons when we spent less? Still could get a bowl win and double digit season this year.

 

[Hollywood13]

All things considered, Mario is the best coach since Butch. It’s not saying much though.

Hard disagree. He has been given (not recruited) the most talented teams at Miami since Butch, absolutely, but Miami has been bad for last 4 seasons because of Mario.

First two seasons were terrible, 3rd season, considering the talent was IMO even worse and this season looks to be a waste again.

 

[Hollywood13]

Fair enough. He should be held accountable, of course, and there is plenty to criticize (penalties being the most obvious IMO).

I just don't think a game where more than 30% of our possessions end in a turnover is some glaring example of coaching malpractice. Our veteran quarterback failed to protect the ball and there are very few, if any, coaches who could overcome that.

Not saying he was perfect on Friday. He wasn't close to perfect. But there are other ways that Miami loses football games outside of "This Is Who Mario Is" and sometimes it is okay to acknowledge that.

and who picked the veteran QB over Mendoza? Extreme ownership, IT ALL falls on the coaches, and his results show exactly who he is - a terrible head football coach.

 

[MumbleRap]

Hard disagree. He has been given (not recruited) the most talented teams at Miami since Butch, absolutely, but Miami has been bad for last 4 seasons because of Mario.

First two seasons were terrible, 3rd season, considering the talent was IMO even worse and this season looks to be a waste again.

Stopped reading at “not recruited”

 

[STG]

What's funny about this frame of mind is that we've been excellent at winning the biggest games since he's gotten his team in place. People are speaking out of both sides of their mouth saying that he loses the layup game, while also saying that we have no shot in the playoffs if we get in.

He walloped Florida on the road last year. Took down Notre Dame, FSU, and UF this year. Even with a worse team, he beat A&M and Clemson (with Emory) 2 years ago and almost took down undefeated FSU. He beat Ohio State in their own stadium while at Oregon. Won the Pac-12 multiple times and a Rose Bowl.

His "bad losses" are what hold him back - and everybody thinks we're dead in the water if we make the playoffs? You can't have it both ways, mopes.

Here's the problem with your argument, beating UF in 2024 and 2025, plus FSU in 2025 mean nothing outside of our fanbase. Those teams were average to terrible. Yes, great for us as fans. But nobody outside of our fanbase considers those big wins when those teams aren't good.

With that being said, Mario is also 4-6 against ranked opponents since arriving at UM. That record is based on opponents rankings at the time those games were played. It's worse if we look at the end of the season rankings.

 

[MikeyCanez]

and who picked the veteran QB over Mendoza? Extreme ownership, IT ALL falls on the coaches, and his results show exactly who he is - a terrible head football coach.

Found a mope!

 

[Schnelly'sPipe]

If not Mario with all of the resources and all of his recruits and his deep passionate love for UM.. if not Mario then who?

 

[The canesman]

As a Mario defender I agree with everything you posted here. I believe Mario has and is still building a championship caliber team. I find it frustrating when the team shows up flat doesn’t execute and has no emotion.at times I question on field team leadership.

 

[MikeyCanez]

Here's the problem with your argument, beating UF in 2024 and 2025, plus FSU in 2025 mean nothing outside of our fanbase. Those teams were average to terrible. Yes, great for us as fans. But nobody outside of our fanbase considers those big wins when those teams aren't good.

With that being said, Mario is also 4-6 against ranked opponents since arriving at UM. That record is based on opponents rankings at the time those games were played. It's worse if we look at the end of the season rankings.

We are 3-0 against ranked opponents this season. Love showing vast improvement and wanting the coach fired anyway.

 

[Cribby]

IDC about JUST this year or OTHER teams. I care about the guy who coaches OUR TEAM.

And as much as YOU, or anyone who wants to always come up with some excuse to defend Mario, facts are the facts and are all that matter.

What are the facts?

1. Mario has 6 losses as a double digit fave in 3.5 years at UM. More than any other HC in FBS during that pan. In year 3 and 4, when he has already instilled his "culture" and had his players, he has 3 of those 6. So nothing has changed regardless.

2. Mario has 10 losses as a favorite while HC at UM. 4 of those 10 have come in year 3 and 4. He has a total of 15 losses as a fave between OU and UM.

3. Mario has 9 straight years between OU and UM where he has lost at least 1 game as a double digit favorite. No other HC in FBS has accomplished that glorious feat during that span.

The point is a simple one. The facts show he does less with more versus ANY other HC in FBS. The facts show we are at a massive disadvantage versus opponents who have a schematic/X's and O's advantage against us.

I get it, you don't like facts and are a Mario defender. But, there is zero denying what Mario is and isn't as a HC.

As far as better overall resume, as of this moment we have a great win over 1 P4 team and 1 G5 team. FSU and UF are cheeks. Yes, great for us fans since they are our rivals, but those wins mean nothing except to us. We are a top 10 team. Not sure we have the best resume as you seem to be implying.

Im not even a Mario hater I’m just a Mario stator. People in here defending him like he doesn’t have flaws all over the place is hilarious to me . They’ll find one game where another coach lost as a big favorite then leave off Mario has far more lol. Like it’s apples to apples , it’s more like six crates of apples to a small bag of apples.

I get aggravated at both sides of the Mario pendulum because I’m normally in the middle. But I will say the mopes do shut up when things are good but right when Mario pulls a Mario the slurpers go into full excuse mode . The same excuses they’ve been using for four years . Yes Mario has done a better job than our recent head coaches but let’s not act like he hasn’t been afforded far more financial backing than our last few coaches combined. Which is the key to the game. The financial backing has allotted him the right to keep messing up hires then just making them go away. He’s able to throw money at his mistakes.