If a person says “I’m jumping out this window flapping my arms and will fly”. I’ll be like “ nah, you’re delusional“. But if people want to live in delusion that’s fine. I just try to live in reality to the best of my abilities.
Been saying this forever u will not convince some of these fans. We are stacked bruh.
What's on paper goes on the field lol
Too many holes cost u meaningless games. I'm sure UNC fans feel the same FSU UF the list goes on. ACC is a toss up when u recruit the way we have and have that many holes. And when the HC says we need talent the man has seen talent.
Yea but u getting the rest 13 could be 25 when the cream of the crop is more accurate. The top contenders get the best and everyone else gets the scraps. Look at UF they getting a top 10 class possibly but it's a fools class the ones we used to get. Nothing top heavy nothing eye opening that makes opposing teams say "ok those guys are a threat on the trail" 4-5 star attatched to your name really doesn't mean anything if your not getting the sure fire one. It's all about evals. And so far 4-5 teams are doing it right based off last cycle. TAMU Bama OSU Clemson and OSU that's it. Oregon was doing it right and we took their guy.
I mean I don’t think it’s to that degree but I understand what you’re trying to say lol We have what I think will be an elite D & an elite QB. I don’t think we can win the national title but I think we can beat anyone on OUR schedule.
I'm not sure what you mean in the first sentence. After that, it seems like you're arguing that only 5 teams get talent that's worth anything and that the difference between what everyone else gets doesn't mean much. I agree those 5 generally recruit best, but I don't see why talent can't be evaluated realistically on a scale where there is a gradual increase/decrease in ability just like the ranking numbers say. Surely it's not an all or nothing. As you say, it's "all about evals" which means that among those 3 and 4 stars there are some really good players that aren't snatched up by A&M, Clemson, Georgia, etc. Utah's success has to show some real recruit evaluations. We have 8 3-stars committed right now. Does that worry you about the class? When I look through the list of who they are, I remember the good things I've read here about their potential, but aren't fans everywhere doing the same?
You already knew the answer. I bolded it for you.
Sabans 1st championship was full of studs already on the team--- recruited by Shula.
People said that when Manny lost to Duke and FIU.
Every lose is tough to take.
Those teams get the talent that get them in the playoffs. I mean that's how it's been. Bama isn't just developing guys they are getting guys that are monsters that know how to play football. Some don't pan out but they stack so much the cream of the crop rises. Same goes with those other schools. Miami getting a James Williams (1 player) isn't going to some how win u a game against those types of teams. When we used to get a high rated player I used to see if the upper echelon really wanted the kid. If they didn't it's a red flag imo. I want the guys they want and that's what we are doing now. I want the popo's at lb that bama had on the top of their board. 4 stars that transfer out most of the time isn't hard to predict when u see who's really after them. The writing most of the time is on the wall with the way they are recruited.
I have no real diagreement here. If you have a composite 13 talent ranking and the number is accurate, you can certainly lose to a team or two with #22 talent and it shouldn't be some big surprise. I think what's become the traditional "no business beating us" rant around here is that a Miami with #10-15 talent shouldn't be dropping games to #35 or #42 on any regular basis and it seems like we've been doing just that for 15 years including that 48-0 whipping by Virginia in '07. Clearly the teams you mentioned are stacking incredible skill and depth that make them ridiculously hard to beat, I'm just saying that UM's guys, no matter how imperfect the roster, shouldn't really be an equivalent to a #30 squad. The ranking difference between those level of players should mean something.
My concern would be that the recruiting would go to the crapper. I mean even the success we are having in recruiting is national. Still struggling with the locals, as I think they are in wait and see mode.
the first Butch year, we had less true freshman, but it was still stacked with top 5 talent... but we finished (I believe) with 3 losses playing in a conference even weaker than the coastal--' the big east.
I don't think you're right.
No offense but that’s flawed logic. How could any WR or LB not look at our depth chart and not want in? And there have been a plethora of other times where other positions were in terrible shape and all we pulled were plan C/D guys.I don't think you're right.
Kids will know our best talent is young, that we have a great staff, and that there's big wide openings <--- I want to do a spoiler for this but don't want to get in trouble
