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JHallCanes said:
Do we think this WR room is better than 2024?

I think it is (or it’s at least debatable)

If so, best WR room since ____ ?

You got about 20 years of mediocrity before that with a few positive blips
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Room as a group is better. Maybe a push with the starters but I have a good feeling 2026 will be better just due to the quality of the depth. Talented group.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
We know Dawson can and will promote it.

We know Mario will allow it.

I’ll never say this will be 2024 until I see it on the field, but in terms of that explosiveness in the passing game, I think we can approach it. Here’s why:

Cam Ward in 2024 put up the best season any of us have ever seen. He averaged 9.4 yards per attempt that year. Good for #3 in the country. Who was #5? Darian Mensah at Tulane. 9.2 yards per attempt.

Now, at Duke in 2025, that number drops to 7.7 per attempt, good for 38th. But his completion percentage was virtually the same. 65.9% at Duke compared to 65.1% at Tulane. So what’s that tell you? Duke isn’t having him push the ball as much. And that tracks, because in 2024 under this Duke staff, Malik Murphy was 88th in the country in YPA. Johnathan Brewer is the OC there, you should know him. He was here with Lashlee. He’s a Lashlee disciple. Tempo, short passing attack.

So back to Mensah here. We know he can push it. We know Dawson can as well. What about the weapons?

Malachi Toney is an alien. Nuff said. He’s going to be one of the very best players in America, regardless of position. But look at the rest.

Barkate averaged 15.3 a catch last year at Duke, on 74 catches. Really, really good. Wanna know how many receivers on our team had that number this year? One. Tony Johnson, and he caught 7 balls. Even on the 2024 team, that’s a better number than Horton and George. Only Restrepo and Arroyo were better.

Enter Vandrevius Jacobs. Averaged 17.1 a catch last year on 32 catches. VERY explosive production. That number would have led our team in 2024, by the way.

Enter Cam Vaughn. Averaged 15.4 a catch last year, good for 10th in the Big 12. Again, a very good number.

That’s 3 kids who averaged at least 15 yards a catch, oh plus that Malachi Toney guy, who is pretty good.

Josh Moore. Upshaw. You HAVE to think Lofton fully healthy is a **** of a lot more explosive than Bauman. No, he won’t be Arroyo, but he can make plays down the field.

All orchestrated by a kid who has demonstrated he can get over 9 yards a throw, now in Year 3 starting in the most QB friendly offense he’s ever played in.

The question mark is the OL. No, it’s not likely Mensah is going to be able to sit in the pocket and do Wordle like Cam and Beck did. But if there’s literally anything I trust this staff to do, it’s protect the QB. Even in 2023 when TVD was broken, physically and his brain, he had all day to throw. I expect Mensah will be way better protected than he was at Duke or Tulane.

It is scary hours for everyone we play this year. We can come at you with multiple excellent backs, and we have a kid with absurd arm talent throwing to Baby Jesus and the Vertical Apostles. I’m downright aroused at the thought of what this offense can do in the air on explosives this season. I’m not saying it’s going to the Cam experience, because that’s not fair to expect. But I really think it can be **** close. A pinpoint downfield passer with an electric arm behind a good OL throwing to 4+ receivers who have demonstrated they can get over 15 a pop at the big boy level.

Wheels all the way the **** up, boys and girls. The circus is back in town.
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#5 was 9.2 ypa vs #38 was 7.7 ypa...what a fine line in the rankings 😬

Fletcher + Toney + Barkate + Miami OL

Just think, D holds up and Miami's O scores just 14 more points per game...just 10 more points per game...just 7 more points per game...what could be...

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OrangeBowlMagic said:
We know Dawson can and will promote it.

We know Mario will allow it.

I’ll never say this will be 2024 until I see it on the field, but in terms of that explosiveness in the passing game, I think we can approach it. Here’s why:

Cam Ward in 2024 put up the best season any of us have ever seen. He averaged 9.4 yards per attempt that year. Good for #3 in the country. Who was #5? Darian Mensah at Tulane. 9.2 yards per attempt.

Now, at Duke in 2025, that number drops to 7.7 per attempt, good for 38th. But his completion percentage was virtually the same. 65.9% at Duke compared to 65.1% at Tulane. So what’s that tell you? Duke isn’t having him push the ball as much. And that tracks, because in 2024 under this Duke staff, Malik Murphy was 88th in the country in YPA. Johnathan Brewer is the OC there, you should know him. He was here with Lashlee. He’s a Lashlee disciple. Tempo, short passing attack.

So back to Mensah here. We know he can push it. We know Dawson can as well. What about the weapons?

Malachi Toney is an alien. Nuff said. He’s going to be one of the very best players in America, regardless of position. But look at the rest.

Barkate averaged 15.3 a catch last year at Duke, on 74 catches. Really, really good. Wanna know how many receivers on our team had that number this year? One. Tony Johnson, and he caught 7 balls. Even on the 2024 team, that’s a better number than Horton and George. Only Restrepo and Arroyo were better.

Enter Vandrevius Jacobs. Averaged 17.1 a catch last year on 32 catches. VERY explosive production. That number would have led our team in 2024, by the way.

Enter Cam Vaughn. Averaged 15.4 a catch last year, good for 10th in the Big 12. Again, a very good number.

That’s 3 kids who averaged at least 15 yards a catch, oh plus that Malachi Toney guy, who is pretty good.

Josh Moore. Upshaw. You HAVE to think Lofton fully healthy is a **** of a lot more explosive than Bauman. No, he won’t be Arroyo, but he can make plays down the field.

All orchestrated by a kid who has demonstrated he can get over 9 yards a throw, now in Year 3 starting in the most QB friendly offense he’s ever played in.

The question mark is the OL. No, it’s not likely Mensah is going to be able to sit in the pocket and do Wordle like Cam and Beck did. But if there’s literally anything I trust this staff to do, it’s protect the QB. Even in 2023 when TVD was broken, physically and his brain, he had all day to throw. I expect Mensah will be way better protected than he was at Duke or Tulane.

It is scary hours for everyone we play this year. We can come at you with multiple excellent backs, and we have a kid with absurd arm talent throwing to Baby Jesus and the Vertical Apostles. I’m downright aroused at the thought of what this offense can do in the air on explosives this season. I’m not saying it’s going to the Cam experience, because that’s not fair to expect. But I really think it can be **** close. A pinpoint downfield passer with an electric arm behind a good OL throwing to 4+ receivers who have demonstrated they can get over 15 a pop at the big boy level.

Wheels all the way the **** up, boys and girls. The circus is back in town.
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“Baby Jesus and the Vertical Apostles”

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

Man, TM that
 
JHallCanes said:
Do we think this WR room is better than 2024?

I think it is (or it’s at least debatable)

If so, best WR room since ____ ?

You got about 20 years of mediocrity before that with a few positive blips
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2017 had AR, Berrios, and Cager. That was a solid group. AR was hurt though, which I think impacted the effectiveness of the passing game.
 
TriStarCane said:
The ceiling on this offense for me comes down to 3 things

Can we block at least at a top 10 level. I say yes

Can we score TD in the red zone

Can we diversify the run and screen game with PERSONNEL to add complexity and more chunk runs

We have the horses. This is, for my money, the best offense in America now. We’ve got to get more explosive and cash in inside the 20
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I held out a bit of hope that we would clear out a side and run a wheel route with an RB on that last drive- hopefully he adds some screen looks with our collection of talent at RB- and maybe a bit too with a TE if one steps up.
 
the OL being an unknown is always scary but it should give piece of mind that the OL doesn’t have to be nearly as good this year

They stacked the box against Beck. They can’t do that with Toney, Barkate, Jacobs, Vaughn, 4 backs that we’ll most certainly use heavy in the pass game, and a QB who is good at extending plays and one of the biggest deep play QBs in college football
 
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BeastMode said:
OL is the only question mark now. Mario will see how spring looks and go buy an OL if he has to over the summer. Grad transfer or from somewhere.
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Agree. Love our depth overall at every other position. I mean TE isn't ideal but I think it suffices especially if the two TE from this year's freshman class are hits.
 
We will be better than last year but ultra explosive i dont see. That only happens when your 2 outside wrs can both stretch the field and win at the 3rd level consistently. We lack the seam threat te too that adds the element of holding safties and attracting attention from backers. I dont see the overall foot speed in the wr core to be next level bombs away. I like Vaughn. Dont see all the hype watching tape of Jacobs. Cooper is a yac and underneath monster. Moore will have to take another step. He has the physical tools that would notch up this group.
 
HardCane said:
We will be better than last year but ultra explosive i dont see. That only happens when your 2 outside wrs can both stretch the field and win at the 3rd level consistently. We lack the seam threat te too that adds the element of holding safties and attracting attention from backers. I dont see the overall foot speed in the wr core to be next level bombs away. I like Vaughn. Dont see all the hype watching tape of Jacobs. Cooper is a yac and underneath monster. Moore will have to take another step. He has the physical tools that would notch up this group.
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Would you consider our 2024 offense explosive?
 
It's going to be a luxury to have a guy who can also make plays with his legs. Beck was better than given credit for, and obviously made some massive plays on the ground in the playoffs, but he wasn't exactly a threat to do it, something the defense had to actually think about.
 
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