ESPN's Miami Spring Wrap

[Bigtip]

Taking a step back is not even an option for this regime at this point. So let me ask you this for folks who say we take a step back...What the heck do you think is going to happen the year after next when basically Duke, Chick, Denzel, Flowers, Felaciano, maybe Howard, and Pierre are all gone? The DT rotation still wont be that great. We will lose our best LB and DE. And we lose our two best lineman. So basically we are conceding the next 2 years???

I say we go 10-4 this year with losses to UL (too early in the season to expect Olsen or Kaaya to win this one), FSUx2 (will be close but not ready yet), and one random team. (Either NEB or Vtech) I say we win the rest including the bowl game. Contrary to what most think here we do have alot of talent on this roster. Once we are at full strength in August..we will really see whats what. Cant judge this team off that Spring game BS.

And lets make this clear..Al Golden cannot afford to go 7-5 this year and then turnaround the next year and go 7-5/8-4 again.

It's a depressing thought, but welcome to reality.

Our starting QB will have not played one down of college football before this season. NOT ONE DOWN. True freshman QBs are typically horrific, so don't count on Kaaya to be the savior. And our redshirt freshman has shown absolutely nothing. Olsen will need to make a 180 degree change in order to be the QB we need to have a 10-win season.

If we had a dominant defense that we could rely on for the first half of the season then I would have a different view. But our defense needs to improve dramatically to even reach mediocrity.

A bad defense and an inexperienced QB is an awful combination.

this guy gets it. this year will likely be a dumpster fire that leads to F.A.G. getting fired

 

[Jassid82]

Taking a step back is not even an option for this regime at this point. So let me ask you this for folks who say we take a step back...What the heck do you think is going to happen the year after next when basically Duke, Chick, Denzel, Flowers, Felaciano, maybe Howard, and Pierre are all gone? The DT rotation still wont be that great. We will lose our best LB and DE. And we lose our two best lineman. So basically we are conceding the next 2 years???

I say we go 10-4 this year with losses to UL (too early in the season to expect Olsen or Kaaya to win this one), FSUx2 (will be close but not ready yet), and one random team. (Either NEB or Vtech) I say we win the rest including the bowl game. Contrary to what most think here we do have alot of talent on this roster. Once we are at full strength in August..we will really see whats what. Cant judge this team off that Spring game BS.

And lets make this clear..Al Golden cannot afford to go 7-5 this year and then turnaround the next year and go 7-5/8-4 again.

this might be the worst argument that I've ever seen on here outside of irg.

you are basically saying that F.A.G. wont go 7-5 cus he "cant afford" to? LOLOLOLOL

he should be fired this year after going 7-5. that will be teh best thing for the program

First off, that wasnt my main argument. But selective reading must be a popular thing for you. I just dont understand how in April you can already concede the season as being a complete failure. Im assuming you went to the Spring game since you know so much. And if you didnt, then I apologize for even responding to you at all because you know even less.

This is not a 7-5 team. This is a team that has the talent to win the Coastal. Our main core talent base are So and Jrs. We have good Senior leadership. We just have an unproven QB. Is he Jamais or Manziel? No. But he doesnt have to be. Just be steady enough and dont make dumb mistakes. The defense is lacking at DT. But I love our back 7.

Like I said, lets see whats what in August.

 

[Bigtip]

Taking a step back is not even an option for this regime at this point. So let me ask you this for folks who say we take a step back...What the heck do you think is going to happen the year after next when basically Duke, Chick, Denzel, Flowers, Felaciano, maybe Howard, and Pierre are all gone? The DT rotation still wont be that great. We will lose our best LB and DE. And we lose our two best lineman. So basically we are conceding the next 2 years???

I say we go 10-4 this year with losses to UL (too early in the season to expect Olsen or Kaaya to win this one), FSUx2 (will be close but not ready yet), and one random team. (Either NEB or Vtech) I say we win the rest including the bowl game. Contrary to what most think here we do have alot of talent on this roster. Once we are at full strength in August..we will really see whats what. Cant judge this team off that Spring game BS.

And lets make this clear..Al Golden cannot afford to go 7-5 this year and then turnaround the next year and go 7-5/8-4 again.

this might be the worst argument that I've ever seen on here outside of irg.

you are basically saying that F.A.G. wont go 7-5 cus he "cant afford" to? LOLOLOLOL

he should be fired this year after going 7-5. that will be teh best thing for the program

First off, that wasnt my main argument. But selective reading must be a popular thing for you. I just dont understand how in April you can already concede the season as being a complete failure. Im assuming you went to the Spring game since you know so much. And if you didnt, then I apologize for even responding to you at all because you know even less.

This is not a 7-5 team. This is a team that has the talent to win the Coastal. Our main core talent base are So and Jrs. We have good Senior leadership. We just have an unproven QB. Is he Jamais or Manziel? No. But he doesnt have to be. Just be steady enough and dont make dumb mistakes. The defense is lacking at DT. But I love our back 7.

Like I said, lets see whats what in August.

thats essentially all you said:

"Taking a step back is not even an option for this regime at this point"

"Al Golden cannot afford to go 7-5 this year and then turnaround the next year and go 7-5/8-4 again"

you gave no reason to believe otherwise. listed that a bunch of players would be gone after this year and simply asserted that F.A.G. cant afford to lose (as if that matters)

your comparison of this team to FSU and TAMU is really cute but there is at least one huge difference:

our coaches SUCK. if you dont know that now, you will by mid season

 

[dk72]

Taking a step back is not even an option for this regime at this point. So let me ask you this for folks who say we take a step back...What the heck do you think is going to happen the year after next when basically Duke, Chick, Denzel, Flowers, Felaciano, maybe Howard, and Pierre are all gone? The DT rotation still wont be that great. We will lose our best LB and DE. And we lose our two best lineman. So basically we are conceding the next 2 years???

I say we go 10-4 this year with losses to UL (too early in the season to expect Olsen or Kaaya to win this one), FSUx2 (will be close but not ready yet), and one random team. (Either NEB or Vtech) I say we win the rest including the bowl game. Contrary to what most think here we do have alot of talent on this roster. Once we are at full strength in August..we will really see whats what. Cant judge this team off that Spring game BS.

And lets make this clear..Al Golden cannot afford to go 7-5 this year and then turnaround the next year and go 7-5/8-4 again.

this might be the worst argument that I've ever seen on here outside of irg.

you are basically saying that F.A.G. wont go 7-5 cus he "cant afford" to? LOLOLOLOL

he should be fired this year after going 7-5. that will be teh best thing for the program

First off, that wasnt my main argument. But selective reading must be a popular thing for you. I just dont understand how in April you can already concede the season as being a complete failure. Im assuming you went to the Spring game since you know so much. And if you didnt, then I apologize for even responding to you at all because you know even less.

This is not a 7-5 team. This is a team that has the talent to win the Coastal. Our main core talent base are So and Jrs. We have good Senior leadership. We just have an unproven QB. Is he Jamais or Manziel? No. But he doesnt have to be. Just be steady enough and dont make dumb mistakes. The defense is lacking at DT. But I love our back 7.

Like I said, lets see whats what in August.

Geez, what are you thinking trying to be reasonable and balanced. Just act childish and refer to Golden as "F.A.G." and say that improvements in personnel on the defensive side of the ball are irrelevant and we just suck.

 

[Rellyrell]

I can't see us taking a step back. I see us winning 10 games this year based upon the trend of increasing our win total on a yearly basis during Al's tenure. Also, we are extremely more talented w/ more discipline this year as opposed to the last several years. I think we finally get to see the combination of talent and discipline on the field for the first time in a decade.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

@Virginia Tech Loss
- This is the game I'm most confused about, have no idea whcih direction to go. It's after a bye so that SHOULD help us but we saw what Luoisville did, but that was against Teddy. I'll go out on a limb and say we Win, base don the fact that our defense will be stronger and they didn't have a QB better then Logan Thomas lats year. (Yes, I realize he torched us every year, remember every QB looked good vs. us, so I don't take that into account)

 

[Bigtip]

I can't see us taking a step back. I see us winning 10 games this year based upon the trend of increasing our win total on a yearly basis during Al's tenure. Also, we are extremely more talented w/ more discipline this year as opposed to the last several years. I think we finally get to see the combination of talent and discipline on the field for the first time in a decade.

LOL

Randy did the same thing with a harder schedule and actually played defense and we saw what happened in year 4.

F.A.G. has been completely bailed out by explosive offense and poor schedule. his defense is pathetic and will continue to suck this year and barring a miracle where our QB is somehow a world beater, the offense is going to struggle

 

[bathtubgin]

no way we take a step back

you my friend are in for a long ride.....this team has 7-5 written all over it

How do you figure? we pretty much have the same team that went 9-4 by the way people act like we went 3-8 or something. thats better defensively talent wise. more weapons in the offense then last year. a healthy team thus far and if our QB cant throw better then a 57% completion rate that stephen Morris put up last year then i will def agree with you. a 65% completion rate should be a 10 win season IMO

Miami will take a step back this year. The Hurricanes go into the season with question marks at quarterback and continued questions on defense. Couple that with a difficult schedule -- featuring perhaps the most difficult crossover games in the ACC against Florida State, Louisville – and it will be tough for the Canes to match their nine-win total from last season.

I really dont think we can take a step back from what we saw last year. we have a healthier and hungrier team then last year. we were trying to find an identity last year and this year i think we know what we want.

you live in a fantasy world. we will take a step back this year, and thats scary considering we were AWFUL down the stretch last year.

the defense is completely broken and exposed. once they start giving up points in bunches and the pressure to score rides on teh back of a FR QB with no experience, it will get ugly

This is not the same team as last year. you people dont get it. all you think about is last year. this is a new team. we are way better this year. we are not returning garbage. if we are living off last year. then how is UNC who went 7-6 last year. yes freaking 7-6 ranked #15 in the pre-season top 25. you guys are not even looking at the whole picture. Our Qb situation is not as bad as you think it is. calm down dammit

 

[Arehel]

@Virginia Tech Loss
- This is the game I'm most confused about, have no idea whcih direction to go. It's after a bye so that SHOULD help us but we saw what Luoisville did, but that was against Teddy. I'll go out on a limb and say we Win, base don the fact that our defense will be stronger and they didn't have a QB better then Logan Thomas lats year. (Yes, I realize he torched us every year, remember every QB looked good vs. us, so I don't take that into account)

See how confused I am! But actually we probabaly lose.

 

[westcoastcanes]

You guys who cannot see how this team quickly turns into a 7 win team need only consider three very possible, perhaps probable scenarios.

1) Olsen may be the real deal in a couple years, but he is going to be bad this year. He is going to neutralize an incredible stable of playmakers because frankly, he is some combination of over rated and under prepared. Olsen will single handedly lose us multiple games. He has looked terrible with the exception of a couple small window throws in practice settings.

2) The savior Duke seems to have tricked everyone into thinking that he can string together several consecutive healthy games. Hopefully he can do the same for NFL GM's come draft day next May, but newsflash, 300+ lb Dlineman will still break him if they fall on him, and he will still get concussions throwing his head into blocks, 10 pounds of muscle or not. The writing is on the wall with him, he needs to be a limited touch playmaker, but he can't here because we failed to get another RB in his class, we missed on Collins, and we missed on Cook and Michel. Yearby is tiny and is coming off an injury also, so don't assume much there. Duke will be the workhorse, and he will be hurt for stretches this year. Duke needs someone to at the very least split the carries or you can set your over/under for him at about 1000 yards and 8 games again this season for you betting men.

3) We are relying on DT's that have never taken a D1 snap. I don't care how little sunshine Wyche has, or how hot the candy paint is on the car he is pushing around, he has no experience against anything remotely close to a Florida State OL. Same goes for Hurtelou. If Wyche and Hurtelou do not come in and dominate, we are going to get destroyed on defense again, regardless of young guys getting older, and slow safeties getting faster. Just like Olsen will make everyone else on offense look worse, poor DT play will make everyone else on D look worse. LB depth won't matter if they are getting blocked because we can't two gap with two DT's that are physically shocked and inexperienced in the scheme, just like our improved DB's will not make plays if our pass rush gets double teamed.

 

[bathtubgin]

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[CanesFan93]

I may hate our coaches but I have no doubt that we'll improve.

Hard schedule? Lol.

Olsen/Kaaya should at least be able to put up 2300-2800 yards + 15-22 TD's with our receivers.

UNC lost their best players including the guy that destroyed our defense, Louisville losing Teddy is like us losing Duke plus their defense shouldn't be able to compensate the losses of their starting safety/best pass rusher/DT/LB, VT with an anemic offense and GT with no defense don't worry me. Besides FSU and Nebraska, I don't see a definite or for sure loss.

 

[dk72]

You guys who cannot see how this team quickly turns into a 7 win team need only consider three very possible, perhaps probable scenarios.

1) Olsen may be the real deal in a couple years, but he is going to be bad this year. He is going to neutralize an incredible stable of playmakers because frankly, he is some combination of over rated and under prepared. Olsen will single handedly lose us multiple games. He has looked terrible with the exception of a couple small window throws in practice settings.

2) The savior Duke seems to have tricked everyone into thinking that he can string together several consecutive healthy games. Hopefully he can do the same for NFL GM's come draft day next May, but newsflash, 300+ lb Dlineman will still break him if they fall on him, and he will still get concussions throwing his head into blocks, 10 pounds of muscle or not. The writing is on the wall with him, he needs to be a limited touch playmaker, but he can't here because we failed to get another RB in his class, we missed on Collins, and we missed on Cook and Michel. Yearby is tiny and is coming off an injury also, so don't assume much there. Duke will be the workhorse, and he will be hurt for stretches this year. Duke needs someone to at the very least split the carries or you can set your over/under for him at about 1000 yards and 8 games again this season for you betting men.

3) We are relying on DT's that have never taken a D1 snap. I don't care how little sunshine Wyche has, or how hot the candy paint is on the car he is pushing around, he has no experience against anything remotely close to a Florida State OL. Same goes for Hurtelou. If Wyche and Hurtelou do not come in and dominate, we are going to get destroyed on defense again, regardless of young guys getting older, and slow safeties getting faster. Just like Olsen will make everyone else on offense look worse, poor DT play will make everyone else on D look worse. LB depth won't matter if they are getting blocked because we can't two gap with two DT's that are physically shocked and inexperienced in the scheme, just like our improved DB's will not make plays if our pass rush gets double teamed.

Some good points, but it ignores that those aren't new issues:

1) Olsen definitely has some growing up to do, but Morris was far from a star QB for us, so while a problem, it may not be as big a problem as you pose.

2) This is not a negative change from last year. The situation was the same last year, and in fact, we did only have him for 8 games. So as far as the RB situation, what needs to be considered is how is it overall this year compared to last. Let's see, we have Duke back, plus we have Edwards with more experience, Tucker who shows some promise as a change of pace, and Yearby can contribute. So the Duke situation is the same, the back up situation is better than last year. Overall at least a small positive.

3) Again, no one is saying our DT situation is not a problem, but I don't see it as worse than last year. We have Pierre still. Porter did little-to-nothing last year. Wyche and Heurtelou should at least be equivalent to Porter. We also have Moore and Hamilton with some more experience, and can at least provide a little better depth than we had before. Moten may be able to come in and give the other DTs a breather while injecting some agility into the DT position at least a couple plays/game. So our DT situation sucks, but is likely better, or at least not worse, than last year.

Meanwhile, our LB and Safety situation are both big areas of improvement.

 

[Cane1996]

no way we take a step back

you my friend are in for a long ride.....this team has 7-5 written all over it

How do you figure? we pretty much have the same team that went 9-4 by the way people act like we went 3-8 or something. thats better defensively talent wise. more weapons in the offense then last year. a healthy team thus far and if our QB cant throw better then a 57% completion rate that stephen Morris put up last year then i will def agree with you. a 65% completion rate should be a 10 win season IMO

Miami will take a step back this year. The Hurricanes go into the season with question marks at quarterback and continued questions on defense. Couple that with a difficult schedule -- featuring perhaps the most difficult crossover games in the ACC against Florida State, Louisville – and it will be tough for the Canes to match their nine-win total from last season.

I really dont think we can take a step back from what we saw last year. we have a healthier and hungrier team then last year. we were trying to find an identity last year and this year i think we know what we want.

you live in a fantasy world. we will take a step back this year, and thats scary considering we were AWFUL down the stretch last year.

the defense is completely broken and exposed. once they start giving up points in bunches and the pressure to score rides on teh back of a FR QB with no experience, it will get ugly

This is not the same team as last year. you people dont get it. all you think about is last year. this is a new team. we are way better this year. we are not returning garbage. if we are living off last year. then how is UNC who went 7-6 last year. yes freaking 7-6 ranked #15 in the pre-season top 25. you guys are not even looking at the whole picture. Our Qb situation is not as bad as you think it is. calm down dammit

LMAO

 

[bobbydigius]

You guys who cannot see how this team quickly turns into a 7 win team need only consider three very possible, perhaps probable scenarios.

1) Olsen may be the real deal in a couple years, but he is going to be bad this year. He is going to neutralize an incredible stable of playmakers because frankly, he is some combination of over rated and under prepared. Olsen will single handedly lose us multiple games. He has looked terrible with the exception of a couple small window throws in practice settings.

2) The savior Duke seems to have tricked everyone into thinking that he can string together several consecutive healthy games. Hopefully he can do the same for NFL GM's come draft day next May, but newsflash, 300+ lb Dlineman will still break him if they fall on him, and he will still get concussions throwing his head into blocks, 10 pounds of muscle or not. The writing is on the wall with him, he needs to be a limited touch playmaker, but he can't here because we failed to get another RB in his class, we missed on Collins, and we missed on Cook and Michel. Yearby is tiny and is coming off an injury also, so don't assume much there. Duke will be the workhorse, and he will be hurt for stretches this year. Duke needs someone to at the very least split the carries or you can set your over/under for him at about 1000 yards and 8 games again this season for you betting men.

3) We are relying on DT's that have never taken a D1 snap. I don't care how little sunshine Wyche has, or how hot the candy paint is on the car he is pushing around, he has no experience against anything remotely close to a Florida State OL. Same goes for Hurtelou. If Wyche and Hurtelou do not come in and dominate, we are going to get destroyed on defense again, regardless of young guys getting older, and slow safeties getting faster. Just like Olsen will make everyone else on offense look worse, poor DT play will make everyone else on D look worse. LB depth won't matter if they are getting blocked because we can't two gap with two DT's that are physically shocked and inexperienced in the scheme, just like our improved DB's will not make plays if our pass rush gets double teamed.

Some good points, but it ignores that those aren't new issues:

1) Olsen definitely has some growing up to do, but Morris was far from a star QB for us, so while a problem, it may not be as big a problem as you pose.

2) This is not a negative change from last year. The situation was the same last year, and in fact, we did only have him for 8 games. So as far as the RB situation, what needs to be considered is how is it overall this year compared to last. Let's see, we have Duke back, plus we have Edwards with more experience, Tucker who shows some promise as a change of pace, and Yearby can contribute. So the Duke situation is the same, the back up situation is better than last year. Overall at least a small positive.

3) Again, no one is saying our DT situation is not a problem, but I don't see it as worse than last year. We have Pierre still. Porter did little-to-nothing last year. Wyche and Heurtelou should at least be equivalent to Porter. We also have Moore and Hamilton with some more experience, and can at least provide a little better depth than we had before. Moten may be able to come in and give the other DTs a breather while injecting some agility into the DT position at least a couple plays/game. So our DT situation sucks, but is likely better, or at least not worse, than last year.

Meanwhile, our LB and Safety situation are both big areas of improvement.

Exactly..........
We are stronger in most departments CB, S, LB, DE, RB, TE, WR.
We are somehwere the same at DT and OL. QB is the only question mark, but lets not forget what happened with Morris last year. Its like people are just realizing we suck at DT......

 

[CanesFan93]

You guys who cannot see how this team quickly turns into a 7 win team need only consider three very possible, perhaps probable scenarios.

1) Olsen may be the real deal in a couple years, but he is going to be bad this year. He is going to neutralize an incredible stable of playmakers because frankly, he is some combination of over rated and under prepared. Olsen will single handedly lose us multiple games. He has looked terrible with the exception of a couple small window throws in practice settings.

2) The savior Duke seems to have tricked everyone into thinking that he can string together several consecutive healthy games. Hopefully he can do the same for NFL GM's come draft day next May, but newsflash, 300+ lb Dlineman will still break him if they fall on him, and he will still get concussions throwing his head into blocks, 10 pounds of muscle or not. The writing is on the wall with him, he needs to be a limited touch playmaker, but he can't here because we failed to get another RB in his class, we missed on Collins, and we missed on Cook and Michel. Yearby is tiny and is coming off an injury also, so don't assume much there. Duke will be the workhorse, and he will be hurt for stretches this year. Duke needs someone to at the very least split the carries or you can set your over/under for him at about 1000 yards and 8 games again this season for you betting men.

3) We are relying on DT's that have never taken a D1 snap. I don't care how little sunshine Wyche has, or how hot the candy paint is on the car he is pushing around, he has no experience against anything remotely close to a Florida State OL. Same goes for Hurtelou. If Wyche and Hurtelou do not come in and dominate, we are going to get destroyed on defense again, regardless of young guys getting older, and slow safeties getting faster. Just like Olsen will make everyone else on offense look worse, poor DT play will make everyone else on D look worse. LB depth won't matter if they are getting blocked because we can't two gap with two DT's that are physically shocked and inexperienced in the scheme, just like our improved DB's will not make plays if our pass rush gets double teamed.

Wow, I thought I was pessimistic. Who's to say Olsen won't improve in 4-5 months or Kaaya doesn't beat him out? I do agree that Olsen is a bit over rated though.

Duke landed in a odd position against FSU. Pretty sure 75% of players would have gotten injured if that had happened. You're basically saying players can't come back from injury which is completely false. Duke/Yearby/Gus should at least give us 2,300 yards rushing.

We don't face an FSU OL well except for FSU's so I don't know why you would bring that OL up. Not to mention their offensive line is composed of nothing but seniors. Adding talented players at DT doesn't hurt especially since we didn't lose anyone of importance there. They should at least be above average compared to last year's embarrassment.

 

[TrueCane100]

Nothing short of amazing tha we won 9 games last year .... Lose the qb step back this year ... Hopefully we develop one this year

 

[Jfizz1021]

Taking a step back is not even an option for this regime at this point. So let me ask you this for folks who say we take a step back...What the heck do you think is going to happen the year after next when basically Duke, Chick, Denzel, Flowers, Felaciano, maybe Howard, and Pierre are all gone? The DT rotation still wont be that great. We will lose our best LB and DE. And we lose our two best lineman. So basically we are conceding the next 2 years???

I say we go 10-4 this year with losses to UL (too early in the season to expect Olsen or Kaaya to win this one), FSUx2 (will be close but not ready yet), and one random team. (Either NEB or Vtech) I say we win the rest including the bowl game. Contrary to what most think here we do have alot of talent on this roster. Once we are at full strength in August..we will really see whats what. Cant judge this team off that Spring game BS.

And lets make this clear..Al Golden cannot afford to go 7-5 this year and then turnaround the next year and go 7-5/8-4 again.

It's a depressing thought, but welcome to reality.

Our starting QB will have not played one down of college football before this season. NOT ONE DOWN. True freshman QBs are typically horrific, so don't count on Kaaya to be the savior. And our redshirt freshman has shown absolutely nothing. Olsen will need to make a 180 degree change in order to be the QB we need to have a 10-win season.

If we had a dominant defense that we could rely on for the first half of the season then I would have a different view. But our defense needs to improve dramatically to even reach mediocrity.

A bad defense and an inexperienced QB is an awful combination.

That last line sums everything up! I'm always optimistic but that's a deadly combination to overcome and the difference between a good season and a bad one.

 

[Consigliere]

LOL

Randy did the same thing with a harder schedule and actually played defense and we saw what happened in year 4.

F.A.G. has been completely bailed out by explosive offense and poor schedule. his defense is pathetic and will continue to suck this year and barring a miracle where our QB is somehow a world beater, the offense is going to struggle

Did RS recruit after 2008? Seems like things are slightly different now in this regard. Our team was ***ing cheating under RS and we still couldn't win.

Here is RS's tenure in the ACC

07: 2-6
08: 4-4
09: 5-3 (3 Year Total 11-13 or 46%)
10: 5-3
Total: 16-16 (.50%)

Here is Al's Tenure in the ACC

11: 3-5
12: 5-3
13: 5-3
Total: 13-11 (.54%)

Always amazed that people still bring up this dudes name. Let this guy die already. Why are we comparing him to Al anyway? Compare a failure to a possible failure?

As for our explosive offense, I don't recall seeing an explosive offense. I believe we scored 27 Points during ACC play last season, not exactly EXPLOSIVE.

If the offense was explosive, wouldn't Al get the credit since he is the HC?

 

[TrueCane100]

People still bring up randy the guy destroyed this program the worst coach in the history of the program ... Still rebuilding from the mess he left