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Carr is so ****, I thought he was talking about coming out the closet...yikes..
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Carr is so ****, I thought he was talking about coming out the closet...yikes..
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I haven’t been paying attention to that recently but aren’t they keeping it at 12 teams for the foreseeable future? I know the BIG wanted 24. Everyone else seemed okay with 16. Honestly, leave it at 12. I see no reason the expand anymore. It already feels like we’re playing too many games in the current CFP model
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Expansion is near. The plan to expand is unclear. For a long while, it was everyone against the B1G; ACC, XII, and SEC were in favor of a 16 playoff. The B1G commissioner stuck to his guns and caused expansion to be delayed by a year.
Now, it’s everyone against the SEC. The SEC commissioner says it would devalue the regular season and the counterargument by FOX & the B1G is that without an expansion significant enough, matchups like OU-Michigan, UM-UF, USC-ND, OSU-UT — will be few and far between because at 16; programs will be cautious to schedule p4 OOC games with the newly implemented 9 game conference format across the p4.
Conference championship games look to be on the way out however the SEC has more to lose than the other 3 conferences in this regard as it makes the most revenue from their own.
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Apparently Carr was garbage in the spring game. He lost all his best weapons.
In a shocking turn of events, there is yet another overhyped Notre Dame quarterback.
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A prime example of the difference between a game manager & an actual gifted QB.
Game managers only look good when everybody else around them is good/great.
Gifted QB's can take unknown commodities & elevate their ability.
Hey @Memnon, have you given your thoughts on Mensah yet? Would love to read it, if you have. Thanks in advance.
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https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/gabbys-list-of-transfer-qbs.203193/post-8043616
He was #1 on my Portal QB list back in December, before he even entered the Portal. Phenomenally gifted arm talent. Pure deep ball passer, with very good accuracy on the intermediate routes between the hashes.
Not as much of an improvisational off-platform thrower like Cam was, but has the ability to make plays off script & hit passes while under duress.
He's not as evasive in the pocket as Cam was in terms of eluding pass rushers, but he is a quick processor & gets rid of the ball fast. Has very good footwork in the pocket, he climbs & steps into the throw when rushers collapse the edge.
He does have the tendency to plant his feet & throw off his backfoot, but because he has a such a natural big arm, he can get away with it & still get the ball where it needs to go. That's something that he'll have to adjust more once he gets in the NFL, he doesn't really need to change it now in college.
Not super mobile, but has enough mobility to pick up yards with his feet if it's not there.
Excels with RPO reads & holding Safeties. Has A-grade field reading capabilities. Actually, I'd say along with pure arm talent, the biggest difference between Darian & Carsun Bext, is reading coverages. Hence why he doesn't turn the ball over, he can actually read the Rover & doesn't telegraph his passes while staring down the primary read.
Cam is like Pat Mahomes in his play style, while Darian is more like CJ Stroud. He's not a loose arm gunslinger, but he's not a Captain checkdown game manager either. More of a precision field striker, who attacks coverages with the Deep ball & makes large chunk play throws in the intermediate routes. Throws really nice back-shoulders & is a very good rhythmic passer on Post & Corner routes.
Barring injury, he's a no doubt surefire 1st rounder, potential Heisman & Davey O'Brien candidate. A real 1st rounder, who doesn’t have to be carried & can still play at a high level even if he's not surrounded by elite talent.
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Phenomenally gifted arm talent. Pure deep ball passer, with very good accuracy on the intermediate routes between the hashes.
Not as much of an improvisational off-platform thrower like Cam was, but has the ability to make plays off script & hit passes while under duress.
He's not as evasive in the pocket as Cam was in terms of eluding pass rushers, but he is a quick processor & gets rid of the ball fast. Has very good footwork in the pocket, he climbs & steps into the throw when rushers collapse the edge.
He does have the tendency to plant his feet & throw off his backfoot, but because he has a such a natural big arm, he can get away with it & still get the ball where it needs to go. That's something that he'll have to adjust more once he gets in the NFL, he doesn't really need to change it now in college.
Not super mobile, but has enough mobility to pick up yards with his feet if it's not there.
Excels with RPO reads & holding Safeties. Has A-grade field reading capabilities. Actually, I'd say along with pure arm talent, the biggest difference between Darian & Carsun Bext, is reading coverages. Hence why he doesn't turn the ball over, he can actually read the Rover & doesn't telegraph his passes while staring down the primary read.
Cam is like Pat Mahomes in his play style, while Darian is more like CJ Stroud. He's not a loose arm gunslinger, but he's not a Captain checkdown game manager either. More of a precision field striker, who attacks coverages with the Deep ball & makes large chunk play throws in the intermediate routes. Throws really nice back-shoulders & is a very good rhythmic passer on Post & Corner routes.
Barring injury, he's a no doubt surefire 1st rounder, potential Heisman & Davey O'Brien candidate. A real 1st rounder, who doesn’t have to be carried & can still play at a high level even if he's not surrounded by elite talent.
I truly enjoy reading your posts and learning g from your insight.
Appreciate you brother!
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https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/gabbys-list-of-transfer-qbs.203193/post-8043616
Phenomenally gifted arm talent. Pure deep ball passer, with very good accuracy on the intermediate routes between the hashes.
Not as much of an improvisational off-platform thrower like Cam was, but has the ability to make plays off script & hit passes while under duress.
He's not as evasive in the pocket as Cam was in terms of eluding pass rushers, but he is a quick processor & gets rid of the ball fast. Has very good footwork in the pocket, he climbs & steps into the throw when rushers collapse the edge.
He does have the tendency to plant his feet & throw off his backfoot, but because he has a such a natural big arm, he can get away with it & still get the ball where it needs to go. That's something that he'll have to adjust more once he gets in the NFL, he doesn't really need to change it now in college.
Not super mobile, but has enough mobility to pick up yards with his feet if it's not there.
Excels with RPO reads & holding Safeties. Has A-grade field reading capabilities. Actually, I'd say along with pure arm talent, the biggest difference between Darian & Carsun Bext, is reading coverages. Hence why he doesn't turn the ball over, he can actually read the Rover & doesn't telegraph his passes while staring down the primary read.
Cam is like Pat Mahomes in his play style, while Darian is more like CJ Stroud. He's not a loose arm gunslinger, but he's not a Captain checkdown game manager either. More of a precision field striker, who attacks coverages with the Deep ball & makes large chunk play throws in the intermediate routes. Throws really nice back-shoulders & is a very good rhythmic passer on Post & Corner routes.
Barring injury, he's a no doubt surefire 1st rounder, potential Heisman & Davey O'Brien candidate. A real 1st rounder, who doesn’t have to be carried & can still play at a high level even if he's not surrounded by elite talent.
I read the comment you had on Carr, but care to add anything to that?
Because I don’t see it with him. I agree with your post about him being a game manager type quarterback, but I’m still trying to figure out the excessive hype.
Obviously will be seeing him in November, I plan to be there, but was just wondering what your thoughts are overall.
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He's a safe game manager that doesn't take any risks & a lot of writers/sports pundits really love that in QB's. They get built up in their draft profile by playing that way & analysts correlate it to being "smart".
It's why guys like JJ McCarthy, Matt Jones, Daniel Jones, Kenny Pickett etc, get drafted in the 1st round, but end up being busts. A lot of people fail to realize that safe game manager QB play is a result of a lack of ability. Captain Checkdowns play like that because they have to, not because they want to. They don't have the arm talent to make more advanced level throws, then when they get to the league they get exposed.
The hype with Carr is mainly just due to him being a Red Frosh last year & ESPN projecting forward. They also always overrate everything associated with Notre Dame.
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A lot of guys who aren't Canes homers are talking like Mensah is closer to a top 10 NFL pick than being outside the list of top 10 College QBs
Offensive lineman Ryan Rodriguez was asked to compare Mensah to the player he's seeing. and Rodriguez compared him simultaneously to both Cam Ward and Carson Beck. Two very
different players that are not often comparable. Well, Mensah is a little bit like both, which says an awful lot. Said that Mensah has Ward's playmaking ability combined with Beck's ability to win from the pocket and his decision-making processing says an awful Now, uh very different quarterbacks. Like I said, Ward's a super playmaker, scrambler, improviser. Beck's kind of that pure guy, really good decision maker, sneaky athletic. But to say one person has the best qualities of both either tells you it's extraordinary hyperbole, or maybe there's there's some real truth to what's been said about Darien Mets so far and his fit within this offense.
And look, and as an independent analyst, someone with no rooting interest in Miami football, I have watched Darian Mensah very closely. Uh, and I think he is very, very good system fit for what they're trying to build down there at Miami. He's got arm talent. He's got strength. He can throw it. He's got lower body power. He can run. He can move. This guy's an NFL caliber player. And granted, it's March. I get it. I understand it's a transfer. Everyone loves the new transfer, but sounds like he has been as advertised so far this spring.
3 minutes, 45 seconds I don't see why anybody would rank him outside the top 10. I just want to throw that back at the I still don't understand that. That is Everybody has their own opinion, but I would love to know what that meeting was like. Like where did that go when he got separated? I just I really want to know that. But to that end, with this offense being the way that it is, Shannon Dawson's offense will help him get to the NFL, I bet he goes in the first 20 picks.
Offensive lineman Ryan Rodriguez was asked to compare Mensah to the player he's seeing. and Rodriguez compared him simultaneously to both Cam Ward and Carson Beck. Two very
different players that are not often comparable. Well, Mensah is a little bit like both, which says an awful lot. Said that Mensah has Ward's playmaking ability combined with Beck's ability to win from the pocket and his decision-making processing says an awful Now, uh very different quarterbacks. Like I said, Ward's a super playmaker, scrambler, improviser. Beck's kind of that pure guy, really good decision maker, sneaky athletic. But to say one person has the best qualities of both either tells you it's extraordinary hyperbole, or maybe there's there's some real truth to what's been said about Darien Mets so far and his fit within this offense.
And look, and as an independent analyst, someone with no rooting interest in Miami football, I have watched Darian Mensah very closely. Uh, and I think he is very, very good system fit for what they're trying to build down there at Miami. He's got arm talent. He's got strength. He can throw it. He's got lower body power. He can run. He can move. This guy's an NFL caliber player. And granted, it's March. I get it. I understand it's a transfer. Everyone loves the new transfer, but sounds like he has been as advertised so far this spring.
3 minutes, 45 seconds I don't see why anybody would rank him outside the top 10. I just want to throw that back at the I still don't understand that. That is Everybody has their own opinion, but I would love to know what that meeting was like. Like where did that go when he got separated? I just I really want to know that. But to that end, with this offense being the way that it is, Shannon Dawson's offense will help him get to the NFL, I bet he goes in the first 20 picks.
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Poll: Oregon's Dante Moore the early QB favorite for 2027 draft
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