ESPN- midseason Grades for first year head coaches

Mario has made mistakes, it’s pretty obvious. But it blows my mind how many people on here just want to ignore how much our guys mess up because that destroys the 110% corch narrative.
Players play. Coaches coach. Coaches choose who play.

Why didn't Colbie Young play at all until the very end of the UNC game? You think he could have helped in the red zone against A&M?

Players make mistakes..and they get graded for them every week. And the coaches decide (at least they should) who plays based on those grades. The coaches picked the kids that make mistakes to play

Like Dr. Henry Cloud says, Mario is ridiculously in charge. He decides scheme. He decides reps. He makes game time decisions. He gives responsibility. Accountability. He's fully and wholly responsible for the results because he has 100% authority over all decisions. Blaming players is an exercise in futility for those who are in charge. Sure he has some limits by the roster, but the portal has minimized that and there's still no excise for losing to MTSU, ZERO TDs against A&M, and the woeful red zone success against UNC and in general.

Lincoln took over a 4-8 USC team with their worst roster in 30 years. He flipped the roster and installed an advantageous scheme that his new roster could execute.

Mario could have done the same. He didn't. And that's ok. But it's why he has a D for this season so far. I still expect him to be an A hire. But he has blundered the first half of this season.
 
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Mario has made mistakes, it’s pretty obvious. But it blows my mind how many people on here just want to ignore how much our guys mess up because that destroys the 110% corch narrative.
I'm not saying it's right and am not down with people that only seem to exist so as to engage in confirmation bias but once a coach gets paid at an elite level he then owns EVERYTHING about the program- good or bad and at any moment.

When (hopefully) Mario turns this around then he'll also get an outsized share of the credit and nobody will really be looking to give players credit for maybe masking some poor coaching decisions with exceptional performances.
 
Mario has made mistakes, it’s pretty obvious. But it blows my mind how many people on here just want to ignore how much our guys mess up because that destroys the 110% corch narrative.
Same could be said for every corches tenure since Butch DAW GAWD.

If only the player made one more catch, if only the D didn't miss 3,789 tackles against Michingan State....

With that said, Big Manny KNOWS (but apparently several on CIS do not) he is untouchable until at least Y4.

Settle in as Y1-Y3 are just for righting the ship of SS Suck
 
That's a flawed analogy, too. It assumes the final benchmark for Mario or any other 1st year HC is the end of season 1.
If a reasonable benchmark for Mario is to be in the CFB playoffs by the end of year 3, then he's still building the car.
What I meant, poorly albeit, is that grading Mario at this point is not reflective of his total body of work here. It may be reflective of the six games in. Same thing you were saying above, “Incomplete.”
 
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No worries, bruh, Canes blood is thicker anything I’ve seen.
Never ceases to amaze me that people give any credence to these click bait articles. Are some the assessments accurate? Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then. I have eyes and enough intellect to make my own assessment without the aid of some doofus trying to justify his pie job.
 
I guess you can think like a progress report. This is where he stands right now.

There are still tests and the grade can definitely go up.

But the F- from MTSU is weighing heavily right now with no big A's really to balance it out. A won over A&M or a big win over UNC would have helped counter the major failure against MTSU.
Exactly. Don't lay a total egg against MTSU and he's more like a C/C+ right now. Or counter the MTSU debacle with a win over A&M or UNC and he's also at a C/C+.
 
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If you factor in recruiting (which is the single most important aspect of a coach's performance in CFB), the grade should be much higher.
 
While I’m still holding out hope that Mario will turn out to be “the guy”, I have to say that giving him a D+ is being very, very generous. D+ is a passing grade and he clearly deserves a failing grade (E) so far this season. While I think we all agree that Manny was not capable of turning things around, I’m pretty sure if he were the coach this year, we would have a 3-3 record at the worst, and likely a 4-2. record. Gotta call it like it is.
Manuela might be 4-2 right now, he may have beaten MTSU. Good for him.

He was never going to return the Canes to a consistent Top 10 team, let alone an ACC championship team. IMO the program regresses the longer he was retained. The returning talent level on the roster was meh, and any staff built by Manuela was not going to coach anyone up.

Answer these questions:

Do you think Manuela would have signed Citizen, Skinner, Cyrus Moss, or Nyjalik Kelly?
Do you think Manuela would have commits from Mauigoa, Wayne, Rashada, etc.?

Mario is a work in progress, only six games in. We all dislike the regression on offense. I get it. We all do.

We’ll see what the future holds.
 
Players play. Coaches coach. Coaches choose who play.

Why didn't Colbie Young play at all until the very end of the UNC game? You think he could have helped in the red zone against A&M?

Players make mistakes..and they get graded for them every week. And the coaches decide (at least they should) who plays based on those grades. The coaches picked the kids that make mistakes to play

Like Dr. Henry Cloud says, Mario is ridiculously in charge. He decides scheme. He decides reps. He makes game time decisions. He gives responsibility. Accountability. He's fully and wholly responsible for the results because he has 100% authority over all decisions. Blaming players is an exercise in futility for those who are in charge. Sure he has some limits by the roster, but the portal has minimized that and there's still no excise for losing to MTSU, ZERO TDs against A&M, and the woeful red zone success against UNC and in general.

Lincoln took over a 4-8 USC team with their worst roster in 30 years. He flipped the roster and installed an advantageous scheme that his new roster could execute.

Mario could have done the same. He didn't. And that's ok. But it's why he has a D for this season so far. I still expect him to be an A hire. But he has blundered the first half of this season.

I do agree with most of this. Especially that as the HC, the buck must always start and end with Mario. And I sincerely doubt there is any aspect of this program that Mario doesn't have his fingers in.

And the coaches definitely decide who plays, but they are still limited to the players on the roster. I agree the portal and new transfer rules help address needs more quickly than ever before, but a new coach still needs to assess his team to figure out where additional help is needed. Mario correctly identified that he needed help at RB, WR, OL, DL, LB, and CB. Parrish, Ladson, Young, Denis, Sagapolu, Mesidor, Jackson, Lichtenstein, Moultrie, Agude, Johnson, and Porter. Many of those guys (Parrish, Ladson, Young, Mesidor, and Jackson, especially) have had significant roles this season.

I think we can all agree he should have done more to bring in more portal help at OL, WR, and CB. And I think Mario would also say he and the staff expected more players to enter the portal in the summer months and it just never materialized. That was a mistake.

Of course, player evaluations should constantly be occurring, but it also takes some time to understand your players, learn their strengths and weaknesses, figure out growth potential, and assess their character. You get some of that in practice, but a lot of it is theoretical until the the bullets are live against outside competition.

A great example is CY. I'm not going to crucify the coaching staff for waiting until Game 5 to give a JUCO kid who many people on this board considered a borderline P5 guy when he enrolled less than 4 months ago. The player obviously needs time to learn the system (though it is up to the coaching staff to get him up to speed as quickly as possible), the coaches need to evaluate what they've got with the player, and you obviously can't bump a kid to the top of the depth chart when he's just gotten here. It takes time. That's not an excuse, that's just reality.

A bad example is coaches asking Mallory to do the things we have years of film showing he can't do. Or asking TVD, who everyone knows thrived in a certain system last season, to do things he was clearly uncomfortable with as early as the Southern Miss game. They figured it out with TVD a few games later, which is probably better than past staffs, but its valid to question why it took that long in the first place. Or the communication and personnel issues in the secondary that we just can't seem to get right.

None of that excuses the performance against MTSU, the offensive and ST performances against TAMU, the way we came out flat for the first 20 minutes and then disappeared for most of the second half until the last five minutes against UNC, the second half (and especially 4th quarter) against VT, or the red zone issues that have plagued this offense throughout the season. It also doesn't excuse this team's total lack of identity.

All of that said, I'm withholding judgment and not making any conclusions about the long-term outlook of the program until the season is over, the 2023 class is signed, and I see what happens with the coaching and personnel departures at the end of the season.
 
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