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Enos should take more responsibility for UF loss

The Franchise said:
I’d need something a little more scientific to verify your theory. How about we give it more than one game?

It’s a very similar offense to what everyone was doing cartwheels over and got McVeigh the label of genius with the Rams. Yet you think it’s the easiest offense to defend based on one game against an excellent defense with a QB and both Tackles getting their first reps.
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I never did cartwheels over it. I said that anybody that wanted to be the Rams on offense was an idiot.

Not because the offense isn’t good. If you could guarantee me we would get to that level, I’m all for it.

But it would be too difficult to try to get to run that offense in college. Give me something far less complicated, far more repeatable on a yearly basis at the college level.

The one hope I held out was that maybe Enos had learned something at Alabama, and so we weren’t going to try to be the Rams. Unfortunately that isn’t the case.
 
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The Svengali said:
I half way agree with you, and I see your point. Nothing wrong with constructive criticism.

My issue is Enos made tons of mistakes in the second half his **** self. Some of the calls and the schemes were mind boggling. For example;

Abandoning the run entirely in the 2nd half

Slow developing, Continuous Play action action calls even though the OTs were getting abused. Jarren had a nanosecond

Continuing to go under center even though the Oline was a sieve

No rhyme or reason to the WR lineup

Never spreading UF out with 4-5 wide, even though UF has a bunch of true freshman at DB in their 2 deep, and given their starting safety was out. Doing this would’ve forced those freshman to play!

Enos needed to call his own **** self out with that craziness.
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^^THIS^^

I have NO problem with his harsh critique of Jarren's performance

But his game plan and his failure to adjust to the on-field circumstances ALSO left much to be desired and greatly contributed to JW's and the offense's inability to perform optimally. Enos knew what he had on the team, its strengths and limitations....yet he did NOT adjust.

He saw what was happening on the field but acted and play called as if it wasn't happening.

Just saying, IF you expect perfection .....you should demand it 1st from yourself...so he also should have acknowledged (whether he was asked or not) his less than acceptable performance in contributing to the sacks by failing to adjust.

IF you disagree then we just simply disagree

Enos said he has high standards & expects perfection.....and I totally agree ....from the entire offense, including him.
 
The Franchise said:
How is a HC who gradually tanked a program over the course of 6 years due to his horrible leadership at all similar to an OC who has coached ONE GAME AT UM?

If you watched that game and didn’t see several plays that would have resulted in TDs with good execution then I’d ask that you watch it again. Was JT not holding that TD pass Enos’s fault? Brevin had a TD pass in his hands too. JT was wide open for a walk-in TD two or three times and we didn’t throw it to him.
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It’s the assertion that the coaches are infallible and the players just need to execute better that I object to. You could make that same argument to defend literally every ****** coach we’ve hired over the last 15 years.
 
MainLineCane said:
^^THIS^^

I have NO problem with his harsh critique of Jarren's performance

But his game plan and his failure to adjust to the on-field circumstances ALSO left much to be desired and greatly contributed to JW's and the offense's inability to perform optimally. Enos knew what he had on the team, its strengths and limitations....yet he did NOT adjust.

He saw what was happening on the field but acted and play called as if it wasn't happening.

Just saying, IF you expect perfection .....you should demand it 1st from yourself...so he also should have acknowledged (whether he was asked or not) his less than acceptable performance in contributing to the sacks by failing to adjust.

IF you disagree then we just simply disagree

Enos said he has high standards & expects perfection.....and I totally agree ....from the entire offense, including him.
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100% this.
 
mossmadness said:
I was hoping for nothing remotely complicated.

Nothing about modern college football offenses is remotely complicated. That’s why offenses are lighting up defenses in today’s game.

Simple concepts that are easy to repeat on a yearly basis but are very difficult to defend.

We did none of it. Enos is bringing us into the modern era on offense by ditching the RPO and read option apparently.
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You're doing a disservice to yourself thinking that what Oklahoma State is able to manage against Oregon State is what we should manage against a Florida defense that's one of the best in the nation.

RPO and Read Option doesn't work when the DL is wreaking havoc in the backfield in less than a second. That wasn't the mystery magic needed to beat Florida.
 
mossmadness said:
I was hoping for nothing remotely complicated.

Nothing about modern college football offenses is remotely complicated. That’s why offenses are lighting up defenses in today’s game.

Simple concepts that are easy to repeat on a yearly basis but are very difficult to defend.

We did none of it. Enos is bringing us into the modern era on offense by ditching the RPO and read option apparently.
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Draw that play out for us, genius. The ones you say Enos should have been calling.

You know, the ones you say aren’t “remotely complicated” and are a “simple concept” but that will “light up” a defense.

Do it.

I want to see that play.

Here’s another “simple concept” - you don’t know what the fūck you’re talking about, and literally just made that up out of whole cloth.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Draw that play out for us, genius. The ones you say Enos should have been calling.

You know, the ones you say aren’t “remotely complicated” and are a “simple concept” but that will “light up” a defense.

Do it.

I want to see that play.

Here’s another “simple concept” - you don’t know what the fūck you’re talking about, and literally just made that up out of whole cloth.
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Turn on the tv and you’ll find plenty of offensive systems based on simple c
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Draw that play out for us, genius. The ones you say Enos should have been calling.

You know, the ones you say aren’t “remotely complicated” and are a “simple concept” but that will “light up” a defense.

Do it.

I want to see that play.

Here’s another “simple concept” - you don’t know what the fūck you’re talking about, and literally just made that up out of whole cloth.
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Just turn on the tv on Saturday and you’ll see it.

****, watch Briles right now. Nothing they are doing is complicated. It’s simple concepts, designed to put a ton of stress on a defense.
 
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The Franchise said:
Who called Enos a stud based on that throw? You guys love killing our coaches and arguing. I’m not interested in either.
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Then what’s the point of bringing up the play?
You’re just lost here it seems.

We are arguing about *Dan Enos*. You brought up a play in defense of Enos.
There was nothing brilliant about that play as it relates to Dan Enos. It was purely on Williams making an NFL throw. That’s what was impressive about that.

So what exactly is the point of bringing up that play as a defense of Enos? That we literally could have scored on it of Thomas catches that NFL throw? And because Enos has the title of OC, that is a point for him in the, “Does Enos run a subpar system” debate?
 
mossmadness said:
Turn on the tv and you’ll find plenty of offensive systems based on simple c


Just turn on the tv on Saturday and you’ll see it.

****, watch Briles right now. Nothing they are doing is complicated. It’s simple concepts, designed to put a ton of stress on a defense.
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Ok, so you can’t even come up with one of these “simple plays” that you’re talking about.
 
mossmadness said:
Then what’s the point of bringing up the play?
You’re just lost here it seems.

We are arguing about *Dan Enos*. You brought up a play in defense of Enos.
There was nothing brilliant about that play as it relates to Dan Enos. It was purely on Williams making an NFL throw. That’s what was impressive about that.

So what exactly is the point of bringing up that play as a defense of Enos? That we literally could have scored on it of Thomas catches that NFL throw? And because Enos has the title of OC, that is a point for him in the, “Does Enos run a subpar system” debate?
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You’re right. Fire him.
 
The Franchise said:
You guys win. Fire everyone after one game. Hit the restart button so you can get a jumpstart on hating the next coach.

We have the most miserable bunch of c0cksuckers in the world for “fans.” Holy **** you guys are awful.
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You’re right. Based on Enos’ history and the one game, there’s absolutely no reason to believe we are going to be running the Arkansas offense. None. Lets just let it play out.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Ok, so you can’t even come up with one of these “simple plays” that you’re talking about.
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Nope. You got me. Congrats.

I wasn’t talking about “plays” though. I’m talking about scheme. But that’s just my loser talk. Ignore it. You win. I don’t know what the **** I’m talking about.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Ok, so you can’t even come up with one of these “simple plays” that you’re talking about.
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He’s the most miserable dude on this board. And that’s saying a lot.

I wonder why some of these guys even consider themselves fans of this program. All they want to do is burn it down at the first sign of adversity.

They dig their heels in so hard on this coach killing schtick that it becomes their identity. They’re like vultures circling around waiting for a bad play or a loss to start their flood of misery.
 
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mossmadness said:
You’re right. Based on Enos’ history and the one game, there’s absolutely no reason to believe we are going to be running the Arkansas offense. None. Lets just let it play out.
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You’re right. Fire him. Go picket in front of Hecht if you know where that’s at.
 
The Franchise said:
You’re right. Fire him.
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What was the point of bringing up the play?
The Franchise said:
He’s the most miserable dude on this board. And that’s saying a lot.

I wonder why some of these guys even consider themselves fans of this program. All they want to do is burn it down at the first sign of adversity.

They dig their heels in so hard on this coach killing schtick that it becomes their identity. They’re like vultures circling around waiting for a bad play or a loss to start their flood of misery.
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While you are hanging your hat on a single good play that somehow is evidence of Enos.

The Enos defense is funny.
All we heard was that he learned from Alabama. Was going to adjust the offense. All of us concerned that the Arkansas system wasn’t ideal for Miami we were just being miserable, because of course Enos isn’t going to run that exact offense.

Enos *literally* runs that exact offense his debut at Miami, and we still have to wait before we can make a decision about whether the offense system is what Miami should be running.

What exactly do I or others need to wait for? What data is missing?
Your entire argument seems to be that eventually the 4* and 5* players will get good. And I have no doubt that will happen, and their talent will allow us to score points.

But that’s irrelevant to the offensive system. Anybody arguing we don’t have enough of a track record to judge the Enos *system* is being being purposely blind. We know what he is going to run. That’s not a TBD mystery.
 
streetja said:
You're doing a disservice to yourself thinking that what Oklahoma State is able to manage against Oregon State is what we should manage against a Florida defense that's one of the best in the nation.

RPO and Read Option doesn't work when the DL is wreaking havoc in the backfield in less than a second. That wasn't the mystery magic needed to beat Florida.
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Huh? I’m not saying anything like that. I’m actually not judging the OSU OC or Enos based on the success of the plays they ran, as that is somewhat more talent determinative on any given Saturday.

I’m judging them based on the concepts the plays were trying to employ and what they were doing to try to stress the defense. You’re right that there is nothing you can do if the talent just wipes the floor with you, even if you have a really good scheme.

Which is why I have been careful in choosing what I’ve said about what I don’t like about Enos in this thread and every Enos thread going back to the very first one on him.
 
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