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Enos/Diaz Have to Pick Up Pace on Offense. We Play to slow

If my offense has the ball, it's significantly less likely the opposition will score and much more likely that my team will. Given a choice between having the ball on offense or letting the opposing team have it, I'll choose to be on offense.

Thus, TOP increases the odds of higher scores as the offense improves.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I beg your pardon?

Against FBS competition, Miami is 64th in YPP, 82nd in scoring, 102nd in red zone TD %, and 127th in the country in 3rd down conversion %.

Through 3 games, Miami has a ZERO PERCENT success rate in the first quarter on 3rd/4th down. ZERO. Haven't run a SINGLE successful 3rd down play in 3 games in the 1st quarter.

But yeah, the offense has been fantastic. No issues lol
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Again, your stats are BS.

You’re cherry picking small sample sizes and turning them into trends that take many more games to be accurate.

They’re not.
 
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KrazyCane said:
If the offense would’ve scored more TDs during the multiple opportunities they had to finish drives then it wouldn’t have mattered what the defense did on that play bc we would’ve still had the lead regardless
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Man, I'm with you there. It should have NEVER come down to that 4th and 17. That being said, we had the lead with a 4th and 17 for the win. If you tell me that before the game, I take it 10 times out of 10.
 
I wouldn't mind us picking up the pace at times but I think the main issue is youth right now. Hopefully we see it with more experience for Jarren and the OL.
 
ThomasM said:
Man, I'm with you there. It should have NEVER come down to that 4th and 17. That being said, we had the lead with a 4th and 17 for the win. If you tell me that before the game, I take it 10 times out of 10.
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He’s ignoring the blocked PAT, the missed chip shot and dropped 2 pt conversion that make the 4th and 17 irrelevant.

The offense didn’t cost us that game.
 
Let's work on consistency first before we start trying to be the new Oregon. Going 3 and out really fast kills your team. We've started to do a better job at least of prolonging drives. Meaning, even if we don't get points, we're picking up first downs and gaining field position. We need to do a better job of turning those drives into touchdowns and I don't think the answer is just to go as fast as you can. For every Oklahoma, there's a Syracuse.

As far as costing us games, special teams errors are far and away the biggest problem on the team. Jeff Thomas doesn't fumble that punt return at the 4 and Miami wins that game. They still have a great shot to win it if Bubba Baxa hits the chip shot field goal. Add the seven points taken off the board due to missed field goals and extra points and Miami wins the game against UNC, even with the 4th and 17 conversion. The offense has occasionally sputtered and the defense has had a few wtf? Moments but the kicking game has been down right pathetic.
 
Go Canes!! said:
He’s ignoring the blocked PAT, the missed chip shot and dropped 2 pt conversion that make the 4th and 17 irrelevant.

The offense didn’t cost us that game.
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Also the Jeff dropped td(that would have put Miami up 27-17 with 10 minutes left) and missed field goal vs uf game 1
 
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Go Canes!! said:
Again, your stats are BS.

You’re cherry picking small sample sizes and turning them into trends that take many more games to be accurate.

They’re not.
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Small sample sizes? We’ve played 3 games. I’m listing the statistics from those 3 games. You know, the ENTIRE sample size. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you didn’t do too well in statistics.
 
brock said:
Also the Jeff dropped td(that would have put Miami up 27-17 with 10 minutes left) and missed field goal vs uf game 1
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Is a dropped TD by a WR not poor offense? Jeff Thomas plays offense. He dropped a pass. That literally solidifies an argument that the offense wasn’t good enough. You’re smarter than this.
 
JD08 said:
If my offense has the ball, it's significantly less likely the opposition will score and much more likely that my team will. Given a choice between having the ball on offense or letting the opposing team have it, I'll choose to be on offense.

Thus, TOP increases the odds of higher scores as the offense improves.
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LMAO. Holy **** man. It absolutely blows my mind that in today’s world with all the information we have, that people think like this. You’d have been an incredible coach in 1977.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Small sample sizes? We’ve played 3 games. I’m listing the statistics from those 3 games. You know, the ENTIRE sample size. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you didn’t do too well in statistics.
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You counted the stats from the Bethune-Cookman game?
 
Go Canes!! said:
You counted the stats from the Bethune-Cookman game?
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Not in the national numbers, no. That’s why I said against FBS competition.

In the success rates, yes. Which is even more embarrassing.

In 3 games, yes, including the high school team we played last week, we have a 0% success rate on 3rd/4th down in the first quarter of all 3 games. That’s, shall we say, not good. The other stats (YPP, redzone, scoring...those are against FBS opponents aka do not include Bethune). Of course it’s a small sample size. It’s early in the year. Nobody said they can’t get better. But to this point, the offense has been average at best. If you want to say it’s because we have a freshman QB and tackles and guard and sophomores everywhere and a new scheme, ok. But that doesn’t change the bottom line. It hasn’t been good enough. Bottom 10 in the country in red zone TD % is how you get beat unless you get absolutely elite defensive play, which we haven’t had either. But nobody has scored 30 on us. You’d like to think your offense can get to that number. Surely against UNC you would. But so far, no dice.
 
swampcougar1 said:
Fast pace is over rated. Need to play at pace you are comfortable with for best results.
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Exactly.

Thank God we have a staff that is going to take care of business their way, focused on building for the long-term and getting this program back on track—opposed to knee-jerk fans flipping out every week since the opener, with one new gripe or another.

It's just after mid-September and Miami is three games in. Relax, people.
 
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Go Canes!! said:
Cause it sure looks to me like were not 82nd in scoring:

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That’s all games. Check out cfbstats.com. Way better than the NCAA site. Sort by only vs. FBS competition. Only takes into consideration everyone’s games against FBS teams. Throw out the scrimmage numbers. Miami is 82nd in the country. 22.5 PPG. 20 against UF, 25 against UNC. Not gonna win a lot of games in college football scoring 22.5 points.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
That’s all games. Check out cfbstats.com. Way better than the NCAA site. Sort by only vs. FBS competition. Only takes into consideration everyone’s games against FBS teams. Throw out the scrimmage numbers. Miami is 82nd in the country. 22.5 PPG. 20 against UF, 25 against UNC. Not gonna win a lot of games in college football scoring 22.5 points.
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of course not when your defense is giving up 24 points a game, that’s not good either. It’s easy to blame the offense but the defense has been by far the biggest reason why Miami is 0-2 right now, giving up 2 4th quarter leads immediately after the offense scored
 
brock said:
of course not when your defense is giving up 24 points a game, that’s not good either. It’s easy to blame the offense but the defense has been by far the biggest reason why Miami is 0-2 right now, giving up 2 4th quarter leads immediately after the offense scored
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Defense hasn’t been good enough either. But just score in the redzone when you have the opportunities and both games are over way before the drives the defenses gave up.

It’s the same argument I have with people all the time. Points are not worth more in the 4th quarter. They all count the same. How bout stepping on someone’s throat when you have the chance and not leaving games up to your defense?

1st and 10 on UF 22: 3 points
1st and 10 on UF 28: 3 points
1st and 10 on UF 11: 0 points
1st and 10 on UF 31: 0 points
1st and 10 on UF 24: 0 points

Lose the game by 4

1st and 10 on UNC 25: 3 points
1st and goal on UNC 8: 0 points
1st and goal on UNC 7: 3 points
1st and 10 on UNC 28: 0 points
1st and 10 on UNC 32: 0 points

Lose the game by 3

Sorry man, that’s bad offense. Period. You had plenty of chances to take these games by the throat, and you didn’t, plus your kicker has been AWFUL. Worse than awful. I’m an offensive guy....to me, if you’ve got the ball 1st and 10 deep in your opponent’s territory in a tough rivalry game, or in a road night game in your division, you snatch souls. You don’t score a total of 12 points on 10 drives with 1st downs at or inside your opponent’s 30 yard line. That’s nowhere near good enough.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Not in the national numbers, no. That’s why I said against FBS competition.

In the success rates, yes. Which is even more embarrassing.

In 3 games, yes, including the high school team we played last week, we have a 0% success rate on 3rd/4th down in the first quarter of all 3 games. That’s, shall we say, not good. The other stats (YPP, redzone, scoring...those are against FBS opponents aka do not include Bethune). Of course it’s a small sample size. It’s early in the year. Nobody said they can’t get better. But to this point, the offense has been average at best. If you want to say it’s because we have a freshman QB and tackles and guard and sophomores everywhere and a new scheme, ok. But that doesn’t change the bottom line. It hasn’t been good enough. Bottom 10 in the country in red zone TD % is how you get beat unless you get absolutely elite defensive play, which we haven’t had either. But nobody has scored 30 on us. You’d like to think your offense can get to that number. Surely against UNC you would. But so far, no dice.
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So you cherry picked stats.
 
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