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KANE said:
Looking at this game in hindsight, it’s almost as if Manny and Co. wasn’t really trying to win this game. It looked like the college version of an NFL Preseason game. Get through it, and get nobody hurt, **** the score! Think about the game plan we saw. The last time MD was calling plays, he would always seem to make adjustments after the first few series….. at least after the first half! I saw no noticeable adjustments other than some younger personnel in the game. It’s like we were so afraid of getting 70 hung on us. So afraid of Bama’s speed, so afraid of ****ing Saban off, that we just set back and did NOTHING. IDK man, maybe I’m grasping for straws to try to explain what I saw on that field, Saturday. At least the youngins that played didn’t look outta place Vs. bama, so we got that going for us, I guess.
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DJ Ivy still starting after costing us games for 3 years is enough for me.
 
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my problem is not losing to bama. it's having a kid like ivy start who's been costing us games for 3 years. he is always in on big plays. Dunson or anyone else can't be worse. When kids like ivy and Jennings play and you lose because they are targeted, that's unacceptable. if you lose with young kids, thats ok to me.
 
nycane said:
difference was those guys played the game, Manny didnt. players tend to respect former players
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when I say they played, I meant golden and Shannon. former players tend to have respect for former players. it's why Manny doesn't get alot of love in the coaching community.
 
nycane said:
my problem is not losing to bama. it's having a kid like ivy start who's been costing us games for 3 years. he is always in on big plays. Dunson or anyone else can't be worse. When kids like ivy and Jennings play and you lose because they are targeted, that's unacceptable. if you lose with young kids, thats ok to me.
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Spoiler alert

Maybe the other guys are actually that bad, I mean can you name anyone close to elite we recruited at CB

Couch is arguably our best corner, TS has been playing striker for two years, Blades is in la la land
 
nycane said:
difference was those guys played the game, Manny didnt. players tend to respect former players
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Not disagreeing, but that means it may cloud their judgment vs providing the clarity we need for these decisions.
 
HurricaneHauk said:
Spoiler alert

Maybe the other guys are actually that bad, I mean can you name anyone close to elite we recruited at CB

Couch is arguably our best corner, TS has been playing striker for two years, Blades is in la la land
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dunson flashed last year. Ivy is legit costing us games. give someone else a chance. I dont care, I rather at this point ride with someone else.
 
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Not surprised by the defense. It's been Manny's MO. Against equal to better talent his defense gets eaten alive but he feasts on average to bad offenses. Lashlee was the biggest disappointment by far and I agree with Vince there. We had all off season and Lashlee didn't have any new wrinkles? Same basic ***, predictable run game and he decided to try to establish on the best front 7 in the nation lol He's basically Manny also in the same sense that he feast on average to bad defenses but he's clueless against good to great competition. What a pair we have here. We can still win 10 games because our schedule is garbage but these two won't win any big games that actually matter.
 
nycane said:
fair
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Like are some butt hurt because of a failed process that lead us to Manny or are they butt hurt because they wanted their guy Mario instead. Because that is not helping the overall solve it is trading one bad process for another and praying we get lucky

which we are all hopefully trying to avoid
 
HurricaneHauk said:
Desperate for what exactly? If Manny loses 5-6 games this year he’s fired

Im not going to overreact losing to the #1 in the nation like this board and having stupid takes like we will lose to Duke and App State
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You’re desperate because you’re dismissing Wilfork’s (a HOF Cane, who has won Championships at College and NFL levels) valid point about our ****** performance on Saturday by using a moronic analogy of the Coker days. Is he overreacting? Of course not.

No one is expecting you to think the season is over but that doesn’t mean you can’t remove your head out of your *** and see what is happening with this team.
 
moshated305 said:
Not surprised by the defense. It's been Manny's MO. Against equal to better talent his defense gets eaten alive but he feasts on average to bad offenses. Lashlee was the biggest disappointment by far and I agree with Vince there. We had all off season and Lashlee didn't have any new wrinkles? Same basic ***, predictable run game and he decided to try to establish on the best front 7 in the nation lol He's basically Manny also in the same sense that he feast on average to bad defenses but he's clueless against good to great competition. What a pair we have here. We can still win 10 games because our schedule is garbage but these two won't win any big games that actually matter.
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Manny frustrates me because he is never prepared that makes great 2nd half adjustments. it's like why can't you do this from beginning?
I holding off on judging lashlee until I see him with a real QB. he also inherited a weak OL.
 
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