Duke talks UM playcallers [Golden&Coley] & their playbook!

[Cane Dynasty]

I think some people give the NFL a little too much credit.

How much more complex do you really think an NFL offense is? I've seen NFL coaches give clinics and it's the same stuff good college OC's are teaching.

You see college coordinators getting NFL jobs all the time. Does their knowledge of offense instantly jump once they get to the NFL? (no)

Macho for coach!

 

[Al Foil]

You have to run spread option with a running QB to win in college football today unless you can recruit first rounders at every position on offense to run a pro style system like FSU or Bama.

Its pretty simple.

 

[sitzee]

Right?? So let's keep our Offense simple for 17 & 18 year olds but we'll play a complex Defense for the samee 17 & 18 year olds??

Look what the Phins are doing? Coyle is simplifying the D' so players don't have to think so much out there and they can react more.. Be more instinctive.. Maybe Golden & No'D should think about doing the same..

I don't think Coley's the problem, IMO it's Golden.. Coley called a beautiful 1st half and the start of the 3rd quarter against FSU, and then they got conservative trying to hold onto the lead..

I don't know if Golden or No'D is the problem? But when the D plays Aggresive & Attacks instead of that Bend & Don't Break Crap, our team can play with almost any team in the country..

My Intern last summer played for Butch Davis at U.N.C. from 09-12, he said they use to fear playing The U, but now they believe they can Beat Us.

We've lost that SWAG

Either Golden has to Grow A Pair & Start going for the Juggler or Show him the Door..

I think you are making more of this than you should. In college its catered to 17 & 18 year olds coming out of high school. in the Pros you're getting 22 & 23 year olds. I would bet he is mostly talking about the language, intricacies, and audibles. Not trying to call Golden "Simple"

Our defense isn't complex at all. We just don't recruit the right type of player to execute it. Our defensive scheme should be dictated by the players we have and typically get out of south florida and not what worked at Temple.

Complex zone coverages instead of press man or under zone? It seemed almost sacrilegious. The South Florida kids on the Miami roster didn’t get it and didn’t like it.

It showed.

 

[Cane2]

I think some people give the NFL a little too much credit.

How much more complex do you really think an NFL offense is? I've seen NFL coaches give clinics and it's the same stuff good college OC's are teaching.

You see college coordinators getting NFL jobs all the time. Does their knowledge of offense instantly jump once they get to the NFL? (no)

Exactly.

But Golden&Coley have very limited playcalling experience. In Coley first year here, he didn't know how to utilize Duke and threw to him not even a handful of times.

Both my Pop Warner & H.S. coaches had more playcalling experiences than UM current coaches, and would have known to use Duke for more than four (4) catches. Appalling! Worse playcallers in D1 Football; it's not about NFL playcalling.

Why does UM keep those coaches?

 

[svenben]

Duke Said
But here Man, it’s real Football and you know, at this level, defensive guys kinda get a beat on what you’re [offense] doing,


You changed it to
other college teams’ "defensive coaches and guys also get a beat on what you’re [UM offense] doing" and so knew WTF Miami plays would be.


Just stop posting if this is your MO... its pathetic.

 

[Andrew]

Right?? So let's keep our Offense simple for 17 & 18 year olds but we'll play a complex Defense for the samee 17 & 18 year olds??

Look what the Phins are doing? Coyle is simplifying the D' so players don't have to think so much out there and they can react more.. Be more instinctive.. Maybe Golden & No'D should think about doing the same..

I don't think Coley's the problem, IMO it's Golden.. Coley called a beautiful 1st half and the start of the 3rd quarter against FSU, and then they got conservative trying to hold onto the lead..

I don't know if Golden or No'D is the problem? But when the D plays Aggresive & Attacks instead of that Bend & Don't Break Crap, our team can play with almost any team in the country..

My Intern last summer played for Butch Davis at U.N.C. from 09-12, he said they use to fear playing The U, but now they believe they can Beat Us.

We've lost that SWAG

Either Golden has to Grow A Pair & Start going for the Juggler or Show him the Door..

I think you are making more of this than you should. In college its catered to 17 & 18 year olds coming out of high school. in the Pros you're getting 22 & 23 year olds. I would bet he is mostly talking about the language, intricacies, and audibles. Not trying to call Golden "Simple"

Our defense isn't complex at all. We just don't recruit the right type of player to execute it. Our defensive scheme should be dictated by the players we have and typically get out of south florida and not what worked at Temple.

Complex zone coverages instead of press man or under zone? It seemed almost sacrilegious. The South Florida kids on the Miami roster didn’t get it and didn’t like it.

It showed.

No I am not suggestion that, just pointing out our defense isn't all that complex.

 

[Andrew]

I think some people give the NFL a little too much credit.

How much more complex do you really think an NFL offense is? I've seen NFL coaches give clinics and it's the same stuff good college OC's are teaching.

You see college coordinators getting NFL jobs all the time. Does their knowledge of offense instantly jump once they get to the NFL? (no)

You are right but players in college are coming from high school. The college offenses have to be something a sophomore can execute.

 

[Cane2]

Duke Said
But here Man, it’s real Football and you know, at this level, defensive guys kinda get a beat on what you’re [offense] doing,


You changed it to
other college teams’ "defensive coaches and guys also get a beat on what you’re [UM offense] doing" and so knew WTF Miami plays would be.


Just stop posting if this is your MO... its pathetic.

It is my personal take that for Duke and UM coaches that: other college teams’ "defensive coaches and [defensive] guys also get a beat on what you’re [UM offense] doing" and so knew WTF Miami plays would be. Therefore, why subject Duke and offensive players to the Pop Warner playcalling when defenders knew what was coming? There is a reason why UM playcalling results dead last in 3rd down conversion rate when they sport superior talents to all the teams they play except one or two teams. Reading is fundamental Svengali.