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2026 DT Board (2026 Edition)

skeeter said:
Yes there were other targets you moron…But you have an idea where there is 2 way interest by official visit season.

Simple stuff here

You absolute f****ng idiot
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And if a guy sets up an OV and ends up committing before that visit, there was never real interest I guess.

Why can’t you just admit you shortchanged us by at least a handful of DT recruits in your “we only truly recruited this many” accounting. It’s obvious. Like you’re saying we didn’t recruit enough or have a wide enough net. I disagree. And what I’m absolutely saying is the only way anyone including you look at this DT class and are happy is IF we flip one of those top guys we were already on that you believe we had no shot at or whatever **** your saying…
 
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Calinative said:
Why can’t you just admit you shortchanged us by at least a handful of DT recruits in your “we only truly recruited this many” accounting. It’s obvious.
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Because those guys were out of the picture by like what? Mid May? Early June? The cali kid earlier. Even when he de-commited from wherever (USC to Ore? Or was it vice versa, whatever), everyone knew we weren't a factor.

Again simple stuff here …you're getting wordy and really seem kinda feminine. I wouldn't want to rob a bank with you if you catch my drift... So just move on.
 
skeeter said:
Because those guys were out of the picture by like what? Mid May? Early June? The cali kid earlier. Even when he de-commited from wherever (USC to Ore? Or was it vice versa, whatever), everyone knew we weren't a factor.

Again simple stuff here …you're getting wordy and really seem kinda feminine. I wouldn't want to rob a bank with you if you catch my drift... So just move on.
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Mid May/Early June oh my! Almost like that was only a month or so ago lol.

Let's just be fully real. The only reason you are saying we waited too long to expand is because we missed. Plain and simple. The only way we expand the board is with lower rates guys anyways, and zero shot y'all are happy about that regardless is it happened last week, this week, or next month. We NEED to land a top DT. Period. All the talk about expanding the board is irrelevant to THAT. Yeah we need to make sure we get a guy like Villaimi or whatever his name is - because I think we need 4 this yr. But regardless we need a TOP DT. That's all there is to it. Idk why that's hard to just state. This DT class success will be entirely based on if we flip a top guy or not. Kennedy and bacon is cool. But you need a top guy to pair with them
 
Calinative said:
Mid May/Early June oh my! Almost like that was only a month or so ago lol.

Let's just be fully real. The only reason you are saying we waited too long to expand is because we missed.
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Well yeah…But it would have took some pretty **** sharp shooting tex not to miss.

But regardless we need a TOP DT
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Not one person here is stating otherwise, literally not one.
 
skeeter said:
No idiot.

I wanted us to not be delusional…And cast a bigger net in the first place. Simple stuff

Why are you still nagging me? You're like a f***in broad.
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We were hard after legit like 7 of the top 20 DTs lol. That's my point. Who did you want us to have a wider net at TOP DTs for? Like wouldn't it be MORE likely that the guys we focused on are the ones that were showing us interest in return? Maybe that's too logical...

Honest to God the ONLY person I can see a valid argument for is Kendall Guervill. He's the only other top 20 ranked DT in Florida along with James Johnson...

But I'd bet a lot of the guys we weren't hard after were even committed BEFORE MAY lol...
 
Calinative said:
We were hard after legit like 7 of the top 20 DTs lol. That's my point. Who did you want us to have a wider net at TOP DTs for? Like wouldn't it be MORE likely that the guys we focused on are the ones that were showing us interest in return? Maybe that's too logical...

Honest to God the ONLY person I can see a valid argument for is Kendall Guervill. He's the only other top 20 ranked DT in Florida along with James Johnson...

But I'd bet a lot of the guys we weren't hard after were even committed BEFORE MAY lol...
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7 out of 20 isn't ****, that's my point!

The kid we just offered that is going to Michigan should have long ago been offered…Or at least by April/May when the Cleveland/Guervil talk started dying down. It's also weird that we went silent with Deuce Geralds (as another for instance)

Also you have to have more of an idea and not be delusional on who is "showing you interest in return"
 
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Calinative said:
smh, I mean you are basically saying unless they took an OV that we weren't in consideration, which is false. No idea why that is the only indicator of a "realistic offer".

Guys you left out:
Vodney Cleveland
Tomuhin Topui
Kamhariyan Johnson

... Those 4 were all visited relatively recently and some already had a scheduled OV or were in process of scheduling an OV with before they Committed. So obviously at MINIMUM those 4 should be added to your list of 9. That makes 13 just off rip.

Also not sure how much we were on Geralds/Guervil but wouldn't be surprised if we were/are on them enough to be "real offers". Who knows if we have been on Jermaine Kinsler at all or not. But it seems like a year ago we were on him. Regardless if we were on a guy and one of main contenders before his commits to A&M (a while ago) why does that eliminate him from being a real offer?

That'd make 16.... I mean at this point we're talking about we were on like 20% of all the top DTs lol
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NONE OF THE 3 U LISTED WERE LEGITIMATE TARGETS.

-GUERVIL DIDNT APPEAR TO BE A HIGH PRIORITY TARGET OR HAVE INTEREST EITHER WAY
- WE ARE UNSURE WHAT OR WHERE WE EVER PUSHED FOR GERALDS.

THEIR NET WASNT WIDE ENOUGH IM IN AGREEMENT WITH @skeeter.

Itw asntw ide enough because they felt good about some of their high targets clearly.

Want to know it wasnt?. they have reached out and offered 2-3 new ones this last 2 week....they took Kennedy who they initially brought in then didnt take...they brought in the kid from spruce creek essentially for a try out "commit table offer" then passed and he went with ga tech.
 
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skeeter said:
7 out of 20 isn't ****, that's my point!

The kid we just offered that is going to Michigan should have long ago been offered…Or at least by April/May when the Cleveland/Guervil talk started dying down. It's also weird that we went silent with Deuce Geralds (as another for instance)

Also you have to have more of an idea and not be delusional on who is "showing you interest in return"
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You expect to have significant traction with over 35% of top DTs?
Maybe you just have far less realistic expectations than I do then. I mean that's what we are talking about right, not just offers. We are talking about guys that gave us actual time of day basically...
I think our DT net this year was like the largest it's been in any year under Mario. We had far more traction with top DTs this year than just about any previous season. We just finished like 2nd/3rd for all of them... SO FAR.

It's July. We will see what happens with DLine recruiting by December
 
gogeta4 said:
NONE OF THE 3 U LISTED WERE LEGITIMATE TARGETS.

-GUERVIL DIDNT APPEAR TO BE A HIGH PRIORITY TARGET OR HAVE INTEREST EITHER WAY
- WE ARE UNSURE WHAT OR WHERE WE EVER PUSHED FOR GERALDS.

THEIR NET WASNT WIDE ENOUGH IM IN AGREEMENT WITH @skeeter.

Itw asntw ide enough because they felt good about some of their high targets clearly.

Want to know it wasnt?. they have reached out and offered 2-3 new ones this last 2 week....they took Kennedy who they initially brought in then didnt take...they brought in the kid from spruce creek essentially for a try out "commit table offer" then passed and he went with ga tech.
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All 3 literally had OVs scheduled here and had visited very recently... But sure they weren't legit targets... When this entire thing is about only OVs indicating a target being real supposedly lol.

Maybe they just didn't evaluate Gerald's and Guervill as being very good.

And the new offers are top DTs lol. That'sy point. Nobody that we are now offering is gonna make people suddenly change their mind and be like you know what this is a good class now. No we NEED to land a top DT prospect. And imo the net was sufficiently wide for THOSE prospects. We had traction with a lot of them. We just came up short. Good news is it is July and we have till December to change that.

Sure a guy like Villaimi or one of those other offers that are our would be good adds. But idk if y'all have seen our DT depth chart going forward.... We need 4 guys. And 1 needs to be a top DT prospect.
 
skeeter said:
Lol…False

And regardless inishing 2nd or 3rd for 4 or 5 good DT and calling it traction doesn't mean ****
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Uh are you thinking I am saying it was good to finish 2nd/3rd instead of 1st? Lmao. It was traction and REAL recruitments tho, whether you like it or not

I think Mario successfully flips a Top DT target by NSD. And that's what needs to happen for this DT class not to "just" be solid.
 
Calinative said:
All 3 literally had OVs scheduled here and had visited very recently... But sure they weren't legit targets... When this entire thing is about only OVs indicating a target being real supposedly lol.

Maybe they just didn't evaluate Gerald's and Guervill as being very good.

And the new offers are top DTs lol. That'sy point. Nobody that we are now offering is gonna make people suddenly change their mind and be like you know what this is a good class now. No we NEED to land a top DT prospect. And imo the net was sufficiently wide for THOSE prospects. We had traction with a lot of them. We just came up short. Good news is it is July and we have till December to change that.

Sure a guy like Villaimi or one of those other offers that are our would be good adds. But idk if y'all have seen our DT depth chart going forward.... We need 4 guys. And 1 needs to be a top DT prospect.
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- I didnt eval Guervil to be that high. There is no way they didnt evaluate Geralds as not being good. He wrecked the all star game in the winter a full class up for him. Maybe he didnt give us the traction.

- They were longshots with an ov scheduled. Maybe your confusing that of them being main targets. None of those 3 were. We were more so all in on the others that we whiffed on

I listed their main consistent targets and guys like Stencil (nc) who they felt good about.

I didnt say anything about "top dts". Because quite frankly that is BASED off your eval of the prospect. Not 247/rivals. There is a thing called the portal where they should recruit an interior DL EVERY CYCLE. I'd like to add 2 more hs dts though.
Im a fan of Nagle, Moala, Vallejo, Telona. Land 2-4 and its good to me. we also offered Kaleb Morrisd as another inside out guy out of alabama. (Miss state commit)
 
gogeta4 said:
- I didnt eval Guervil to be that high. There is no way they didnt evaluate Geralds as not being good. He wrecked the all star game in the winter a full class up for him. Maybe he didnt give us the traction.

- They were longshots with an ov scheduled. Maybe your confusing that of them being main targets. None of those 3 were. We were more so all in on the others that we whiffed on

I listed their main consistent targets and guys like Stencil (nc) who they felt good about.

I didnt say anything about "top dts". Because quite frankly that is BASED off your eval of the prospect. Not 247/rivals. There is a thing called the portal where they should recruit an interior DL EVERY CYCLE. I'd like to add 2 more hs dts though.
Im a fan of Nagle, Moala, Vallejo, Telona. Land 2-4 and its good to me. we also offered Kaleb Morrisd as another inside out guy out of alabama. (Miss state commit)
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Ideal class to me would probably be:
- Keep Asharri Charles, Anthony Kennedy, and Tyson Bacon
- Flip Lamar Brown or Tomuhini Topui as our Top DT prospect
- Land Anthony Jones at EDGE
- Then Land 1 of Moala/Telona/Nagle or similar level player.
 
Calinative said:
Ideal class to me would probably be:

- Land Anthony Jones at EDGE
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Edge was also a very small net this yr compared to the past…Not quite as big a need as DT. But still, there is no reason for JT not to land a couple good edges each year.

We are supposedly out of it for A. Jones, not even mentioning us anymore. Besides a couple of kids that we supposedly had on the back burner, Lafayette, and Morgan

We already counted Wilson as a DT, but he's likely a swingman

We brought 4 DE/edge for visits. We had no prayer on Okpala…And one of the 4 (Wilkes) had to cancel…And one committed, Charles...Again, don't understand the small net at a couple of positions.
 
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Have you noticed recruitment timelines have completely changed? Unless you are recruiting a player for years, you have somewhat from the beginning of the new year until July. Roughly, that is it, now. Almost all recruits have used all their OV's. Most of your class should be filled. You keep recruiting for a flip or 2 and filling your class, but that is it. Recruiting has completely changed from in season visits with 8 to 10 months wide open recruiting.
Their is your small net, maybe 6 months of wide open recruiting now. I assume the UGA's and USC are basically done right now with 30 commits.
 
skeeter said:
Edge was also a very small net this yr compared to the past…Not quite as big a need as DT. But still, there is no reason for JT not to land a couple good edges each year.

We are supposedly out of it for A. Jones, not even mentioning us anymore. Besides a couple of kids that we supposedly had on the back burner, Lafayette, and Morgan

We already counted Wilson as a DT, but he's likely a swingman

We brought 4 DE/edge for visits. We had no prayer on Okpala…And one of the 4 (Wilkes) had to cancel…And one committed, Charles...Again, don't understand the small net at a couple of positions.
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I disagree. It seems incredibly apparent to me that the net at DT was substantially wider than EDGE. EDGE we barely recruited anyone… like DT board was legit 3-4x larger than EDGe
 
Calinative said:
I disagree. It seems incredibly apparent to me that the net at DT was substantially wider than EDGE. EDGE we barely recruited anyone… like DT board was legit 3-4x larger than EDGe
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3-4X may be pushing it...But bigger, and deservedly so as it wasn't as big a need.

But even then, both boards needed to be bigger.
 
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