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Don't kill the messenger. Word is, Golden gone by Monday.

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hughhoney said:
Holy ****, the money the University would make if they fired this guy and brought in Butch. They're really counting pennies right now? Pay Golden, and get him the **** out of here!
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I agree with this. If the university is worried about losing money to Folden and his a** hat crew then they need to get this figured out. If they don't get rid of Folden now they will continue to lose recruits, fans, and donors. In turn losing even more money. Even if they wait until next year, they will eventually have to pay some type of buyout and by then who knows how much damage they will have done to the program.
If they get rid of Folden and make the right hire, one who comes in and wins big time games and locks up some big time recruits, then there might be more fans in the stands and more fans willing to make donations. Right now the university is losing in more ways than one by keeping Folden around. They have to swallow their pride and do what needs to be done.
 
How incompetent can the UM attorneys be to structure a contract where the HC controls everything. Serves them right for being held hostage by Golden and his attorney.
 
Is this smoke? Someone answer yes or no. Should I expect changes to the UM coaching staff tomorrow?
 
So based on Vinn's info in that post a few pages back, is there still hope that Golden will be fired or forced to resign tomorrow(monday)?
 
@Geo. Does your source still feels confident on the potential staff changes on Monday?
 
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I hope golden takes these ******* idiots for everything they're worth.

It's his fault that he sucks, but he's not going to fire himself.

Stopped being the bad guy in my mind during mondaygate.

At this point he's just a greasy piece of **** who doesn't know much about football. He has no business being a HC in the first place.
 
hurricanes07 said:
@kylemc23: Shalala got involved Al Golden will not be fired until she leaves. Wow this sucks sorry for misleading info. My day is ruined.
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Do not listen to that guy listen to Vinn... Shalala is not gunna do sh*t... Vinn is legit let's see where this goes I have more hope
 
561Cane said:
How incompetent can the UM attorneys be to structure a contract where the HC controls everything. Serves them right for being held hostage by Golden and his attorney.
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These maroons never learn, do they?

One would think that they would have learned from our dealings with Fat Head, Haith, Coker and Shannon.

Nah!!! Keeps getting more stupid by the minute!!

We must have a bunch of high schoolers in the administration.

Such incompetence bordering on criminal sabotage !!
 
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I just want the bleeding to stop and the rest can work itself out.
 
KevinCosio said:
hurricanes07 said:
@kylemc23: Shalala got involved Al Golden will not be fired until she leaves. Wow this sucks sorry for misleading info. My day is ruined.
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Do not listen to that guy listen to Vinn... Shalala is not gunna do sh*t... Vinn is legit let's see where this goes I have more hope
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Truth. That Kyle guy conjured it up from her tv interview. He just made that up about her getting involved.
 
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lol. Lots of ***** being thrown at the wall here and at CIS. Let me try and separate the wheat from the chaff.

As I mentioned earlier this week, some BoT member and a couple of UM lawyers were going over with a fine tooth comb the language of Al's contract in regards to keeping or firing assistant coaches.

Al's agent came back into town for 2 days. He was also in town after the Pitt game when I thought we really had the best chance to part ways.

BOTH sides have tried to get out of the contract but BOTH sides want the better end of the deal. Al is digging in and won't go without the full dollar amount. UM up til now does not want to pay the full amount and believing that they are keeping him are trying to at least force some changes in his staff as they realize the status quo simply cannot be allowed to remain as is.

Al, while not off the grid, did fade into the background for a day or two. This is where I think the CIS rumor started to grow. Al gone quiet, his agent in town, the Mexican standoff being played out like a 3rd grade slumber party pillow fight.

Since my guy has yet to be wrong, I will keep riding with him. There is activity. There are contingency plans being made. There are statements being prepared. The one good thing about the PSU incident is that the UM folks now have a plan in place to be active instead of reactive, but with this group who knows that may be worse.

All the major players are due to be back tomorrow. Another push will be made for termination. Once again we will have to wait and see if the bean counters will give in.

if this sounds like rinse-wash-repeat it is because it is. The absurdity of it all is breathtaking. Like someone else said, I can't recall any sports team, Pro or college, that has ever been held hostage like this. But I don't blame Al here. The ones holding us hostage are the UM lawyers IMO.
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Whooping cane PM'd me the exact same info it must be legit.
 
I can just go ahead and say that Donna isn't going to have any pull in this. She can put in her 2 cents like saying this is Al's first year and it'll take a year or 2 but it's not her call here. She is friends with Al so of course she doesn't want it to sound like it's her idea. I never expected any announcement over the weekend unless Al decided to resign. Anything other than that will come Monday, or just any week day. no idea if he'll be fired or not, but come Monday, everyday after that my hope will continue to drop.
 
I don't even blame Al at this point. I wouldn't walk away from the money either. UM was dumb enough to give him the contract and they should have to pay the price to get out of it like any other school would. Al is what he is. He sucks and this is likely his last big pay day. I would be digging in as well and force this 2nd rate school to pay me every dime they owe me.
 
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