D'onofrio coaching clinic

[Bigtip]

LOLz at Westendzone claiming that yards per play doesnt matter and posting Sabans philosophy

#3. hold opponents to 3.3 yards per rush
#4 hold opponents to 5.0 yards per pass

guess what that implies about yards per play?

it should be well south of 5.0 in total. just what I've been telling you'll retards. a 50%/50% average gives 4.15 yards per play

60/40 run/pass puts you right under 4.0

 

[theibisrules]

We're being compared to Alabama, in discussing defense.

Dear God.

If there were ever polar opposites, it's Golden/D'Onofrio's scheme/execution/bowel movement and the defense at Alabama.

I know! Let's talk about their magnificent performances at . . . what was th - oh yeah. Temple. Siht on a stick.

 

[theibisrules]

what did they put together you mouth breather? you are propping up two decent defenses that played really terrible teams as some sort of evidence that these idiots are some defensive gurus.

you look like a raging ******

yet i always seem to be on the right side of these arguments..... again, you lack perespective... the 16th and 12th ranked defense is better than just 'decent' ...and maybe that wouldnt be great with bamas roster...but with the guys that temple was bringing in, thats pretty **** good

really? according to who?

what is the 16th and 12th ranking a measure of? points given up? yards?

there are many different measures of defensive performance. another one that is very indicative of performance is yards per play and these defenses of F.A.G.s are AWFUL by that measure

I'm stepping in on this one. Bigtip, relax. You're wrong. This is supposed to be a civilized discussion. I've seen you on nearly every active thread insulting people.

It's widely recognized that scoring defense is the most telling stat. At the end of the day, points on the scoreboard are what matter the most. That's pretty much universal. Gary Patterson's system is know for it's attacking style, but it's his philosophy that if they're good enough, they going to play base all game. Alabama has the same philosophy.

this is hilarious. it is not "widely recognized that scoring defense is the most telling stat" - even if it is ours is TERRIBLE

LOL at bringing up Bamas defensive philosophy. F.A.G.s defense is pretty much the dynamic opposite of Bama:

terrible vs the run and pass - high ypp
give up tons of points
leave the middle WIDE OPEN
AWFUL on 3rd down

why did you bring up Bama again?

AG needs to give us straight talk like this....take them pillars and cram them up ur funky lil a$$

 

[TreOFive]

I guess Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick are blind too. Groh learned under those Hall of Famers/Super Bowl Champions.

Did I say this was parcells/belicheck coaching tree...He learned under them as you highlight and what has Groh accomplished by learning under those HOF's?

My post is about who has learned under Groh you simple minded dud. Guess you are in line with the rest of these apologists. SMH and we wonder why these feeble minded individuals hold the position they hold.

It's irresponsible to ignore important facts like those. I think it's relevant who Groh learned from. Groh has a great reputation, btw. He got bad pub later in his career, mainly because he was old. I'm not apologizing for anyone. Did I give my opinion on anything? yes You made assumptions about my entire state of mind. Maybe I agree with many things you agree with.does not seem that way Did you care to ask? sure did not, I responded to your questioning/logicDo you care to have a discussion? about how bad our DC is or about whether the HOF coaches make my post invalid?Or would you rather insult people all afternoon?it was morning when I responded, i only insult in the morning, after lunch and coffee I am more receptive of logic

Its irresponsible to ignore what facts? Groh learning from HOF's but not doing squat since or the fact that the coaches (specifically at Miami) that have learned under him are failing? Which facts?

I address the rest of your questions above

It is evident that you have departed from expected sensibilities, taking a factious approach to this exchange. As a grantor to this colloquium you are under a duty to reasonably take a hand in advancing the general good of this forum. There are numerous, nearly endless ways by which to do this. You have failed in finding one. You've wasted my time.

I can be a pain in the *** too -- but I'm better at it. You made the conclusion "doesnt seem that way" from two sentences. No one can make an educated guess on that. Learn to have a discussion. I know it's hard for you, but try. By personally attacking anyone who raises anything of a resemblance to alternate thinking, you and many like you ruin the discourse on this board. Drop the group think and be single minded for at least a little while, you'll be come a better person for it.

you sir take yourself and the act of posting on this internet forum way too seriously. Put the dictionary down and go get some cutty. stop surfing the internet being an intellectual pain in the *** and acting like you know what your talking about. I also would add that if your gonna neg that you do it for something other than the pussified reason you gave (i.e., personal attack). Go get a therapist and work on your fragile ego

 

[NVA CANE]

Lulz at throwing 3 years of solid evidence while at Miami and 10 out of 12 years as a DC and HC for golden. The guy just isn't a good defensive mind. Simple as that.

 

[DaU83]

Lol, now we're looking at yards per play?

you are such a raging idiot.

you do know that defensive rankings are generally determined by either yards per game or points per game right?

yards per play is a way of normalizing the results for offensive time of possession (or number of plays run against a team). the two (yards per game and yards per play) are at least highly correlated...same with points

ppg, is the only one that matters, for the yard whores,even ypg is ok.. but ypp? gtfoh.

 

[Bigtip]

Lol, now we're looking at yards per play?

you are such a raging idiot.

you do know that defensive rankings are generally determined by either yards per game or points per game right?

yards per play is a way of normalizing the results for offensive time of possession (or number of plays run against a team). the two (yards per game and yards per play) are at least highly correlated...same with points

ppg, is the only one that matters, for the yard whores,even ypg is ok.. but ypp? gtfoh.

you are simply an idiot.

 

[Bigtip]

Hey irg - do you not realize that yards per play is one of the most scrutinized stats by Vegas an all odds makers?

you are such a drooling ****** it is pointless to talk to you.

Irg: "yards dont matter just points"

you sound just like Dorito

 

[UMFarArcher]

Hey irg - do you not realize that yards per play is one of the most scrutinized stats by Vegas an all odds makers?

you are such a drooling ****** it is pointless to talk to you.

Irg: "yards dont matter just points"

you sound just like Dorito

Just a bit too much.

Hey, Dorito. Just talking about you. You ****.

 

[Mjm0653]

God i cant stop laughing at the comments!!
So so right!!

 

[Mjm0653]

Who would be stupid enough to go to a clinic by this guy?

 

[umfire]

This thread ... yikes

 

[Odin]

Who would be stupid enough to go to a clinic by this guy?

It was part of a Disney package.I f you sat through 2 hours of Denofrio's clinic you would get free tickets to 1 of the 4 theme parks.

 

[NVA CANE]

Who would be stupid enough to go to a clinic by this guy?

I'd go just to heckle him.

 

[TheMatador]

He's very intelligent and his defensive schemes are legit. I think they are better suited for pro ball imho. The baby Canes he coaches are not on his football level mentally. I do think it could work here, with a ton of red shirts that have been in his systems for five years. The problem is you can't just grab a kid out of high school that is ready for this stuff. His other problem is, quite honestly, his system requires run stoppage and pressure without utilizing the LB'ers. We have been soft on the DL since his arrival and he hasn't adjusted affectively. We should be much better this year, mainly because his schemes when utilized properly with personal, leans heavily on the safeties. Hopefully if the secondary lives up to its billing and stays healthy, the LB'ers won't be exposed as often in coverage like last season. It's truly a think first D. The kids we have weren't ready mentally for this in their early time at Miami. I'm interested to see if both they and Coach D have learned from the last two seasons. Cautiously optimistic

I'm trying to remember the quote I read from Pete Carroll around the time of the SuperBowl. He uses a complex defense but found he couldn't implement all of it effectively at USC. I've suspected for a long time D'Onofrio had a similar problem here but didn't adjust by simplifying. Also, it seems a lot of the personnel we had in the front seven was mediocre. The 4-3 slide we used starting with JJ seemed have the value of simplicity--you just tell your DLs to pin their ears back and go. I wonder if he 's ever talked to JJ.

 

[TheMatador]

Hey irg - do you not realize that yards per play is one of the most scrutinized stats by Vegas an all odds makers?

you are such a drooling ****** it is pointless to talk to you.

Irg: "yards dont matter just points"

you sound just like Dorito

Just a bit too much.

Hey, Dorito. Just talking about you. You ****.

I don't know what Vegas knows...I remember great defenses we had many years ago that gave up tons of yardage but would never let you score. The great defenses of the late '60's were like that. Maybe not relevant now to talk bend not break.

 

[Bigtip]

Hey irg - do you not realize that yards per play is one of the most scrutinized stats by Vegas an all odds makers?

you are such a drooling ****** it is pointless to talk to you.

Irg: "yards dont matter just points"

you sound just like Dorito

Just a bit too much.

Hey, Dorito. Just talking about you. You ****.

I don't know what Vegas knows...I remember great defenses we had many years ago that gave up tons of yardage but would never let you score. The great defenses of the late '60's were like that. Maybe not relevant now to talk bend not break.

the best defensive teams (and usually the best teams) are in the top of the yards per play allowed every year

irg is a functioning ****** that likely takes the bus from his mom's house to work where he wears a uniform and name tag and probably a drive through headset

ypp is just another way of normalizing for other variables (such as the team's offensive time of possession).

 

[Republicane]

lrg wears a helmet.