Donna Shalala attack ad

[Awsi Dooger]

She's down like 2 or 3 pts in a district that Hillary won by 20pts. In typical Shalala fashion she'll probably give her campaign manager a contract extension by Sunday.

Mason-Dixon is a good pollster in statewide races but shakier elsewhere. Tends to err right. Questionable poll because it puts Gillum and Nelson only up 4 points apiece in FL-27. If that is true they will be drubbed statewide, and there in no indication of that. I would be much more confident in the accuracy of the Salazar edge if it coincided with let's say a Gillum/Nelson advantage of 8-12 in the same poll.

Shalala was immediately the elephant in the room once she entered the primary. Rodriguez was the early Democratic frontrunner last year but he imploded with comments that sounded more like a Republican. That opened the door for Shalala, and Rodriguez bailed out of the race in spring as soon as Shalala entered. Then Richardson the former Herald employee had lots of late momentum from the Gillum wing but he was simply too late and underfunded. The primary was closer than expected and Richardson probably would have won with an earlier start.

This is my district. I give Shalala credit for relentless contact. Without exaggeration, her campaign has contacted me more than all previous Democratic campaigns combined since I returned to Miami in late 2008 and registered Democratic. I have yet to hear from Nelson or Gillum, for example. This is absolutely the opposite of when I lived in Clark County, NV. Democrats dominated the contacts and ground game there, thanks to Harry Reid fortifying the operations in preparation for a troublesome midterm race at the end of his career. He prevailed narrowly over wingnut Sharron Angle.

My cell phone number was not on file with my voter registration. Yet Shalala's campaign contacted me via cell phone. I'm wondering if she got it from my Canes season ticket holder information. Now other Democrats have contacted me via that number, including Annette Taddeo.

Republican donors were not going to fund this race until polling tightened. Salazar is pushing her comparative youth and vitality in commercials, like wandering around in a beach, and paddling a kayak, or whatever that is. No question the candidate to candidate realities make this race competitive, when otherwise it would not have been. Shalala does not speak Spanish and had to wear an earpiece in the recent debate translated for Spanish television.

I have been cleaning up on Predictit, the political wagering site. Lots of right wingers there who predictably have no clue what they are doing, like shoving Dr. Ford to underdog price to actually testify before the senate. They applied their own fear and frailties to her. This race was Shalala 90 cent favorite, which was too darn high and not representative of all the complicated variables of the district. Now it has dropped to 60 cents.

I wager on Republicans 70% of the time, despite my partisanship, since the value is typically with that side. If Shalala is pushed to underdog here there could be some value on the Democrat. Last year at about this time Jose Felix Diaz led the local polling against Taddeo, but lost by 4 points. Normally the side with the benefit of the severe national slant wins the hefty majority of the tight races.

 

[Zbrod95]

Still looks alive to me.

You missed Frenk run in with some shock paddles and yell "CLEAR!!"

 

[TheMatador]

Meh, the Shapiro thing wasn't on her. Slimy *** Nevin showed up and handed her a check, which UM returned. She'd never get my vote, but she had nothing to do with probation, in my opinion. Fault crappy hires, not a returned check.

Somebody was involved and I don't know who. I'm far removed from the situation but a friend who was very plugged in to the athletic department told me that he (and I guess some others) tried to warn "them" (and I don't know who he meant by that) that Shapiro was a crook, but they didn't listen. I assume he meant top officials in the athletic department or the university administration itself. This was the last or second-to-last communication I had with him; he died shortly thereafter.

The fact Shalala "returned" a check doesn't seem to be enough to absolve her of ultimate responsibility for the mess and near disaster that engulfed the university.

The fact she is involved with the filthy Clinton operation makes her even less desirable.

By the way, I first registered as a Democrat fifty years ago when I still lived in Florida, am still a registered Democrat, but am disgusted with what had happened to my once-great party. The Clinton's and their coterie are part of that.

I worked as a teenage volunteer in the local Kennedy-Johnson campaign office in Bay Harbor Islsnds in 1960.So, I've been a Democrat for a long time.

This is not the same middle-of-the-road party I used to know.

By the way, as I heard the story, it was a Bush Republican, Chuck Cobb, a UM trustee, who recruited Shalala to the U. I met Chuck at a UM basketball game against Georgetown. He had a high-level govt appointment. He came over to sit with the UM crowd.

I defended the pick of Shalala to a friend also in the D C. area UM community. She ( my Republican friend) didn't like her because of her involvement with the Clinton administration. I pointed out that Shalala had a very good record as an administrator in higher education and would probably do a very good job for the university. Give her a chance.Generally, I think she did. I don't know if the Shapiro mess should he a blot on her record.

I guess her predecessor, Tad Foote, also did a lot to advance the university as a high quality research institution. Back in the '80's, a lot of fans I knew didn't seem to like him because they felt we would decline athletically with higher standards. Our success in 2001 and what I think will be our return to pre-eminence disproves that.

When it comes to politics, I don't like Shalala's association with the Clintons and the growing extremism of the Democratic party. A lot of you will say the GOP is the extremist party. We'll have to disagree.

 

[TheMatador]

Downvoted for the politics. I don’t give a shlt if you’re a Mussolini’s fascist or a Stalin communist, I just don’t want to hear about it.

Then don't read it. This is obviously a political thread, unusual for a football board.

 

[TheMatador]

Donna was a plague to Hurricanes football, I will never like anything about her.

I'll give her credit for whatever good she did for the university although my connection is mainly through sports and I'm not an alum, although I did work with the alumni office in the '80's. Helped start an alumni group when there was none in the D.C.area. We started as mainly a group holding watch parties at local sports bars. From there, an alumni group started to take shape. We also worked with the admissions office and the Miami Circle, the national recruitment program (not athletic recruitment). Now D.C. has a booming alumni operation. I'm the only one who knows the history of it's modest beginnings and how a none-alum was primarily responsible for getting a group of old alums who liked UM football to watch games at the best sports bar in D.C. (Champions). Sadly, Champions is long gone. Last I checked it was replaced by a ******* nightclub.

 

[mirednmediocrity2]

Barely.

 

[iLoveTDs]

Donna was great for the school, but was AWFUL for the sports programs and specifically the football team.

This is exaggerated beyond belief. Great for the school? Please. This woman was incompetent, had poor managing skills, wasted millions and millions of dollars on a regular basis, and was so politically correct and egotistical that it turned off a lot big donors. That doesn’t even include setting UM football back 15 years.

Anything she touches turns to ****. And spare me the slight increases in “US Rankings” bull****. Those are arbitrary rankings anyhow.

The board let this woman walk all over them. This 4’2 gremlin made cowards out of them. Guess that happens when Bill and Hillary are on your speed dial.

She can get fvcked.

 

[iLoveTDs]

IIRC the NCAA could have come down harder on The U for the Shapiro scandal. Donna stared down the NCAA and the NCAA blinked. Like her or not, she's in deep with the Clinton Cartel and that's not by being weak.

She gets us in trouble with the NCAA, and then “saves us” by reducing the schollies penalty? This is staring down the ncaa? Lol

Typical politician to do the damage, and then swoop in afterwards to try and salababe what’s left of the University’s image.

And don’t think for a minute that she wasn’t part of the Nevin scandal. They knew all about Nevin, and had been warned on multiple occasions that he’s a cancer.

She ignored it because the checks were clearing.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

She gets us in trouble with the NCAA, and then “saves us” by reducing the schollies penalty? This is staring down the ncaa? Lol

Typical politician to do the damage, and then swoop in afterwards to try and salababe what’s left of the University’s image.

And don’t think for a minute that she wasn’t part of the Nevin scandal. They knew all about Nevin, and had been warned on multiple occasions that he’s a cancer.

She ignored it because the checks were clearing.

The issue with Nevin was he was a snitch. He got a lot of players to come to the U. I hate the guy because he snitched, but if he kept his mouth shut after getting busted he would have went down as a legendary cane.

 

[TheMatador]

She gets us in trouble with the NCAA, and then “saves us” by reducing the schollies penalty? This is staring down the ncaa? Lol

Typical politician to do the damage, and then swoop in afterwards to try and salababe what’s left of the University’s image.

And don’t think for a minute that she wasn’t part of the Nevin scandal. They knew all about Nevin, and had been warned on multiple occasions that he’s a cancer.

She ignored it because the checks were clearing.

This is consistent with what I heard. Some people--whom I don't know--ignored warnings due to greed.

 

[TheMatador]

She was running a university not a football program. She had Miami in the top 40 of all universities. Blaming a university president for a ****** football program (or Nevin Shapiro) is dumb. You think we dominated in the 80s because Tad Foote was some big football booster?

I think we succeeded in '80's despite Tad Foote. He wanted to change the culture and stiffen academic requirements for athletes. I notice that we rarely have weak

This is exaggerated beyond belief. Great for the school? Please. This woman was incompetent, had poor managing skills, wasted millions and millions of dollars on a regular basis, and was so politically correct and egotistical that it turned off a lot big donors. That doesn’t even include setting UM football back 15 years.

Anything she touches turns to ****. And spare me the slight increases in “US Rankings” bull****. Those are arbitrary rankings anyhow.

The board let this woman walk all over them. This 4’2 gremlin made cowards out of them. Guess that happens when Bill and Hillary are on your speed dial.

She can get fvcked.

Unlikely.

 

[TheMatador]

The issue with Nevin was he was a snitch. He got a lot of players to come to the U. I hate the guy because he snitched, but if he kept his mouth shut after getting busted he would have went down as a legendary cane.

Is he still in prison? I wonder how a guy like that would do.... think he's got a husband yet?

 

[Canedude08]

There are two type of Miami fans. There are people that actually understand what a University President does, and because of that have a ton of respect for Dr. Shalala. Then you have the ones that think that Dr. Shalala actually sat around and tried to ***** the athletic department. We call those people morons.

It's amazing how many people think that she, nor anyone else was supposed to know something that the FBI and SEC couldn't figure out for YEARS. Let's be honest, most of our major boosters are unpleasant people, being filthy rich tends to make monsters out of most. If Nevin was legit, but a complete sleaze ball, and Dr. Shalala would have not accepted money from him, knowing full well that the athletic department desperately needed people to fund it, idiots would have been up in arms. She does it, guy turns out to be a con man, and people are still mad. It's like certain fans just want something, anything to be ****ed about.

 

[Canedude08]

So Donna gets hired, we turn into a laughing stock that can't afford a IPF.
Donna leaves, we hire Richt and start winning. Then all of a sudden CAN afford an IPF.....

Totally fair...

Let me guess, you couldn't find Richter with a map and a member of P-100 showing you the way. If you believe that a University President is managing the athletic department, then you don't have any idea how a major University works. The University President has LITTLE to do with the success of the football program. In fact, if your University President is obviously a football stooge, that's usually a sign that your school is a bull**** diploma mill. See FSU for proof of that phenomenon.

Planning for the IPF happened while Shalala was still in office(They were talking about an IPF when Golden was HC for crying out loud), fundraising took forever, as does everything associated with this fanbase. Miami was not going to take money from the general fund to subsidize that building, nor should they have. The athletic department must raise their own money, and then manage it successfully.

You really think Tad Foote was some superior sports guy? No, he clashed with the athletic department, because he wanted Miami to not be the typical jock school and held people accountable. Miami won championships anyway, because of a succession of talented, intelligent Athletic Directors, that teamed with certain members of the BOT to ensure that they had the things they needed in order to win.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Is he still in prison? I wonder how a guy like that would do.... think he's got a husband yet?

He is still in there. He is in the feds so there is a lot less chance of him getting beat up compared to doing state time. He is probably doing fine though. Worst case scenario for him he could just buy protection/get extorted for a few grand a month.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Let me guess, you couldn't find Richter with a map and a member of P-100 showing you the way. If you believe that a University President is managing the athletic department, then you don't have any idea how a major University works. The University President has LITTLE to do with the success of the football program. In fact, if your University President is obviously a football stooge, that's usually a sign that your school is a bull**** diploma mill. See FSU for proof of that phenomenon.

Planning for the IPF happened while Shalala was still in office(They were talking about an IPF when Golden was HC for crying out loud), fundraising took forever, as does everything associated with this fanbase. Miami was not going to take money from the general fund to subsidize that building, nor should they have. The athletic department must raise their own money, and then manage it successfully.

You really think Tad Foote was some superior sports guy? No, he clashed with the athletic department, because he wanted Miami to not be the typical jock school and held people accountable. Miami won championships anyway, because of a succession of talented, intelligent Athletic Directors, that teamed with certain members of the BOT to ensure that they had the things they needed in order to win.

Foote was a massive ***** as was Shalala. I spent many nights inside of Richter. I would usually either work in the stacks basement or top floor or if I had someone to do work with I would reserve one of the study rooms on the second floor. Also, I am very happy Donna took the money from Nevin. We needed the money and he got a lot of elite players to come to our school. However, she was the one that wouldn't allocate money to the sports programs. She allowed these garbage ADs to have a job. That was all her fault. She was not in total control, but she allowed the **** show to continue under her watch.

 

[TheMatador]

She was running a university not a football program. She had Miami in the top 40 of all universities. Blaming a university president for a ****** football program (or Nevin Shapiro) is dumb. You think we dominated in the 80s because Tad Foote was some big football booster?

I think we succeeded in '80's despite Tad Foote. He wanted to change the culture and stiffen academic requirements for athletes. I notice that we rarely have academically weak recruits anymore. Maybe the current generation of high school athletes takes academics more seriously.

 

[gabednconfused]

i read the thread title as 'donna shark attack ad'

 

[TheMatador]

He is still in there. He is in the feds so there is a lot less chance of him getting beat up compared to doing state time. He is probably doing fine though. Worst case scenario for him he could just buy protection/get extorted for a few grand a month.

You have some interesting knowledge of prison culture. I don't mean to imply anything. I know very little, fortunately. The only time I've been inside a prison was my first year in law school a graduate fellow at my school's criminal justice clinic needed a witness to go with her while she interviewed an inmate who was probably involved in a crime for which she was representing someone else. I want to Lorton which is a big prison for Washington DC. It was about a bunch of guys on the street who decided to steal a refrigerator from a vacant house. The whole thing was almost comical...the stuff the prisoner said, when the lawyer asked about other participants, and from what I understand, Judge Sirica's frustrated comments at a preliminary hearing. (Sirica's was famous for Watergate.) I really don't know why a federal district Court judge would be hearing a case which dealt with just a garden variety B&E and burglary.

 

[nobeastofburden]

She was great in LOTR's.