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As Ms. Perez told Mr. Najjar, her client had two reasons for
assisting the Bankruptcy Trustee: first, assisting the Bankruptcy Trustee in
recovering money for the victims of Mr. Shapiro’s Ponzi scheme could help reduce
Mr. Shapiro’s sentence and restitution obligation; and second, conducting these
depositions would help Mr. Shapiro get revenge on U. Miami and its studentathletes
and coaches who had turned their back on him
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Bingo. From Page 12 of the report. The NCAA retained a lawyer to aide in "getting revenge" against the subject of its investigation. Should sufficiently establish malicious intent for purposes of filing a lawsuit should we need to.

The NCAA was never just going to roll over and die. And UM's lawyers sure as **** will make sure everything included in the NOA was obtained properly. For our purposes, today's events have eliminated 20% of evidence against us and given us ammunition for a lawsuit if needed. All good things.
 
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DJWilliams55 said:
NOA will prolly arrive within a week.....an expedited review by COI will come thereafter. Patience......let the dog and pony show do its work.
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I think you are right. This is part of them covering their own *ss in the media. Shalalalala has been working on this since news leaked they tainted the investigation
 
DJWilliams55 said:
I don't know why anyone is angry. This is WONDERFUL. You have to understand they still have to go thru the motions because that is the actual process. Other schools would be up in arms if they didn't do that. But make no mistake this is a dog and pony show going forward. There will still be a NOA and a COI hearing but it's pretty much worked out behind the scenes. It's going thru the motions at this point.
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Hope that you are right!
 
@ByTimReynolds
NCAA report also says Perez also wanted to use Luther Campbell's defamation suit against Shapiro as a vehicle for the NCAA to collect info.
 
kostacane said:
DJWilliams55 said:
I don't know why anyone is angry. This is WONDERFUL. You have to understand they still have to go thru the motions because that is the actual process. Other schools would be up in arms if they didn't do that. But make no mistake this is a dog and pony show going forward. There will still be a NOA and a COI hearing but it's pretty much worked out behind the scenes. It's going thru the motions at this point.
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Hope that you are right!
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And after all this, what makes you think that these douche bags who looked for every possible way to ***** us is looking to give us a break??

If we don't strike while the iron is hot and send a warning shot of possible legal action, they will wait for all of this to die down and nail us with as much as they can, a few months from now.
 
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@Manny_Navarro
Emmert: We can proceed with the case. It will be up to COI to determine the validity of the arguments put in front of them. #UM

basically they have a bunch of bs but need to go through the motions
 
This whole case is horse **** at this point. The **** sandwich we have already eaten should be penance enough. Too prolong this further is just ******* ludicrous.
 
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caneworld said:
kostacane said:
DJWilliams55 said:
I don't know why anyone is angry. This is WONDERFUL. You have to understand they still have to go thru the motions because that is the actual process. Other schools would be up in arms if they didn't do that. But make no mistake this is a dog and pony show going forward. There will still be a NOA and a COI hearing but it's pretty much worked out behind the scenes. It's going thru the motions at this point.
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Hope that you are right!
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And after all this, what makes you think that these douche bags who looked for every possible way to ***** us is looking to give us a break??

If we don't strike while the iron is hot and send a warning shot of possible legal action, they will wait for all of this to die down and nail us with as much as they can, a few months from now.
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Because they know there is a ton of potential liability here...including bankruptcy court stuff. There are tons of admissions in the report. There is tons of stuff for lawsuit fodder. It will all be worked out behind the scenes while the process officially goes forward. Dude...even one member of the COI (cremins) criticized the NCAA on this case...before even having a hearing.

Open your eyes and read between the lines. We will get something but it will be quite soft. They have to get something to save face....but it should be quite slight...ie 5 ships total or something in that vicinity...that's TOTAL ships not one year. Maybe a few small recruiting restrictions. The enforcement staff will go out of its way at the hearing to promote just how much UM cooperated and they will water down the NOA when it comes out to ensure a small penalty. Yes it's true they can't control the COI but they can rig it ahead of time to make the charges much less severe and help the opponent by pointing out all the positives the UM staff did. Everyone in the room will know what's going on....this is all nod and wink stuff now.
 
zacklove said:
@Manny_Navarro
Emmert: We can proceed with the case. It will be up to COI to determine the validity of the arguments put in front of them. #UM

basically they have a bunch of bs but need to go through the motions
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See...this is all rigged. The NOA will have its teeth taken out of it upfront so they can only find up to what is charged if that.

Think of it this way if you are only charged with a misdemeanor there is no way a jury can convict you of a felony.
 
From the Report:

"To facilitate communications between the NCAA and Mr. Shapiro, Mr. Johanningmeier purchased a disposable mobile phone and paid for Mr. Shapiro's use of the prison telephone system. Mr. Johanningmeier, in turn, expensed those costs to the NCAA. (Comley; Lach; Johanningmeier; Najjar; Shapiro). We learned that the NCAA had expended approximately $8,200 to fund communications with Mr. Shapiro, including transfers of approximately $4,500 to his prison commissary account from which he pays for communications expenses."

That last sentence drips with technical legal writing. Who wants to be Nevin didnt use the $4500 deposited into his commissary account to pay for phone calls. Thus the vague wording.
 
This from the AP:

The NCAA said Perez offered to use depositions and subpoena power to assist with the case against Miami. The NCAA also said Perez was willing to ask any questions they wanted, but that the enforcement staff was urged by the governing body's legal team not to go forward with the plan to collaborate with Perez.

"We found very clearly the enforcement staff disregarded ... the advice they got from the legal staff," said Kenneth L. Wainstein, the attorney who led the probe that NCAA President Mark Emmert ordered last month.


The question here is why? Why did the enforcement staff clearly disregard the advice not to seek evidence through hiring MEP and subverting the legitimate purposes of the Bankruptcy proceeding? Why?

Gentlemen, you may now start your black hellicopters!


(I think they really felt they needed more evidence.)
 
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Peachycarnahan said:
From the Report:

"To facilitate communications between the NCAA and Mr. Shapiro, Mr. Johanningmeier purchased a disposable mobile phone and paid for Mr. Shapiro's use of the prison telephone system. Mr. Johanningmeier, in turn, expensed those costs to the NCAA. (Comley; Lach; Johanningmeier; Najjar; Shapiro). We learned that the NCAA had expended approximately $8,200 to fund communications with Mr. Shapiro, including transfers of approximately $4,500 to his prison commissary account from which he pays for communications expenses."

That last sentence drips with technical legal writing. Who wants to be Nevin didnt use the $4500 deposited into his commissary account to pay for phone calls. Thus the vague wording.
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For his ****' sake I hope he used that $4500 on Vaseline
 
Peachycarnahan said:
From the Report:

"To facilitate communications between the NCAA and Mr. Shapiro, Mr. Johanningmeier purchased a disposable mobile phone and paid for Mr. Shapiro's use of the prison telephone system. Mr. Johanningmeier, in turn, expensed those costs to the NCAA. (Comley; Lach; Johanningmeier; Najjar; Shapiro). We learned that the NCAA had expended approximately $8,200 to fund communications with Mr. Shapiro, including transfers of approximately $4,500 to his prison commissary account from which he pays for communications expenses."

That last sentence drips with technical legal writing. Who wants to be Nevin didnt use the $4500 deposited into his commissary account to pay for phone calls. Thus the vague wording.
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That's damning isn't it? How can you pay the person who brought the allegations...he is a paid informant.
 
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Commissary is also the fund from which federal inmates buy items (like pastries, and canned fish) which can be used as money, and traded for other less-regulated items. Sooo, let me get this straight....is the NCAA bribing its main witness? Is this what they did?? You, gotta be kidding! Bring it on!! Let's make all this real public....what a story.



Peachycarnahan said:
From the Report:

"To facilitate communications between the NCAA and Mr. Shapiro, Mr. Johanningmeier purchased a disposable mobile phone and paid for Mr. Shapiro's use of the prison telephone system. Mr. Johanningmeier, in turn, expensed those costs to the NCAA. (Comley; Lach; Johanningmeier; Najjar; Shapiro). We learned that the NCAA had expended approximately $8,200 to fund communications with Mr. Shapiro, including transfers of approximately $4,500 to his prison commissary account from which he pays for communications expenses."

That last sentence drips with technical legal writing. Who wants to be Nevin didnt use the $4500 deposited into his commissary account to pay for phone calls. Thus the vague wording.
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zacklove said:
@ByTimReynolds
NCAA report also says Perez also wanted to use Luther Campbell's defamation suit against Shapiro as a vehicle for the NCAA to collect info.
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If you read the report, she actually did use that litigation for that purpose. She served a subpoena on a jewlry store, but refused to turn the records over to the NCAA because she was not being paid, if I recall correctly.
 
NoahZach said:
zacklove said:
@ByTimReynolds
NCAA report also says Perez also wanted to use Luther Campbell's defamation suit against Shapiro as a vehicle for the NCAA to collect info.
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If you read the report, she actually did use that litigation for that purpose. She served a subpoena on a jewlry store, but refused to turn the records over to the NCAA because she was not being paid, if I recall correctly.
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Well! at least someone has standards. LOL
 
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