Does Valentine recommit to UM?

[bobbydigius]

How many decommits have actually recommitted?

CJ Hampton this year a week after he decommitted and Rueben Foster last year after he committed to Auburn and got a tattoo of the team logo on his arm

DVD and Buchanon for us during Randy's regime....

 

[chicanego]

If TV doesnt take the OV here, then this was a straight up $$$ play by L$U. IDGAF what anyone says. You going to tell me that this kid being committed here THIS long, with this close relationship with Hurlie, being a local kid, and supposedly loving the program and all this B.S. and then he's not even going to take an OV?

I can understand him making a tough choice at the end and picking LSU. But for him to cancel his OV here.... that is straight up $$$. What other reason on Earth could there be for him to not even take the visit just to make sure he's making the right decision? Its bullsh*t. This is EXACTLY how the $EC money game works. Also watch for Genron to have the kid on lockdown and not even let him take any calls from UM for the next week if this is true. Same as the surreal Sony situation. Where a kid goes from being a life long fan, to not even answering his phone when we call for no apparent reason.

LMAO, and cats are actually going to say that this whole game is not corrupt as f*ck.

Pick up a **** book and read it from some of the **** players/former recruits and their families mouths. Read the Ricky Seals Jones accounts where the ENTIRE staff at UT told him he and his family would be "take care of for life" if he went there. Where some programs were flat out asking his father "what is it going to take to get him to come here" clearly talking about money. Intermediaries and outside coaches and advisors making offers. Kid was offered SIX figures. $$$ talks and bullsh*t walks in modern college football.

Forget the fact that TV has come out and expressly said that LSU's scheme fits the way he plays.

No, he must have gotten paid.

That may be true, but let's not act like their isn't more to this than simply a recruit preferring one school vs another.

Home
Mom
Playing time
Hurlie

vs.

Scheme
LSU maybe gonna L$U
Genron
Recent success
Recent Defense

plenty of reasons to think he goes to LSU for honest reasons, but plenty of reasons to wonder if it isn't shady

Nobody is naive enough to completely discount the possibility of shady activity.

That being said, let's not forget that this dude committed to us in July, watched us regress as the season dragged out (particularly on defense), and then starts showing interest in LSU (even before the Golden to PSU talk occurred).

For anyone to think this is simply a money play and nothing more, GTFO.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

If TV doesnt take the OV here, then this was a straight up $$$ play by L$U. IDGAF what anyone says. You going to tell me that this kid being committed here THIS long, with this close relationship with Hurlie, being a local kid, and supposedly loving the program and all this B.S. and then he's not even going to take an OV?

I can understand him making a tough choice at the end and picking LSU. But for him to cancel his OV here.... that is straight up $$$. What other reason on Earth could there be for him to not even take the visit just to make sure he's making the right decision? Its bullsh*t. This is EXACTLY how the $EC money game works. Also watch for Genron to have the kid on lockdown and not even let him take any calls from UM for the next week if this is true. Same as the surreal Sony situation. Where a kid goes from being a life long fan, to not even answering his phone when we call for no apparent reason.

LMAO, and cats are actually going to say that this whole game is not corrupt as f*ck.

Pick up a **** book and read it from some of the **** players/former recruits and their families mouths. Read the Ricky Seals Jones accounts where the ENTIRE staff at UT told him he and his family would be "take care of for life" if he went there. Where some programs were flat out asking his father "what is it going to take to get him to come here" clearly talking about money. Intermediaries and outside coaches and advisors making offers. Kid was offered SIX figures. $$$ talks and bullsh*t walks in modern college football.

Forget the fact that TV has come out and expressly said that LSU's scheme fits the way he plays.

No, he must have gotten paid.

That may be true, but let's not act like their isn't more to this than simply a recruit preferring one school vs another.

Home
Mom
Playing time
Hurlie

vs.

Scheme
LSU maybe gonna L$U
Genron
Recent success
Recent Defense

plenty of reasons to think he goes to LSU for honest reasons, but plenty of reasons to wonder if it isn't shady

See, the honest reasons are actually grounded in fact: scheme, recent success of program, recent success of defense, draft picks at DT. You can point to quantifiable statistics or quotes from TV himself.

You really can't point to anything factual that says he is getting paid. It's all speculation and hence a very weak argument.

 

[Angry Ibis]

If TV doesnt take the OV here, then this was a straight up $$$ play by L$U. IDGAF what anyone says. You going to tell me that this kid being committed here THIS long, with this close relationship with Hurlie, being a local kid, and supposedly loving the program and all this B.S. and then he's not even going to take an OV?

I can understand him making a tough choice at the end and picking LSU. But for him to cancel his OV here.... that is straight up $$$. What other reason on Earth could there be for him to not even take the visit just to make sure he's making the right decision? Its bullsh*t. This is EXACTLY how the $EC money game works. Also watch for Genron to have the kid on lockdown and not even let him take any calls from UM for the next week if this is true. Same as the surreal Sony situation. Where a kid goes from being a life long fan, to not even answering his phone when we call for no apparent reason.

LMAO, and cats are actually going to say that this whole game is not corrupt as f*ck.

Pick up a **** book and read it from some of the **** players/former recruits and their families mouths. Read the Ricky Seals Jones accounts where the ENTIRE staff at UT told him he and his family would be "take care of for life" if he went there. Where some programs were flat out asking his father "what is it going to take to get him to come here" clearly talking about money. Intermediaries and outside coaches and advisors making offers. Kid was offered SIX figures. $$$ talks and bullsh*t walks in modern college football.

Forget the fact that TV has come out and expressly said that LSU's scheme fits the way he plays.

No, he must have gotten paid.

That may be true, but let's not act like their isn't more to this than simply a recruit preferring one school vs another.

Home
Mom
Playing time
Hurlie

vs.

Scheme
LSU maybe gonna L$U
Genron
Recent success
Recent Defense

plenty of reasons to think he goes to LSU for honest reasons, but plenty of reasons to wonder if it isn't shady

See, the honest reasons are actually grounded in fact: scheme, recent success of program, recent success of defense, draft picks at DT. You can point to quantifiable statistics or quotes from TV himself.

You really can't point to anything factual that says he is getting paid. It's all speculation and hence a very weak argument.

And most reasonable people would agree in a second.....yet LSU and Genron have at least a perception of foul play that opens the door for speculation.

 

[Angry Ibis]

If TV doesnt take the OV here, then this was a straight up $$$ play by L$U. IDGAF what anyone says. You going to tell me that this kid being committed here THIS long, with this close relationship with Hurlie, being a local kid, and supposedly loving the program and all this B.S. and then he's not even going to take an OV?

I can understand him making a tough choice at the end and picking LSU. But for him to cancel his OV here.... that is straight up $$$. What other reason on Earth could there be for him to not even take the visit just to make sure he's making the right decision? Its bullsh*t. This is EXACTLY how the $EC money game works. Also watch for Genron to have the kid on lockdown and not even let him take any calls from UM for the next week if this is true. Same as the surreal Sony situation. Where a kid goes from being a life long fan, to not even answering his phone when we call for no apparent reason.

LMAO, and cats are actually going to say that this whole game is not corrupt as f*ck.

Pick up a **** book and read it from some of the **** players/former recruits and their families mouths. Read the Ricky Seals Jones accounts where the ENTIRE staff at UT told him he and his family would be "take care of for life" if he went there. Where some programs were flat out asking his father "what is it going to take to get him to come here" clearly talking about money. Intermediaries and outside coaches and advisors making offers. Kid was offered SIX figures. $$$ talks and bullsh*t walks in modern college football.

Forget the fact that TV has come out and expressly said that LSU's scheme fits the way he plays.

No, he must have gotten paid.

That may be true, but let's not act like their isn't more to this than simply a recruit preferring one school vs another.

Home
Mom
Playing time
Hurlie

vs.

Scheme
LSU maybe gonna L$U
Genron
Recent success
Recent Defense

plenty of reasons to think he goes to LSU for honest reasons, but plenty of reasons to wonder if it isn't shady

Nobody is naive enough to completely discount the possibility of shady activity.

That being said, let's not forget that this dude committed to us in July, watched us regress as the season dragged out (particularly on defense), and then starts showing interest in LSU (even before the Golden to PSU talk occurred).

For anyone to think this is simply a money play and nothing more, GTFO.

I don't think everyone thinks it is simply a money run. But I also see this as another version of the I'm willing to give Golden a chance vs. The I hate him and will nitpick everything he does battle.....with some middle of the roaders passing through

 

[WestEndZone]

Recent tweet from Genron

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 2m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff

 

[1jamaicancane]

Recent tweet from Genron

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 2m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 5m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff
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@ManleadingMen kindly exit my mentions. Thank you, and good bye

Cam fired back tho

 

[Problem2]

Recent tweet from Genron

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 2m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff

HE LOVES MIAMI THOUGH

 

[CANE4LIFE]

If TV doesnt take the OV here, then this was a straight up $$$ play by L$U. IDGAF what anyone says. You going to tell me that this kid being committed here THIS long, with this close relationship with Hurlie, being a local kid, and supposedly loving the program and all this B.S. and then he's not even going to take an OV?

I can understand him making a tough choice at the end and picking LSU. But for him to cancel his OV here.... that is straight up $$$. What other reason on Earth could there be for him to not even take the visit just to make sure he's making the right decision? Its bullsh*t. This is EXACTLY how the $EC money game works. Also watch for Genron to have the kid on lockdown and not even let him take any calls from UM for the next week if this is true. Same as the surreal Sony situation. Where a kid goes from being a life long fan, to not even answering his phone when we call for no apparent reason.

LMAO, and cats are actually going to say that this whole game is not corrupt as f*ck.

Pick up a **** book and read it from some of the **** players/former recruits and their families mouths. Read the Ricky Seals Jones accounts where the ENTIRE staff at UT told him he and his family would be "take care of for life" if he went there. Where some programs were flat out asking his father "what is it going to take to get him to come here" clearly talking about money. Intermediaries and outside coaches and advisors making offers. Kid was offered SIX figures. $$$ talks and bullsh*t walks in modern college football.

Forget the fact that TV has come out and expressly said that LSU's scheme fits the way he plays.

No, he must have gotten paid.

Guess you didnt really read what I wrote. I really doesnt have anything to do with him choosing LSU in the end. It has to do with if he cancels his OV here and shuts out our coaches. To me, that would be a HUGE red flag, and something that has happened in many a shady situation before.

I can accept the kid deciding LSU is the best fit for him in the end, but after everything, that he wouldnt even take an OV here? That smells to high ****.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Recent tweet from Genron

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 2m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 5m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff
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Cam fired back tho

Would like to see our guys defend our guys when it is fair.

He ******* when they don't get offers and is now *****ing when they do.

 

[ssj4cane]

People who think Genron doesn't have a hand in this are ******* retarded. He has been a known South Florida dirt bag long before Golden got here. Now if Golden was better at his job there would be a lot less ammo for that POS but that doesn't mean he isn't up to his old tricks.. LSU might not be buying Valentine but they are breaking ole Genron off with his customary runners fee.

 

[Problem2]

I guess people forgot about that ESPN article huh.

Not saying it's not Golden's fault, but lets not make Genron out to be some saint.

 

[CaneDaddy]

If TV doesnt take the OV here, then this was a straight up $$$ play by L$U. IDGAF what anyone says. You going to tell me that this kid being committed here THIS long, with this close relationship with Hurlie, being a local kid, and supposedly loving the program and all this B.S. and then he's not even going to take an OV?

I can understand him making a tough choice at the end and picking LSU. But for him to cancel his OV here.... that is straight up $$$. What other reason on Earth could there be for him to not even take the visit just to make sure he's making the right decision? Its bullsh*t. This is EXACTLY how the $EC money game works. Also watch for Genron to have the kid on lockdown and not even let him take any calls from UM for the next week if this is true. Same as the surreal Sony situation. Where a kid goes from being a life long fan, to not even answering his phone when we call for no apparent reason.

LMAO, and cats are actually going to say that this whole game is not corrupt as f*ck.

Pick up a **** book and read it from some of the **** players/former recruits and their families mouths. Read the Ricky Seals Jones accounts where the ENTIRE staff at UT told him he and his family would be "take care of for life" if he went there. Where some programs were flat out asking his father "what is it going to take to get him to come here" clearly talking about money. Intermediaries and outside coaches and advisors making offers. Kid was offered SIX figures. $$$ talks and bullsh*t walks in modern college football.

Forget the fact that TV has come out and expressly said that LSU's scheme fits the way he plays.

No, he must have gotten paid.

Guess you didnt really read what I wrote. I really doesnt have anything to do with him choosing LSU in the end. It has to do with if he cancels his OV here and shuts out our coaches. To me, that would be a HUGE red flag, and something that has happened in many a shady situation before.

I can accept the kid deciding LSU is the best fit for him in the end, but after everything, that he wouldnt even take an OV here? That smells to high ****.

Why? Maybe LSU told him not to take any more visits or they would pull his offer. Really not that hard to comprehend.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Recent tweet from Genron

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 2m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff

HE LOVES MIAMI THOUGH

Yep. Love is in the air. And because people on here are mad at Coach D's product, they somehow defend this guy as not being bad for Miami.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Recent tweet from Genron

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 2m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff

HE LOVES MIAMI THOUGH

LMAO. Yeah he's just a nice guy looking out for the kids. HE has nothing against UM.

This dude is rotten to the core. Its because of guys like this that the staff is spending so much time in Jersey and other places. People dont want to accept reality in terms of what is going on in So Fla recruiting. This is nothing new and its gotten much much worse. Maybe we are also starting to see why Shannon stopped going to so many So Fla schools except the ones he had a hook into.

 

[1jamaicancane]

Recent tweet from Genron

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 2m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff

Jon Drummond ‏@ManleadingMen 5m
"@UnderwoodSports: Miami handing out offers like they're free popcorn from the Rat, I see" they have to. 2nd rate staff
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Cam Underwood ‏@UnderwoodSports 3m
@ManleadingMen kindly exit my mentions. Thank you, and good bye

Cam fired back tho

Would like to see our guys defend our guys when it is fair.

He ****es when they don't get offers and is now ****ing when they do.

I agree, ****ed up part is there will be some idiots that will agree with Genron right now but this guy is a ******* snake now im ****ed

 

[CANE4LIFE]

If TV doesnt take the OV here, then this was a straight up $$$ play by L$U. IDGAF what anyone says. You going to tell me that this kid being committed here THIS long, with this close relationship with Hurlie, being a local kid, and supposedly loving the program and all this B.S. and then he's not even going to take an OV?

I can understand him making a tough choice at the end and picking LSU. But for him to cancel his OV here.... that is straight up $$$. What other reason on Earth could there be for him to not even take the visit just to make sure he's making the right decision? Its bullsh*t. This is EXACTLY how the $EC money game works. Also watch for Genron to have the kid on lockdown and not even let him take any calls from UM for the next week if this is true. Same as the surreal Sony situation. Where a kid goes from being a life long fan, to not even answering his phone when we call for no apparent reason.

LMAO, and cats are actually going to say that this whole game is not corrupt as f*ck.

Pick up a **** book and read it from some of the **** players/former recruits and their families mouths. Read the Ricky Seals Jones accounts where the ENTIRE staff at UT told him he and his family would be "take care of for life" if he went there. Where some programs were flat out asking his father "what is it going to take to get him to come here" clearly talking about money. Intermediaries and outside coaches and advisors making offers. Kid was offered SIX figures. $$$ talks and bullsh*t walks in modern college football.

Forget the fact that TV has come out and expressly said that LSU's scheme fits the way he plays.

No, he must have gotten paid.

Guess you didnt really read what I wrote. I really doesnt have anything to do with him choosing LSU in the end. It has to do with if he cancels his OV here and shuts out our coaches. To me, that would be a HUGE red flag, and something that has happened in many a shady situation before.

I can accept the kid deciding LSU is the best fit for him in the end, but after everything, that he wouldnt even take an OV here? That smells to high ****.

Why? Maybe LSU told him not to take any more visits or they would pull his offer. Really not that hard to comprehend.

LMFAO. He's not committed to LSU. LSU is DESPERATE for DTs, and thin as ****. Every one of their sites has said TV is at the top of their must get boards right now, and they are going to pull his offer if he takes an OV to the hometown school? COME ON DUDE. Is this real life?

 

[CaneDaddy]

If TV doesnt take the OV here, then this was a straight up $$$ play by L$U. IDGAF what anyone says. You going to tell me that this kid being committed here THIS long, with this close relationship with Hurlie, being a local kid, and supposedly loving the program and all this B.S. and then he's not even going to take an OV?

I can understand him making a tough choice at the end and picking LSU. But for him to cancel his OV here.... that is straight up $$$. What other reason on Earth could there be for him to not even take the visit just to make sure he's making the right decision? Its bullsh*t. This is EXACTLY how the $EC money game works. Also watch for Genron to have the kid on lockdown and not even let him take any calls from UM for the next week if this is true. Same as the surreal Sony situation. Where a kid goes from being a life long fan, to not even answering his phone when we call for no apparent reason.

LMAO, and cats are actually going to say that this whole game is not corrupt as f*ck.

Pick up a **** book and read it from some of the **** players/former recruits and their families mouths. Read the Ricky Seals Jones accounts where the ENTIRE staff at UT told him he and his family would be "take care of for life" if he went there. Where some programs were flat out asking his father "what is it going to take to get him to come here" clearly talking about money. Intermediaries and outside coaches and advisors making offers. Kid was offered SIX figures. $$$ talks and bullsh*t walks in modern college football.

Forget the fact that TV has come out and expressly said that LSU's scheme fits the way he plays.

No, he must have gotten paid.

Guess you didnt really read what I wrote. I really doesnt have anything to do with him choosing LSU in the end. It has to do with if he cancels his OV here and shuts out our coaches. To me, that would be a HUGE red flag, and something that has happened in many a shady situation before.

I can accept the kid deciding LSU is the best fit for him in the end, but after everything, that he wouldnt even take an OV here? That smells to high ****.

Why? Maybe LSU told him not to take any more visits or they would pull his offer. Really not that hard to comprehend.

LMFAO. He's not committed to LSU. LSU is DESPERATE for DTs, and thin as ****. Every one of their sites has said TV is at the top of their must get boards right now, and they are going to pull his offer if he takes an OV to the hometown school? COME ON DUDE. Is this real life?

Jesus Christ, how naïve can you be? The kid DOES NOT WANT TO COME TO MIAMI. Its not about money. He obviously wants to go to LSU so its pretty easy for him to just blow off Miami to appease the coaches.

 

[MedleyCane]

If TV doesnt take the OV here, then this was a straight up $$$ play by L$U. IDGAF what anyone says. You going to tell me that this kid being committed here THIS long, with this close relationship with Hurlie, being a local kid, and supposedly loving the program and all this B.S. and then he's not even going to take an OV?

I can understand him making a tough choice at the end and picking LSU. But for him to cancel his OV here.... that is straight up $$$. What other reason on Earth could there be for him to not even take the visit just to make sure he's making the right decision? Its bullsh*t. This is EXACTLY how the $EC money game works. Also watch for Genron to have the kid on lockdown and not even let him take any calls from UM for the next week if this is true. Same as the surreal Sony situation. Where a kid goes from being a life long fan, to not even answering his phone when we call for no apparent reason.

LMAO, and cats are actually going to say that this whole game is not corrupt as f*ck.

Pick up a **** book and read it from some of the **** players/former recruits and their families mouths. Read the Ricky Seals Jones accounts where the ENTIRE staff at UT told him he and his family would be "take care of for life" if he went there. Where some programs were flat out asking his father "what is it going to take to get him to come here" clearly talking about money. Intermediaries and outside coaches and advisors making offers. Kid was offered SIX figures. $$$ talks and bullsh*t walks in modern college football.

Forget the fact that TV has come out and expressly said that LSU's scheme fits the way he plays.

No, he must have gotten paid.

That may be true, but let's not act like their isn't more to this than simply a recruit preferring one school vs another.

Home
Mom
Playing time
Hurlie

vs.

Scheme
LSU maybe gonna L$U
Genron
Recent success
Recent Defense

plenty of reasons to think he goes to LSU for honest reasons, but plenty of reasons to wonder if it isn't shady

See, the honest reasons are actually grounded in fact: scheme, recent success of program, recent success of defense, draft picks at DT. You can point to quantifiable statistics or quotes from TV himself.

You really can't point to anything factual that says he is getting paid. It's all speculation and hence a very weak argument.

Not this shiite again.
Seriously, if you think l$U doesn't buy players through street agents, then you're as naive as a 10-year old.
Stick to following the Heat.

 

[Problem2]

"For example, former South Florida Express assistant Jon Drummond told "Outside the Lines" and others that he was the go-between for Express players and college coaches. That was before head coach Brett Goetz said Drummond would not be returning next season, because he violated a "Code of Conduct" Goetz makes all coaches sign. Goetz's "Code of Conduct" essentially states that his coaches cannot use their relationships with prospects for a profit.

Drummond told ESPN that "everyone knows coaches are being paid something extra to bring recruits to campus" while denying he's one of them"

LOL NOTHING SHADY AT ALL