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Does it generally take more than 1 year to turn around a sinking program?

Liquidstoke said:
Just asking for a friend....

Because it seems the belief system at CIS is that unless you turn a sinking program around in 8 months, you are automatically a **** coach who needs to be fired immediately...

I've posted this several times and NOT ONE DIAZ HATER had the NUTS to address it honestly with me:

Nick Saban's HC coaching career started this way:

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Forget the 1990 Toledo because he took over a "loaded" and previously well coached team for that conference.

Michigan State is where you see the history of a "young HC" taking over a pathetic program. It took him FIVE years to recruit, make coaching adjustments and improve his craft before he achieved a winning record.

Now let's look at his time at LSU:

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Year 1 was ok...

Year 2 looks great-- but he lost a bunch of seniors to the draft in 2001 (CANES WIN BIG that year anyways)

Year 3--- HOLY ****-- the CIS haters would have been flying "FIRE SABAN" banners for an 8-5 yr for sure... But this is what happens when you lose experienced seniors to the draft...

Reality and true history of Nick Saban -- i hate the guy... but you can't deny he's the best HC in the modern era of CFB.

If Saban needed FIVE years to establish his FIRST winning season at Michigan State... to eventually become the GOAT of CFB HC's...

How is it that Diaz needs to be fired in his FIRST year at Miami?

Don't throw your mindless hate.... give me some LOGICAL arguments based on some FACTS.

If you hate Diaz, show my with some facts how that position is justified against the example of Nick Saban in his first 5 years at a young HC...
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Saban wasn’t coaching in the ACC Coastal. And teams usually didn’t have as many patsies then to pad their schedules.
 
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Liquidstoke said:
Just asking for a friend....

Because it seems the belief system at CIS is that unless you turn a sinking program around in 8 months, you are automatically a **** coach who needs to be fired immediately...

I've posted this several times and NOT ONE DIAZ HATER had the NUTS to address it honestly with me:

Nick Saban's HC coaching career started this way:

View attachment 105720

Forget the 1990 Toledo because he took over a "loaded" and previously well coached team for that conference.

Michigan State is where you see the history of a "young HC" taking over a pathetic program. It took him FIVE years to recruit, make coaching adjustments and improve his craft before he achieved a winning record.

Now let's look at his time at LSU:

View attachment 105721

Year 1 was ok...

Year 2 looks great-- but he lost a bunch of seniors to the draft in 2001 (CANES WIN BIG that year anyways)

Year 3--- HOLY ****-- the CIS haters would have been flying "FIRE SABAN" banners for an 8-5 yr for sure... But this is what happens when you lose experienced seniors to the draft...

Reality and true history of Nick Saban -- i hate the guy... but you can't deny he's the best HC in the modern era of CFB.

If Saban needed FIVE years to establish his FIRST winning season at Michigan State... to eventually become the GOAT of CFB HC's...

How is it that Diaz needs to be fired in his FIRST year at Miami?

Don't throw your mindless hate.... give me some LOGICAL arguments based on some FACTS.

If you hate Diaz, show my with some facts how that position is justified against the example of Nick Saban in his first 5 years at a young HC...
Click to expand...

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Liquidstoke said:
Just asking for a friend....

Because it seems the belief system at CIS is that unless you turn a sinking program around in 8 months, you are automatically a **** coach who needs to be fired immediately...

I've posted this several times and NOT ONE DIAZ HATER had the NUTS to address it honestly with me:

Nick Saban's HC coaching career started this way:

View attachment 105720

Forget the 1990 Toledo because he took over a "loaded" and previously well coached team for that conference.

Michigan State is where you see the history of a "young HC" taking over a pathetic program. It took him FIVE years to recruit, make coaching adjustments and improve his craft before he achieved a winning record.

Now let's look at his time at LSU:

View attachment 105721

Year 1 was ok...

Year 2 looks great-- but he lost a bunch of seniors to the draft in 2001 (CANES WIN BIG that year anyways)

Year 3--- HOLY ****-- the CIS haters would have been flying "FIRE SABAN" banners for an 8-5 yr for sure... But this is what happens when you lose experienced seniors to the draft...

Reality and true history of Nick Saban -- i hate the guy... but you can't deny he's the best HC in the modern era of CFB.

If Saban needed FIVE years to establish his FIRST winning season at Michigan State... to eventually become the GOAT of CFB HC's...

How is it that Diaz needs to be fired in his FIRST year at Miami?

Don't throw your mindless hate.... give me some LOGICAL arguments based on some FACTS.

If you hate Diaz, show my with some facts how that position is justified against the example of Nick Saban in his first 5 years at a young HC...
Click to expand...

Generally the guy who helped sink it doesn’t turn it around.
 
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