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Does anyone know the current statuts of the Arky State vs. The U litigation?

Poptimus said:
If I recall correctly, every negotiated provision that involved striking out template language was done in Arkansas State’s favor (such as striking out Florida as the governing law). That said, I’d be surprised if UM doesn’t win this in Miami-Dade circuit court. It’d be about as stunning as when Willie Falcon and Sal Magluta were originally found not guilty.
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They subsequently found that a juror or two were paid off in the Willie and Sal case. Just saying.

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TheOriginalCane said:
They subsequently found that a juror or two were paid off in the Willie and Sal case. Just saying.

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Yep, and that's exactly the type of thing I'd suspect if Miami were to lose this case in Miami-Dade circuit court (if it's even a jury trial). It'd be about that far fetched.
 
Here is the latest on the UM / Arkansas State lawsuits.

The Miami judge did not rule on Arkansas State's motion to dismiss.
Instead, the Miami judge and the Arkansas judge handling the parallel matter communicated with each other (apparently in an effort to facilitate an expeditious cost effective resolution of these lawsuits).
And, the bottom line is that the parties will now first mediate this dispute before year end.

I'm putting in a legal crystal ball in favor of settlement before or at mediation ... lol ...;)
 
Arkansas State fan here, but I have all my teeth. Interesting reading the thread here.

I'm genuinely curious and not looking to mock anyone or act like the hurricane didn't really suck for you guys - but for those of you who don't think Arkansas State has a case here... why?

We had mutual open dates sooner than 2024 & 2025 but your AD didn't want to schedule it then.

If the game isn't returned, then Miami got a home money game for 300K. Whereas, we just received 1.7 Million from Alabama, and will get 1.9 Million from Georgia.

In addition, Arkansas State lost a home game - and a game in general. The estimated economic impact was well into the millions.

And at the end of the day, it's not that Miam couldn't play the game - no one disputes that. They chose not to. I'm not arguing that decision.

I'm just making the point...

Do you guys not see this from our side a bit too?
 
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docpoco said:
Arkansas State fan here, but I have all my teeth. Interesting reading the thread here.

I'm genuinely curious and not looking to mock anyone or act like the hurricane didn't really suck for you guys - but for those of you who don't think Arkansas State has a case here... why?

We had mutual open dates sooner than 2024 & 2025 but your AD didn't want to schedule it then.

If the game isn't returned, then Miami got a home money game for 300K. Whereas, we just received 1.7 Million from Alabama, and will get 1.9 Million from Georgia.

In addition, Arkansas State lost a home game - and a begin. The estimated economic impact was well into the millions.

And at the end of the day, it's not that Miam couldn't play the game - no one disputes that. They chose not to. I'm not arguing that decision.

I'm just making the point...

Do you guys not see this from our side a bit too?
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Go fvck yourself.
 
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Oh well, I don't know what I was expecting coming here.
Thanks for reminding why I enjoyed that LSU beatdown so much.

Look forward to coming back after Miami pays up in court. Y'all will be a pleasant bunch.
 
docpoco said:
The hurricane sucks but I think its interesting that you still think Miami has no obligation on their end. Just a bargain home game.
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I believe as a parent, grand parent, canes alumni and someone who has lived through many hurricanes as a kid, and only one conclusion can be drawn and that is the safety of the kid. Obviously, with all the cancellations for the hurricanes this week, the rest of the world thinks along my lines.

By the way ASU is a tenant of which I am part of the landlord, so I have asked and received opinions from some of those at the University, most of which do not feel as you do. I guess we will all know when the case comes to disposition.
 
docpoco said:
Arkansas State fan here, but I have all my teeth. Interesting reading the thread here.

I'm genuinely curious and not looking to mock anyone or act like the hurricane didn't really suck for you guys - but for those of you who don't think Arkansas State has a case here... why?

We had mutual open dates sooner than 2024 & 2025 but your AD didn't want to schedule it then.

If the game isn't returned, then Miami got a home money game for 300K. Whereas, we just received 1.7 Million from Alabama, and will get 1.9 Million from Georgia.

In addition, Arkansas State lost a home game - and a game in general. The estimated economic impact was well into the millions.

And at the end of the day, it's not that Miam couldn't play the game - no one disputes that. They chose not to. I'm not arguing that decision.

I'm just making the point...

Do you guys not see this from our side a bit too?
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I believe the language for rescheduling was kind of vague correct? So what is it you guys have against waiting for the dates that were asked by Miami? I know you want the home game and money earlier, but do you think it will be in less in a couple of years?

As far as feeling that there were mutual dates earlier that worked for both I am not sure how much we can say that is true. Maybe there were no announced games on certain weeks but does that mean that Miami had not already agreed or was working with other teams on those dates previously? Maybe also would prefer to maintain a certain strength of schedule each year to help with playoff hopes and with bowl eligibility? So while there might have been open dates earlier it would hurt Miami to schedule those instead of a higher level school.

I would also believe the lack of professionalism your school showed in trying to blackmail publicly through the media does not help in wanting to be more flexible in the negotiations. I seem to remember your school demanding the game be played regardless on that date while the entire state was being put in a state of disaster.

Would you also not agree that you guys even getting a home game was an oddity that seemingly only this schools previous administration would agree to? It would seem to me that if this home game was this important to you guys and such a windfall that you would want more in the future? Do you think the best method to get Miami and other big football programs interested in this is to (A) work with the program and do what you can to accommodate for it or (B) start blasting the other program publicly through the media and try and pressure and blackmail for a game to be played during a natural disaster? It really seems like the way you and App State have handle things that this would put any progress for your schools and other of their status to have more of these games even further at zero.
 
Then there was the case of WHY Miami is playing in Toledo. Well, according to the stipulation of the contract between Miami and Toledo, Miami COULD HAVE bought it's way of Saturday's game. But, Miami didn't desire to pay the " 750,000.00 dollars " buyout. Again, Miami plays these home and away series games with Non-Power 5 schools because they probably don't want to pay 1.5 million, or more, for a " one time " home game. Akin to other big revenue football programs. Enter the Cornsucker's paying " $ 1,800.000.00 dollars " for a home game against TINY Akron U., and with no trip to Akron, Ohio. Heck, Ohio St. paid TINY Army TWO MILLION dollars for a once in a life time game against Army. So, do U think Miami would pay that kind of money to schedule a scrimmage game against New Mexico St., or some other bottom 25 university?
 
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Heck, I just learned that Toledo played mighty Ohio St. in a once- in- a- lifetime game. And Toledo was paid THREE MILLION DOLLARS by Ohio St.! But that game was played back in 2009 in Cleveland, which makes it a de facto neutral site game. Again, the big revenue football programs PAY BIG BUCKS for one time home games, and I believe Miami just can't afford to pay Texas San Antonio, for example, $ 1.2 million dollars or more for a one time home game at Hard Rock. Thus all these home- and- away games with the likes of Arkansas St., FIU, Toledo, Temple, etc., etc.
 
docpoco said:
Oh well, I don't know what I was expecting coming here.
Thanks for reminding why I enjoyed that LSU beatdown so much.

Look forward to coming back after Miami pays up in court. Y'all will be a pleasant bunch.
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B**ch *** bragging about another team W. Sounds like a beta that records his wife getting cucked by two dudes at the same time. What the *** has Hillbilly State done?
 
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