Dmoney observation of the year

[supersaiyanshel]

We can do to Alabama just how they used to do us during the Saban glory years. Go right in there and pluck Top 10 talent right out of the state. Deboer and the Bama GM are on some USC type, hardline ish and its rubbing alot of kids the wrong way.

 

[Dwinstitles]

More importantly the myth of locking down SFLA isn't the only focus. To many coaches have come here believing that we need to have a roster full of Florida boys. National recruiting was always the answer.

facts

If you focus and think the best talent comes from one place, you wont have the most talent

 

[caneingville]

I think the answer was "pay more for coaches" and "pay the players without fear of a CNN investigation."

One more thing I would add to that...have conference financial backing and support. We got part of the way there with the money we earned last year.

 

[lucius superbus]

The prior coaches were a little different because we had no ability to recruit nationally. They lacked the recruiting chops, the bag money, or both. So the national guys we got were mostly leftovers who played even worse than the local guys.

The reason the local misses hurt so much back then is that they were low-hanging fruit. Now, we can get anybody. And when we're choosing from a position of strength, there's still a ton of value in local three stars like Malachi Toney, Ahmad Moten and OJ Frederique.

Mike a bit off topic but how the hel does the 2024 Florida high school player of the year (MT) only get 3 stars?

 

[Combo]

To me, locking down South Florida doesn’t mean ignoring national elites. It just means that kids like Toney, Fletcher and Bain stay home.

And if we’re really locking down South Florida, Jeremiah Smith and Fernando Mendoza are holding up number six in orange and green.

Yup. It’s not an either or thing. You can do both. Our best teams have had lots of national guys but also a decent share of South Florida guys.

And you’re always going to lose out on some top local prospects. Even during Butch’s and Jimmy’s runs we lost highly regarded South Florida guys.

 

[Cuddlefish]

 

[Cajuncane]

To me, locking down South Florida doesn’t mean ignoring national elites. It just means that kids like Toney, Fletcher and Bain stay home.

And if we’re really locking down South Florida, Jeremiah Smith and Fernando Mendoza are holding up number six in orange and green.

Might have been #7 cause talking about mights and maybe’s if we might have or maybe have had close to the D in ‘24 when Cam was here there’s a great chance#6 would have come that year..

 

[Arehel]

On today’s show, DMoney was talking about yesterday’s 2 commits and how they’re two highly rated players from Alabama and North Carolina and how these are two players who would’ve lined up for Alabama and Clemson a few years ago when they were playing for National Championships.

It kind of put it in perspective how much we’ve upgraded the talent.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, look who was the OL coach and Recruiting coordinator in the beginning of the Alabama dynasty with Nick Saban.

 

[k9cane]

Miami: Locally known,....internationally respected. The National Brand...

 

[Ispyin]

To me, locking down South Florida doesn’t mean ignoring national elites. It just means that kids like Toney, Fletcher and Bain stay home.

And if we’re really locking down South Florida, Jeremiah Smith and Fernando Mendoza are holding up number six in orange and green.

Totally agree the good balance that you need. Though I would also say you still wanna keep your local feeder schools happy and it seems like we may have an issue with one or two still at times

 

[Ispyin]

One more thing I would add to that...have conference financial backing and support. We got part of the way there with the money we earned last year.

Yes, the one of the things we got we won’t be able to get again since the way the playoff revenue is handled changes going forward. And that’s not about the ACC. It’s that the Big Ten and SEC get way bigger share per team regardless of participation.

 

[caneingville]

Yes, the one of the things we got we won’t be able to get again since the way the playoff revenue is handled changes going forward. And that’s not about the ACC. It’s that the Big Ten and SEC get way bigger share per team regardless of participation.

Right, and that's why we all know we need to move.

 

[E1k]

Mike a bit off topic but how the hel does the 2024 Florida high school player of the year (MT) only get 3 stars?

Reclassified and measurables i guess. Usually if a player has the freshman season he had in sfla they would automatically be a 5star early then maybe drop off late

 

[Angry Ibis]

I think the answer was always an administration that actually cared about and put priority on the football program . Those things you mentioned are the byproduct of that shift .

It’s all some of us were yelling about on these boards for years , finally manifested .

Those Mother****ing Mopes

 

[bdub2284]

I think you always have to recruit the elite local talent, but the great thing about being a national brand is if the local guys don't want any part of being Canes, then Mario & Company will go across the country and find guys that do.

 

[MedleyCane]

It was the slide at Clempsun

True story.
When you examine any team that has risen to elite status, it always comes at the cost of nearby programs and/or fellow conference teams.
I was an undergrad at Maryland, the Terps had some pretty good teams under Bobby Ross. They had a lot of players from east coast and Mid-Atlantic who were overlooked by the NDs, Ohio States, and especially StatePenn.
When Syracuse, and the Virginia teams improved, it came at a cost to Maryland.
Look at Nebraska during the early 2000s when other Texas and Midwest programs started picking off talent from their traditional recruiting grounds or USC/UCLA when Colorado under McCartney and UW under Don James started raiding their home state.
Clemson is undergoing similar issues.
For awhile they were grabbing a lot of talent in the Carolinas, nearby Georgia and North Florida.
Which is why I reject those who say we need programs like fsu and uf to be good again.

 

[MedleyCane]

I think you always have to recruit the elite local talent, but the great thing about being a national brand is if the local guys don't want any part of being Canes, then Mario & Company will go across the country and find guys that do.

Exactly.
Under previous coaches we focused on certain local stars who had us wait until signing day before they made their decisions.
Not anymore.
Mario doesn't wait.
You're either with us early or he moves on.

 

[MedleyCane]

Yup. I was really 50/50 on Mario but just the overall investment was all I cared about. We were dangerously close to being left behind and we went all in. Mario turning things around is literally the best case scenario and now years like 2022 can be set aside

Mario came into UM with guarantees from the people with the money.
Otherwise, he would have remained at Oregon or move on to another big time program, and he came at a perfect time with the advent of NIL and portal landscape.
To their credit Manny Diaz, Mel Tucker (Mich State), even Norvell and a couple of other coaches showed that the portal could be a viable tool to transform rosters. Of course, in their cases, they were or haven't been able to maintain level of success.