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DMoney said:
It’s not school money. That would be like capping the money Travis Kelce can get from Bud Light.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but this thing hasn’t even passed Congress yet correct? And we all know it will get destroyed in the court, so why are we worried about it?
 
NicKane said:
Correct me if I’m wrong but this thing hasn’t even passed Congress yet correct? And we all know it will get destroyed in the court, so why are we worried about it?
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Congress can grant a legal safe harbor. College Gameday is free PR for this scam, and the NCAA has invested millions of dollars in lobbyists. They are all working to squeeze this scam through.
 
DMoney said:
Congress can grant a legal safe harbor. College Gameday is free PR for this scam, and the NCAA has invested millions of dollars in lobbyists. They are all working to squeeze this scam through.
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Hopefully congress see’s right through this BS and realizes the law is the law and you can’t limit NIL.
 
I said when all this started the NCAA was in such a hurry to get these kids paid and not coming from their profits that they caused a runaway train heading towards a brick wall”. So their great idea was NIL.

The toothpaste is out of the tube , shut up and let the kids make their cash. This game is, was and always has been filthy, it’s like working in a casino.

Fact is nobody cared when the money was trading hands illegally , but now it’s a problem?
 
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I'd need an attorney to understand the rules, regulations, impacts, and hidden consequences of this stuff.

If only the OP was from an attorney who also is involved in the collective for NIL to help us understand things more.

Alas...
 
Generally speaking - collective bargaining protects those union employees with tenure - which of course doesnt apply - no one there is limitations on NIL - zero chance
 
305407cane said:
Total bs. And on another note. College gameday shouldn’t be talking sports politics. Leave that to the other weekday shows. Talk football and feel good stories and interviews with the coaches and players. That’s it. That show has gone downhill
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Facts
As kids we ain’t give a **** about that. As teens we ain’t give a **** about that. As an adult I didn’t give a **** about that. As an old head I still don’t give a **** tbh. They throw that **** in everything now so soft bruh, all people do is cry now
 
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Miami04 said:
If you’re looking at this as a sport. There is no sport in the world where you can change teams 8 times in 4 years.

I personally believe they should go back to a player having to sit out a year if they transfer. This would calm down the poaching of players. There should be emphasis placed on recruiting and choosing a school. There are zero consequences for players now.

I’m all for them making all the money they can. But I hate how a school like Pitt can recruit a player like Addison and develop him and then he just goes to USC because they tamper behind the scenes.

I don’t know what the solution is, maybe 2 year “contacts” or something else.
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Coaches should sit out a year too then when they get a new job
 
DMoney said:
The cap on revenue sharing is different than the NIL clearinghouse. The former may make sense in a model similar to the NFL, but it isn’t being collectively bargained.

The latter is complete BS. Collectives are different than athletic department revenue. The NCAA wants midwit, bottom-of-their class lawyers in Indianapolis to control arm’s length transactions between third-parties and adult athletes.
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I can’t see any cap on NIL. Just doesn’t seem like something that would hold up in court.
 
305407cane said:
Total bs. And on another note. College gameday shouldn’t be talking sports politics. Leave that to the other weekday shows. Talk football and feel good stories and interviews with the coaches and players. That’s it. That show has gone downhill
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💯. The FOX college football show is better now anyway. I love Herbie but I won’t subject myself to their woke programming. ESPN loves men competing in women’s sports. Fing freaks!!!!!!!
 
Free market will determine how much is too much.

NCAA has input on what's basically a "cap," then the Alabama's and Georgia's will again be able to play the home bag game once again while everyone else plays more or less by the rules.

I knew Saban was done the day the NIL game became legal. It was just a matter of time.
 
Like some others have stated - I think NIL needs to be somehow separated from transfer rules - and there can be a “clean” way to do it. I like the idea of one free transfer to let kids maximize their profitability from NIL if they think they can do that - but then need to sit a year if they transfer a second time. I’m fine with keeping some loopholes in place such as coaching changes, family situations, jumping from G5 to P4 (in Ward’s situation) etc. as long as it does not get abused.
 
DMoney said:
The crew basically spit the NCAA company line on the House Settlement. Nick Saban, the biggest cheater in history and close friend of former NCAA President Mark Emmert, said there should be a cap on revenue sharing and an NCAA clearinghouse to make sure NIL deals are fair market value.

Here’s the truth about the settlement: the players are going to make less money than they do now, and an incompetent, corrupt NCAA bureaucracy is going to grow larger and more powerful.

Does anybody think the NCAA knows anything about “fair market value?” They are as efficient and impressive as the local DMV. They’re historically corrupt and criminal. Why are we giving them more regulatory power and responsibility?

There can be no limit on NIL. It’s illegal and will get destroyed in Court. The only way this gets through is if the propaganda campaign and lobbyist money influences Capitol Hill. Anybody with a voice needs to expose this scam.
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You are right on all points and the US Supreme Court has already said it is unconstitutional to cap how much money a person can make on the NIL.

Salary, and medical benefits can be collectively bargained to any number the parties agree on, but NIL is a completely different animal. Any cap on NIL will be struck down by the US Supreme Court and will be ANOTHER in a long line of dumb cases created by the NC2A.
 
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canesfanmpls said:
Like some others have stated - I think NIL needs to be somehow separated from transfer rules - and there can be a “clean” way to do it. I like the idea of one free transfer to let kids maximize their profitability from NIL if they think they can do that - but then need to sit a year if they transfer a second time. I’m fine with keeping some loopholes in place such as coaching changes, family situations, jumping from G5 to P4 (in Ward’s situation) etc. as long as it does not get abused.
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I agree with you but the problem is one federal court has already struck down the 1-time transfer with no penalty because the NC2A could not articulate a reason for the rule other than trying to limit it player/employee movement. Courts simply cannot uphold such a rule because the rule does not exist anywhere else in society for any other profession. Courts are increasingly striking down non-compete clauses and this 1-time free transfer rule effectively works like a non-complete.
 
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DMoney said:
The cap on revenue sharing is different than the NIL clearinghouse. The former may make sense in a model similar to the NFL, but it isn’t being collectively bargained.

The latter is complete BS. Collectives are different than athletic department revenue. The NCAA wants midwit, bottom-of-their class lawyers in Indianapolis to control arm’s length transactions between third-parties and adult athletes.
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Keep educating the people. This is perfect.
 
the storm said:
Herbie went down the road with politics when he the bashed UM administration a few years ago. Inflated egos and now Saban will be on weekly pushing the SEC at every turn.

Also, when you hire the McAfee’s of the world you’ve lost credibility. He sounds like he’s drunk as usual.
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whats wrong with Mcafee? he offends you? you don't agree with him? this is what finally lost credibility of ESPN for you? Mind you, I don't watch any of it and i havent for at least a decade. so what got your feelings hurt?
 
AtlAtty said:
I agree with you but the problem is one federal court has already struck down the 1-time transfer with no penalty because the NC2A could not articulate a reason for the rule other than trying to limit it player/employee movement. Courts simply cannot uphold such a rule because the rule does not exist anywhere else in society for any other profession. Courts are increasingly striking down non-compete clauses and this 1-time free transfer rule effectively works like a non-complete.
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I can’t disagree with anything you said and I am all for the non-compete stuff. That being said - there has to be a clean way to do it - they just have to get creative. The current transfer environment could hypothetically be viewed as a detriment to fair competition and the rise of monopolies in college athletics. Like I said earlier - I’m all for NIL being unlimited and one free transfer to maximize value etc.
 
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