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Disgusting discussion on Gameday today

DMoney said:
The crew basically spit the NCAA company line on the House Settlement. Nick Saban, the biggest cheater in history and close friend of former NCAA President Mark Emmert, said there should be a cap on revenue sharing and an NCAA clearinghouse to make sure NIL deals are fair market value.

Here’s the truth about the settlement: the players are going to make less money than they do now, and an incompetent, corrupt NCAA bureaucracy is going to grow larger and more powerful.

Does anybody think the NCAA knows anything about “fair market value?” They are as efficient and impressive as the local DMV. They’re historically corrupt and criminal. Why are we giving them more regulatory power and responsibility?

There can be no limit on NIL. It’s illegal and will get destroyed in Court. The only way this gets through is if the propaganda campaign and lobbyist money influences Capitol Hill. Anybody with a voice needs to expose this scam.
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These hacks want to lay the groundwork to get their under-the-table cheating syndicate back up and running. The playing field is currently even and they're getting smoked.
 
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DMoney said:
The crew basically spit the NCAA company line on the House Settlement. Nick Saban, the biggest cheater in history and close friend of former NCAA President Mark Emmert, said there should be a cap on revenue sharing and an NCAA clearinghouse to make sure NIL deals are fair market value.

Here’s the truth about the settlement: the players are going to make less money than they do now, and an incompetent, corrupt NCAA bureaucracy is going to grow larger and more powerful.

Does anybody think the NCAA knows anything about “fair market value?” They are as efficient and impressive as the local DMV. They’re historically corrupt and criminal. Why are we giving them more regulatory power and responsibility?

There can be no limit on NIL. It’s illegal and will get destroyed in Court. The only way this gets through is if the propaganda campaign and lobbyist money influences Capitol Hill. Anybody with a voice needs to expose this scam.
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Yeah it's absurd on its face.

Fair market value: By definition is the amount a willing buyer and seller agree to in an open market.

Not fair market value: The amount a group of NCAA bureaucrats think is proper.

The only way to arrive at Fair Market Value is allow the Market to set the amount.

Agree it gets destroyed by the courts unless collective bargaining becomes part of the process. No legal basis for the proposition that one group operating as a collective can enforce terms on a second group that does not enjoy the same collective bargaining power.
 
I stopped listening to these pregame talking heads years ago they spew mostly BS to get a few clicks.
 
DMoney said:
The crew basically spit the NCAA company line on the House Settlement. Nick Saban, the biggest cheater in history and close friend of former NCAA President Mark Emmert, said there should be a cap on revenue sharing and an NCAA clearinghouse to make sure NIL deals are fair market value.

Here’s the truth about the settlement: the players are going to make less money than they do now, and an incompetent, corrupt NCAA bureaucracy is going to grow larger and more powerful.

Does anybody think the NCAA knows anything about “fair market value?” They are as efficient and impressive as the local DMV. They’re historically corrupt and criminal. Why are we giving them more regulatory power and responsibility?

There can be no limit on NIL. It’s illegal and will get destroyed in Court. The only way this gets through is if the propaganda campaign and lobbyist money influences Capitol Hill. Anybody with a voice needs to expose this
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No Taxation Without Representation

This shït smells familiar. These lecherous vampires need to be shown the door and free market principles should dictate legislation now not bow to it.

Did you expect anything less from these muertos.
 
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Y’all are trim for even watching woke sports programming. No surprise these commies want to cap pay. That’s a socialist policy. If y’all want to watch a channel that supports chicks with ****s, god bless y’all.
 
1. Why shouldn't they be discussing NIL and direct payments from the schools to their players? It is literally the driving force of college football at this time and it is a show about......college football. You may disagree with their stances, but to expect them to just ignore it is ridiculous. You think the NFL pregame shows wouldn't talk about new deals between the NFL and the players' union?

2. Yes, free market principles should prevail.....if this was a for-profit industry without government funding and oversight involved. These schools get federal funding, treated as non-profits with the various advantages they get, and are beholden to Title IX rules. This isn't the NFL. Now, will the superconference form and football programs separate from their tax-exempt, non-profit institutions into separate for-profit organizations? Most likely. Until then, it's not the free market.

3. Even if they do become for-profit entities, the idea that there would be no regulation at all is preposterous. None of the major professional leagues are set up that way. Why do you think college football would be?
 
Folks always want to control how much money someone else makes but they’ll blow a fuse if someone tried to do it to them. The NIL market will correct itself. It won’t be overnight.
And no college athletes can’t transfer whenever they want, there are windows for that. They can’t just up and transfer during the season.
 
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Dhatguy said:
Folks always want to control how much money someone else makes but they’ll blow a fuse if someone tried to do it to them. The NIL market will correct itself. It won’t be overnight.
And no college athletes can’t transfer whenever they want, there are windows for that. They can’t just up and transfer during the season.
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How many guys have we seen mysteriously quit playing during a season because they know in December they're taking their talents to........? Bowl season is now a joke as well in part because of it.

Yeah, there are windows, but if the guys aren't playing, are they really still on your team?
 
DMoney said:
The crew basically spit the NCAA company line on the House Settlement. Nick Saban, the biggest cheater in history and close friend of former NCAA President Mark Emmert, said there should be a cap on revenue sharing and an NCAA clearinghouse to make sure NIL deals are fair market value.

Here’s the truth about the settlement: the players are going to make less money than they do now, and an incompetent, corrupt NCAA bureaucracy is going to grow larger and more powerful.

Does anybody think the NCAA knows anything about “fair market value?” They are as efficient and impressive as the local DMV. They’re historically corrupt and criminal. Why are we giving them more regulatory power and responsibility?

There can be no limit on NIL. It’s illegal and will get destroyed in Court. The only way this gets through is if the propaganda campaign and lobbyist money influences Capitol Hill. Anybody with a voice needs to expose this scam.
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If its on the open market and someone makes an offer, it's fair market value lol.
If there is a house for sale for $200k and that is the most I can offer, but then someone offers $225k, that's the new fair value, and I lose out on the house....

What the NCAA needs to do is limit the portal windows so that players aren't trying to portal multiple times a year.

But Unless there is a CBA, there can be no cap.

CFB just needs the top 40 teams to break off the NCAA and allow all the conferences to go back to how they were.
 
CaneinBroward said:
1. Why shouldn't they be discussing NIL and direct payments from the schools to their players? It is literally the driving force of college football at this time and it is a show about......college football. You may disagree with their stances, but to expect them to just ignore it is ridiculous. You think the NFL pregame shows wouldn't talk about new deals between the NFL and the players' union?

2. Yes, free market principles should prevail.....if this was a for-profit industry without government funding and oversight involved. These schools get federal funding, treated as non-profits with the various advantages they get, and are beholden to Title IX rules. This isn't the NFL. Now, will the superconference form and football programs separate from their tax-exempt, non-profit institutions into separate for-profit organizations? Most likely. Until then, it's not the free market.

3. Even if they do become for-profit entities, the idea that there would be no regulation at all is preposterous. None of the major professional leagues are set up that way. Why do you think college football would be?
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The issue involves US anti-trust law. And US anti-trust laws apply equally to for-profit and non-profit entities.

A lot of people (myself included) believe that restricting athletes compensation absent a collective bargaining arrangement violates US anti-trust laws. And the tenuous claim of non-profit status (the athletes who are the other half of the transaction certainly don't think of themselves as non-profit entities) doesn't moot US anti-trust laws.

Court rulings over the past few years have been hostile to these claims made by the NCAA and have consistently ruled in favor of the athletes who create 100% of the value in college football.

Regulation is absolutely possible in college football same as regulation exists with our professional sports leagues. The requirement for salary regulation is a collective bargaining arrangement that provides collective representation for the athletes, same as the member schools enjoy through their collective bargaining unit, the NCAA.

My very strongly held belief is that should the NCAA and member schools decide they really want to go the route of restricting athlete compensation they will need to accept collective bargaining. Otherwise I don't see them being able to restrict athletes compensation
 
PalyCane said:
The issue involves US anti-trust law. And US anti-trust laws apply equally to for-profit and non-profit entities.

A lot of people (myself included) believe that restricting athletes compensation absent a collective bargaining arrangement violates US anti-trust laws. And the tenuous claim of non-profit status (the athletes who are the other half of the transaction certainly don't think of themselves as non-profit entities) doesn't moot US anti-trust laws.

Court rulings over the past few years have been hostile to these claims made by the NCAA and have consistently ruled in favor of the athletes who create 100% of the value in college football.

Regulation is absolutely possible in college football same as regulation exists with our professional sports leagues. The requirement for salary regulation is a collective bargaining arrangement that provides collective representation for the athletes, same as the member schools enjoy through their collective bargaining unit, the NCAA.

My very strongly held belief is that should the NCAA and member schools decide they really want to go the route of restricting athlete compensation they will need to accept collective bargaining. Otherwise I don't see them being able to restrict athletes compensation
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Agreed. Collective bargaining is coming. I believe UAB has already started by unionizing. Northwestern athletes have had discussions about it as well. It's coming.
 
I don’t see why players would ever agree, through collective bargaining or otherwise, to a revenue share that limits NIL and requires them to effectively subsidize Olympic and women’s sports.

If colleges want to use department revenue to fund non-revenue sports, they should encourage outside NIL. That helps compensate the revenue-generating players with a separate pool of money. There is some overlap between NIL contributors and AD contributors, but there is a certain segment of fans that doesn’t want to donate to an inefficient AD committed to non-revenue sports that fans don’t care about.
 
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DMoney said:
Those changes would be illegal.

I think they will tie the revenue sharing money to binding contracts that make it harder to transfer.
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Turn scholarships into multi-year contracts and create a College Football Players Association for player representation.
 
DMoney said:
I don’t see why players would ever agree, through collective bargaining or otherwise, to a revenue share that limits NIL and requires them to effectively subsidize Olympic and women’s sports.

If colleges want to use department revenue to fund non-revenue sports, they should encourage outside NIL. That helps compensate the revenue-generating players with a separate pool of money. There is some overlap between NIL contributors and AD contributors, but there is a certain segment of fans that doesn’t want to donate to an inefficient AD committed to non-revenue sports that fans don’t care about.
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Which is why I think D1 college football programs will be splintering off as separate, for-profit entities eventually. Unfortunately, some programs will not be able to make that jump. I hope Miami will be able to make that jump, but I'm not so sure.

The days of college football being unique may soon be coming to an end, if not already. The regular season has been NFL-ized to a degree with 12 teams making the playoff now. Soon, there will be collective bargaining talks, maybe even future strikes/lockouts.
 
Everyone wanted big money in College sports so here's the headache that comes with it.....Issues like this will be the norm from here on out... it will not stop... Once one issue comes to a "Resolution" , 5 more will appear.... Get used to it...
 
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