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Despite the huge win…What are your areas of concern?

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252cane said:
The end zone one isn’t a blown coverage. and you are reaching bad on the big play thing. It was 3 pass plays of 15 yards or more. It was literally 15, 26, and the blown coverage which was 65. So besides the blown coverage the longest pass play they gave up was 26 yards and you complaining?

Only 2 rushes over 10. That was 13 yards and 30. Held them below 100 and to 3.5 a carry. So again what are you talking about?
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I'm not going over the play by play to rebut you. It isn't worth my time. But State of the U reported it as 4 plays 15+ and 3 rushes 10+. Having been there, that seems about right.

Beyond that, the question was concern. That's it. Complaining? We won. I'm not complaining. But, I'm not pretending this was all rainbows and sunshine for 60 minutes either. That's a child's attitude.

if we are being honest, grown men discussing what we saw, those are my areas of concern. You have none. Congrats. You are the superfan. Have fun with that.
 
JayCane20 said:
My only 2 actual legitimate concerns with this team are no surprise to anyone

1) Mario’s game and clock management. Has always been an issue and will likely always be an issue. The Delay of Game right after the half and the strange timeout usages are so infuriating.

2) The kicking game. I think the talent is there and hard to complain about a 47 yard game winner. Less worried about this than number 1.

If I had to come up with a 3rd “concern” i really don’t think I could do it. Some will say the run game but the same run game was dominant a year ago and is really going to wear on teams that arent built like ND up front. Annoying at times but it’s effective for what we want to do. Have a hard time seeing any ACC team survive 335 pounds across the OL bullying them all night and consistently tackling 225 pound wrecking balls along with it. Big runs will start to pop and 3rd and shorts will come easier. FSU, UF, VT, and Pitt are probably the only 4 teams left that have a chance physically in the trenches. And we probably just out talent VT at the end of the day.
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Regarding point 1, aside for this game in the 4th quarter, and maybe a little at end of 3rd, I've actually liked most of his game and clock management decisions the past year. Idk who he hired to be making these decisions but I think we took a major step up last season. And some of the decision even this game were good. I think people get WAY too up-in-arms about timeout usage, especially in the first half. Like I'm sorry but not every timeout is a waste, especially when taken on a 3rd down when you're up 14 and it's a critical moment.... People get a little too into the weeds about that. Even like complaining about our 2min drive before half. Like We had control of the clock imo. I didn't really see a problem much with how we used it. And Most of last season we were very aggressive with 4th down decision making even knowing we had Borregales.... Ultimately he does get too much into a conservative shell of "just hold on"...

Point 2, I mean yeah, We'll see. Ultimately imo this is College Football. College Kicker always suck ****, and will miss 30 yarders when they shouldn't. It just is what it is. Play like you don't rely on them.

The 3rd concern is 100% where my main concern is. Yeah it was dominant last year. With Cam Ward, and we had a very explosive passing game (even if we weren't getting like 60 yard deep bombs). Beck hasn't had nearly as many big time throws as Cam over their careers. I think we NEED more explosive Runs. And last night was the antithesis of that..... If that's what we're gunna do I want the alignement to be more pistol and to be able to actually run Play Action off it....
 
I think Isaiah Taylor, just won the job of backup nickel, people forget that he played a lot of games at Arizona, he even started a game.

I think the situation with Chuck is he simply is not a nickel and the staff likes the other corners better. Hetherman uses his nickel like LB at times and Brantley just doesn’t have that skill set due to size limitations.
 
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JayCane20 said:
My only 2 actual legitimate concerns with this team are no surprise to anyone

1) Mario’s game and clock management. Has always been an issue and will likely always be an issue. The Delay of Game right after the half and the strange timeout usages are so infuriating.

2) The kicking game. I think the talent is there and hard to complain about a 47 yard game winner. Less worried about this than number 1.

If I had to come up with a 3rd “concern” i really don’t think I could do it. Some will say the run game but the same run game was dominant a year ago and is really going to wear on teams that arent built like ND up front. Annoying at times but it’s effective for what we want to do. Have a hard time seeing any ACC team survive 335 pounds across the OL bullying them all night and consistently tackling 225 pound wrecking balls along with it. Big runs will start to pop and 3rd and shorts will come easier. FSU, UF, VT, and Pitt are probably the only 4 teams left that have a chance physically in the trenches. And we probably just out talent VT at the end of the day.
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I think people tend to forget who we played against. Notre Dame is still a really good football team and they'll rally around their defense, which will probably be a Top 20 unit when it's said and done.

The timeout uses with us come down to us not lining up right or having the wrong personnel in. Mario wanted to call another TO late in the game, because we made a late sub and was called off at the last second. That **** keeps happening too often.

Kicking game doesn't concern me anymore. The snap was bad on the miss, the hold was not great on the XP that was a bad effy and everything after that was perfect on a night where it was not easy to kick. Davis has good mechanics and hits the ball consistently.

Only concern I have is in-game strategy on offense. I understand the sentiment of protecting the ball and the lead, but 3rd and short playcalling was not good. We forced two turnovers in the redzone and came away with 3 as a result. The RPO game also wasn't apparent, we ran one early and that was it. Seemed like Dawson wanted to end the game up 21-7 rather than kill the opponent.
 
Bender said:
I think people tend to forget who we played against. Notre Dame is still a really good football team and they'll rally around their defense, which will probably be a Top 20 unit when it's said and done.

The timeout uses with us come down to us not lining up right or having the wrong personnel in. Mario wanted to call another TO late in the game, because we made a late sub and was called off at the last second. That **** keeps happening too often.

Kicking game doesn't concern me anymore. The snap was bad on the miss, the hold was not great on the XP that was a bad effy and everything after that was perfect on a night where it was not easy to kick. Davis has good mechanics and hits the ball consistently.

Only concern I have is in-game strategy on offense. I understand the sentiment of protecting the ball and the lead, but 3rd and short playcalling was not good. We forced two turnovers in the redzone and came away with 3 as a result. The RPO game also wasn't apparent, we ran one early and that was it. Seemed like Dawson wanted to end the game up 21-7 rather than kill the opponent.
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I keep seeing Dawson, Dawson, Dawson... and while I agree the play calling needs variety, I have a bit of a hard timing buying that Dawson went from "end this ************ right now" guy to milk the clock up 2 scores while dominating guy. Alternatively, we have a head coach who is built that way. And the offense and defense went play not to lose at the same time. Unlikely the head coach had nothing to do with it.
 
I have fewer concerns and more “confirmation” of realistic expectations.

We have some areas that a certain style of team might be able to exploit (we’ll see if we shore these up as it was game 1), but we just beat the National Championship runner up in a muddy dogfight.

This wasn’t blowing the doors off a ****** A&M team. CJ Carr will be this year’s Lagway — he is going to be excellent.

I personally feel there was some overhyping of certain players, but aside from that, this was the first championship level win of the Mario era.

All our typical warts were on display (penalties, clock management, special teams faux pas, defensive lapses, third down stalls) and we overcame them with complementary football and a victory against an excellent team.

That confirms the floor of an ACCCG appearance and a playoff spot. Very excited and can’t wait to be at Florida.

Cannot look past USF, though. This is one of the teams I’m interested in seeing if they can exploit or if we can adjust.
 
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Angry Ibis said:
I keep seeing Dawson, Dawson, Dawson... and while I agree the play calling needs variety, I have a bit of a hard timing buying that Dawson went from "end this ************ right now" guy to milk the clock up 2 scores while dominating guy. Alternatively, we have a head coach who is built that way. And the offense and defense went play not to lose at the same time. Unlikely the head coach had nothing to do with it.
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Well, @Brooklyndee is closer to it than you and I are.

Dawson reasoned it well from his perspective: He went with the best play he felt they had at that point, which was the run. Vs the Aggies in the game you mentioned, we had very little space to run the ball, but threw it all over the place successfully.

I am currently rewatching the game as we speak, so, I will probably make a thread on this on my own.
 
Bender said:
Well, @Brooklyndee is closer to it than you and I are.

Dawson reasoned it well from his perspective: He went with the best play he felt they had at that point, which was the run. Vs the Aggies in the game you mentioned, we had very little space to run the ball, but threw it all over the place successfully.

I am currently rewatching the game as we speak, so, I will probably make a thread on this on my own.
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He is also incredibly biased. I saw his posts laying the early groundwork for Dawson to be the scapegoat this season.

I look forward to your thread. We were dominating them and then gained 15 yards over 4 possessions leading to commentary that we went conservative to ultraconservative.

1-0, but a bunch to work on. Allowing good teams to come back from down 14 to tie the game can end poorly.
 
- Catastrophic penalties on both sides of ball
- Stalling of run game
- Toney was fantastic...yes Daniels catch was CF history making...did Miami really play any other WRs?
- Will TEs do more than block?
- Time management in critical situations...where is the checklist!!!??
 
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