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No excuse for kicking the late fg against Cuse
I honestly don’t know how he sleeps at night after that
On a mattress from Mattress Firm?
No excuse for kicking the late fg against Cuse
I honestly don’t know how he sleeps at night after that
I can when he changes plays when they’re working..I think you are right about GT, but I can't blame Cam for squandering a 21 point lead to Syracuse. Coaching was misery that day.
To be fair, and I am going to catch a lot of **** for this but it needs to be said, Cam was part of the problem with our 2 losses. The defense is and was the biggest reason we lost those games but Cam changed a lot of plays that shouldn’t have been altered. He fell for GT and Cuse’s trap. It’s something you live and die with when your defense is swamp ***.
No excuse? smfh
Yall keep just showing that you basically ONLY look at the end result to determine whether something in the moment was a good or justifiable decision. I don't completely remember whether I preferred to go for it or kick in that moment - I'd guess I was more in the line of go for it - but It absolutely MAKES SENSE why you would kick in that situation, because odds of succeeding on 4th and goal from the 10 aren't very good. I mean at best what would we hope for converting 1/3 there? I mean I absolutely think this is a decision that many people can have differing opinions on - which is why I said a coin flip decision. But to say no excuse for kicking is just straight stupid to me. There is a perfectly valid jusitification.
4th and goal at the 10 down 7 with 3:42 remaining in the game that syracuse had just scored on 5 of their last 7 posessions and a fumble for a TD on one of ours. In that situation and how Syracuse was playing on O/we were playing on D, Imo you can confidently predict that they would likely pick up enough yards to at least get a FG and at the very least only leave us with 1:30 mins max? I mean they ended up getting 42 yards with ease and ending the game at our 33 on a 2nd down (started with it at the 25. So not like the 15 yard difference likely mattered at all if we failed that 4th down attempt). Regardless what decision we made on that 4th down, it's very very likely we were going to give up 3 points on Syracuses' posession.
**But here is the likely most important factor imo - if you have a tie game Syracuse is playing to score and leave 0 time left. They are absolutely going to be more aggressive in their decision making. Whereas if they are already winning by 4 after our FG, they are mostly just playing to run out the clock, which changes their gameplan to be more conservative. Chances are MUCH greater our defense gets a stop when trailing by 4 in that situation than when tied, period. Especially considering they were throwing on us at will. Again this is probabilities we are talking here. I'd much rather our defense be in a situation of probably having to stop a more run-heavy drive than pass heavy drive. Basically you make it easier on your defense but harder on your offense by choosing to kick the FG there. Which when you have the #1 Offense in the country, I'd argue is a perfectly valid decision to make.
I'll gently disagree. I would have liked them to get a TD as well, but there's good metrics to support taking the points.
Uh they play conservatively, and its the same situation as if we kicked the FG where we still need a TD, EXCEPT one big fat difference of getting that TD means winning the game, rather than just tying it lol.But for starters how do you think they play starting on their own 10 with a 7 pt. lead if we don't get it. Further more you do know Syracuse kicking game is a mess? So the very very llkley we give up 3 isn't very very likely.
So just to confirm you think all his GTech decisions were good ones then. Cause Mario is literally being critiqued in this thread for Going for it and Kicking in similar situations lolNot with Cam Ward, not against that putrid defense, and not with that downside.
Of course we could have still lost with scoring, but again I don't know how that man sleeps of night not putting that ball in Cam Ward's hand to tie that game up. There are many things I support CMC on, but this was a travesty
So just to confirm you think all his GTech decisions were good ones then. Cause Mario is literally being critiqued in this thread for Going for it and Kicking in similar situations lol
But you'd say they were good decisions still then, right? Just checking if you are saying he made terrible decisions that game AND the Syracuse game or not. Or are you just doing No Comment + Terrible no excuse decision against Syracuse lolI didn't read them, nor address the GT game.
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Najeh has entered the chat…On that list, it’s No.2 that offended me the most. Probably because by then everyone already knew No.1.
Couldn’t disagree more. Did Cam change plays? Sure but Cam doesn’t choose the personnel or lack thereof for the plays.To be fair, and I am going to catch a lot of **** for this but it needs to be said, Cam was part of the problem with our 2 losses. The defense is and was the biggest reason we lost those games but Cam changed a lot of plays that shouldn’t have been altered. He fell for GT and Cuse’s trap. It’s something you live and die with when your defense is swamp ***.
But you'd say they were good decisions still then, right? Just checking if you are saying he made terrible decisions that game AND the Syracuse game or not. Or are you just doing No Comment + Terrible no excuse decision against Syracuse lol
I'll gently disagree. I would have liked them to get a TD as well, but there's good metrics to support taking the points.
Why would it matter?
I'm talking about the Syracuse game.
You long-winded, annoying, and, most of the time, clueless moron
Or its cause you also talk **** about marios decision making for kicking the FG against Syracuse as there being no excuse for it then at the same time **** on him for going for it against GTech lol. Which I suspect is why you don't want to make the simplest yes/no statement towards that lmao.Why would it matter?
I'm talking about the Syracuse game.
You long-winded, annoying, and, most of the time, clueless moron
In the gameday thread we all knew the game was over as soon as he elected to kick the field goal...& that’s the problem. “Good metrics.”
No it didn’t, & it’s time to remove the nerd science from sports, in general, so we can get back to actual coaching.
So let’s recap what actually took place:
1. We were moving the ball on Syracuse all game; X was literally unstoppable in his route running, especially this drive.
2. Yes George had a dumb unsportsmanlike penalty (in which Mario put him right back in the game after one sit out, mind u), but we ate those penalty yards up over the next 2 plays.
3. It’s less than 4 mins to play, w 4th & Goal at their 8. Our defense hasn’t stopped them all game, but they hadn’t stopped us, either. U DO NOT KICK THE FG W/ UNDER 4 MINS TO PLAY W/ ONLY HAVING TWO TIMEOUTS! Worst case, we have them deep in their territory if we failed, giving our defense a punchers chance w/ their backs against their endzone.
4. After we kicked the FG, WE LEGITIMATELY ALLOWED THEM TO BLEED THE CLOCK TO THE 2 MIN WARNING. So not only do we allow them to bleed the clock, we’re now banking for a 3 & out after the 2 min warning WITH ONLY 2 T.O’s at **** near mid field! Did I fail to mention, WE HAVEN’T STOPPED THEM?!
Even if we did allow a 3 & out from that point, we would need to drive the length of the field w/ approx. 48 secs to score a TD w 0 T.O’s b/c the FG did nothing for us!
After the 2 min. stoppage, ESPN conveniently ran 3 games (VT, Cal, & UL) reminding the American fanbase how fortunate we were to be 10-1 at that point of the season. Lol
This is called situational coaching, not letting some nerds tell u to take the FG in a closely contested match up. 5 mins w all 3 timeouts? Sure; 3:43 w/ only 2 timeouts? **** no.
Objectively retarded response in a discussion about what the analytics would say. Regardless how can you say there is NO EXCUSE for something analytics would clearly say makes sense. But sure deflecting something as "nerd science" is such a substantive argument to make lmao. What a dumb comment, holy ****. I get people not liking analytics and thinking it's better to go with the gut feel of "actual coaching". That doesn't make your right or that there is NO EXCUSE to have chosen to side with the analytics on a ******* coin flip decision lol.& that’s the problem. “Good metrics.”
No it didn’t, & it’s time to remove the nerd science from sports, in general, so we can get back to actual coaching.
At their 10, not 8.So let’s recap what actually took place:
3. It’s less than 4 mins to play, w 4th & Goal at their 8. Our defense hasn’t stopped them all game, but they hadn’t stopped us, either. U DO NOT KICK THE FG W/ UNDER 4 MINS TO PLAY W/ ONLY HAVING TWO TIMEOUTS! Worst case, we have them deep in their territory if we failed, giving our defense a punchers chance w/ their backs against their endzone.
I mean the goal was not to just give them yards lol. But we sucked on defense. I like how your argument though is LOOK HOW BAD OUR D IS! Meanwhile that same argument can be used to show that tying the game would have accomplished.... what?4. After we kicked the FG, WE LEGITIMATELY ALLOWED THEM TO BLEED THE CLOCK TO THE 2 MIN WARNING. So not only do we allow them to bleed the clock, we’re now banking for a 3 & out after the 2 min warning WITH ONLY 2 T.O’s at **** near mid field! Did I fail to mention, WE HAVEN’T STOPPED THEM?!
Yes... and? It's almost like trailing by 7 points with 3:40 left on a 4th and goal from your own 10 is just a bad situation to be in all-around where the odds don't favor you to win regardless the decision... Who would have guessedEven if we did allow a 3 & out from that point, we would need to drive the length of the field w/ approx. 48 secs to score a TD w 0 T.O’s b/c the FG did nothing for us!
smhThis is called situational coaching, not letting some nerds tell u to take the FG in a closely contested match up. 5 mins w all 3 timeouts? Sure; 3:43 w/ only 2 timeouts? **** no.
In the gameday thread we all knew the game was over as soon as he elected to kick the field goal...