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Delaney is a rs sr. fcs or not he should know how to take care of his buddy by now plain and simple. If he put on to much weight that's his ***** fault.
Would you have expected Richt to say Delaney sucks instead?
What were your expectations when he got the inevitable, if not obvious, question about him playing poorly?
If he says he is trash then you and other posters will accuse him of throwing his players under the bus.
CMR knows DD confidence is hanging by a thread right now. Can't have the ole head ball coach pile on. Like it or not we will have to play with Dee throughout the year. Lets just hope he gets into game shape and starts to figure it out.
Would you have expected Richt to say Delaney sucks instead?
What were your expectations when he got the inevitable, if not obvious, question about him playing poorly?
If he says he is trash then you and other posters will accuse him of throwing his players under the bus.
CMR knows DD confidence is hanging by a thread right now. Can't have the ole head ball coach pile on. Like it or not we will have to play with Dee throughout the year. Lets just hope he gets into game shape and starts to figure it out.
But WHY!?! We have other players on the roster, we don't have to ride or die with Delaney as our "starter." I'm all for giving the kid PT and a chance to develop, but continually trotting him out there as the starter if he continues to struggle is retarded. Give Dean or Bandy a chance to start in order to truly see who the best CB combo on the team is. It's not like we have Mayes or Henley as the only other viable option! We have a 4 star freshman that has shown he belongs, we have a 4 star Juco player that still hasn't had a chance to show what he has...why must we stick with Delaney for the bulk of the snaps if he just doesnt have the goods...your point is null and void, buddy.
Here's what happened on the TD that most people probably thought was Delaney's fault.
Delaney is lined-up with inside leverage on the #1 . He's giving up the outside. He's likely told to do this because we saw all of our CB's do this a handful of times during the game.
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The #1 and [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] WR's go vertical. Delaney lets his WR got outside of him and down the sideline.
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The LB carries the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] WR vertical. Redwine rolls over and covers the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] WR as well. Carter was likely supposed to roll over the top of Delaney and cover that vertical route from #1 but instead he stayed over the top of [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] . (which is why we have 3 guys covering [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] and nobody covering #1 )
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That TD is on Carter.
I'm not ready to rag on Delaney just yet, not until we figure out WTF we're doing on defense.
Since when does it make sense to play inside leverage on what looks to be cover two with twins to your side of the field? Yea, the td is on Carter, but DD's alignment and technique was crap. He needs to get a hand on the WR....can't allow a free release.
Prob not cover 2 from presnap look, looks like it's cover 6 (4 to top of formation 2 on the bottom). Now we're we supposed to roll the coverage over toward Dee's way into a cover 3 look? I don't know. If we were it's on AC#5. If it was cover 6 then the TD was a bust on DD#3
I thought it was Cover-6 at first but then I kept seeing our CB's let the WR's run outside of them while they just sat in the flats. And the Safety that's on the Cover-2 side kept rolling over to the 2-WR side. (instead of playing Cover-2 on his side)
I just went and watched this play a few times. Dee was lazy. I don't know of any coverage techniques that tells you to let the WR go untouched around your outside shoulder, especially 10 yards down the field. He needs to do what he can to reroute the WR.
With that being said the only way Dee was not in the wrong here is if they we're rolling the coverage to D's side, but based on the formation of the offense why would you do that? They had a WR, Slot, and an H-back to their side. I think this was cover 6 and Dee just forgot or didn't know he was in 6.
I know why a defense would look like some form of 2 high safety shell and roll to cover 3 towards the WR trip set, with your CB playing the flats to the trips, but based on the Offense formation i don't think that is the call here. I think Dee fell asleep, at worse he needs to get depth with the WR.
Since when does it make sense to play inside leverage on what looks to be cover two with twins to your side of the field? Yea, the td is on Carter, but DD's alignment and technique was crap. He needs to get a hand on the WR....can't allow a free release.
Prob not cover 2 from presnap look, looks like it's cover 6 (4 to top of formation 2 on the bottom). Now we're we supposed to roll the coverage over toward Dee's way into a cover 3 look? I don't know. If we were it's on AC#5. If it was cover 6 then the TD was a bust on DD#3
I thought it was Cover-6 at first but then I kept seeing our CB's let the WR's run outside of them while they just sat in the flats. And the Safety that's on the Cover-2 side kept rolling over to the 2-WR side. (instead of playing Cover-2 on his side)
I just went and watched this play a few times. Dee was lazy. I don't know of any coverage techniques that tells you to let the WR go untouched around your outside shoulder, especially 10 yards down the field. He needs to do what he can to reroute the WR.
With that being said the only way Dee was not in the wrong here is if they we're rolling the coverage to D's side, but based on the formation of the offense why would you do that? They had a WR, Slot, and an H-back to their side. I think this was cover 6 and Dee just forgot or didn't know he was in 6.
I know why a defense would look like some form of 2 high safety shell and roll to cover 3 towards the WR trip set, with your CB playing the flats to the trips, but based on the Offense formation i don't think that is the call here. I think Dee fell asleep, at worse he needs to get depth with the WR.
But they ran it this way over and over and over again, which leads me to believe that it wasn't a mistake by Delaney.
And we did roll the coverage to Delaney's side. Watch Redwine. He rolls after the snap and covers the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] WR on a vertical. (we actually had 3 defenders covering [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] )
If it was Cover-6 then Redwine would've stayed on his side of the field and played Cover-2 on the single WR. (and Delaney would've played Quarters)
Miami shouldn't have to depend on transfers from The Citadel. Aren't they FCS.....and a BAD FCS program at that?
Two questions for you, Macho:Nevermind, he's terrible.
Re-watching the game now and he's being beat like a drum.
What gave you that impression? The numerous targets or the numerous catches?
The numerous times I saw him get completely shook on a route. He was gettin' his a$$ broke off.
Does anyone really believe Delaney feels he's got a free pass? This is a kid in his money year who passed up a late round take in the NFL. He's ****ting bricks right now, and I guarantee he's more motivated than ever to play well from now on. Who knows if he can rise to the occasion, but I have no doubt he's going to leave it all out on the field.
one of many, hope he gets it together...
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that's just horrible
When a guy who used to be a good CB suddenly starts spinning around like a clown his confidence is shot. He's not used to this stage, and he's shook as fck. I thought he was too heavy before the season started, but I got roasted for that. He looks sluggish, and he's got snakes in his head.
When a guy who used to be a good CB suddenly starts spinning around like a clown his confidence is shot. He's not used to this stage, and he's shook as fck. I thought he was too heavy before the season started, but I got roasted for that. He looks sluggish, and he's got snakes in his head.
said it in another thread, but i think he's out of position. i would have him at safety, but we need the body at CB.
Prob not cover 2 from presnap look, looks like it's cover 6 (4 to top of formation 2 on the bottom). Now we're we supposed to roll the coverage over toward Dee's way into a cover 3 look? I don't know. If we were it's on AC#5. If it was cover 6 then the TD was a bust on DD#3
I thought it was Cover-6 at first but then I kept seeing our CB's let the WR's run outside of them while they just sat in the flats. And the Safety that's on the Cover-2 side kept rolling over to the 2-WR side. (instead of playing Cover-2 on his side)
I just went and watched this play a few times. Dee was lazy. I don't know of any coverage techniques that tells you to let the WR go untouched around your outside shoulder, especially 10 yards down the field. He needs to do what he can to reroute the WR.
With that being said the only way Dee was not in the wrong here is if they we're rolling the coverage to D's side, but based on the formation of the offense why would you do that? They had a WR, Slot, and an H-back to their side. I think this was cover 6 and Dee just forgot or didn't know he was in 6.
I know why a defense would look like some form of 2 high safety shell and roll to cover 3 towards the WR trip set, with your CB playing the flats to the trips, but based on the Offense formation i don't think that is the call here. I think Dee fell asleep, at worse he needs to get depth with the WR.
But they ran it this way over and over and over again, which leads me to believe that it wasn't a mistake by Delaney.
And we did roll the coverage to Delaney's side. Watch Redwine. He rolls after the snap and covers the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] [/URL] WR on a vertical. (we actually had 3 defenders covering [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] [/URL] )
If it was Cover-6 then Redwine would've stayed on his side of the field and played Cover-2 on the single WR. (and Delaney would've played Quarters)
I agree. I actually got to see the wide angle from TOS and it looks like when Redwine was almost robbing the crossing routes when he didn't have a [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] receiver to his side. Also looked like Jackson was bailing and covering deep 1/3. We can actually fault both Dee and AC5. Watch the video and Dee doesn't move an inch until the guy is a step behind him and AC5 doesn't get any depth. I forget who was talking about eye discipline with the long layoffs. That is something where you can only hone in your skills during a game and the layoff will hurt you. We had very lazy, lazy, lazy eyes and footwork when we were getting gassed. Fatigue made cowards of us during the second quarter.
BTW Macho....Are you still at Southeast? If so how are you guys playing this year? I know you haven't played a lot, but how's your team looking?
Two questions for you, Macho:Nevermind, he's terrible.
Re-watching the game now and he's being beat like a drum.
What gave you that impression? The numerous targets or the numerous catches?
The numerous times I saw him get completely shook on a route. He was gettin' his a$$ broke off.
1) Do you think we got too complicated on defense vs. last year? Why not run a simple quarters here? I fear that a lot of coaches don't feel they're making progress unless they're adding complexity. Do you feel that is at play?
2) Regarding Delaney, do you think part of the problem might be that at Citadel he was basically told, "you're better than most of the competition, go cover that guy," whereas now he's actually being asked to play grownup CB?
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one of many, hope he gets it together...
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that's just horrible
it's terrible route read. he should immediately note the outside plant from the WR and anticipate the move inside. what does he think from the WR's stem?? That his going up the sideline? WTF?
I thought it was Cover-6 at first but then I kept seeing our CB's let the WR's run outside of them while they just sat in the flats. And the Safety that's on the Cover-2 side kept rolling over to the 2-WR side. (instead of playing Cover-2 on his side)
I just went and watched this play a few times. Dee was lazy. I don't know of any coverage techniques that tells you to let the WR go untouched around your outside shoulder, especially 10 yards down the field. He needs to do what he can to reroute the WR.
With that being said the only way Dee was not in the wrong here is if they we're rolling the coverage to D's side, but based on the formation of the offense why would you do that? They had a WR, Slot, and an H-back to their side. I think this was cover 6 and Dee just forgot or didn't know he was in 6.
I know why a defense would look like some form of 2 high safety shell and roll to cover 3 towards the WR trip set, with your CB playing the flats to the trips, but based on the Offense formation i don't think that is the call here. I think Dee fell asleep, at worse he needs to get depth with the WR.
But they ran it this way over and over and over again, which leads me to believe that it wasn't a mistake by Delaney.
And we did roll the coverage to Delaney's side. Watch Redwine. He rolls after the snap and covers the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] [/URL] WR on a vertical. (we actually had 3 defenders covering [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] [/URL] )
If it was Cover-6 then Redwine would've stayed on his side of the field and played Cover-2 on the single WR. (and Delaney would've played Quarters)
I agree. I actually got to see the wide angle from TOS and it looks like when Redwine was almost robbing the crossing routes when he didn't have a [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] receiver to his side. Also looked like Jackson was bailing and covering deep 1/3. We can actually fault both Dee and AC5. Watch the video and Dee doesn't move an inch until the guy is a step behind him and AC5 doesn't get any depth. I forget who was talking about eye discipline with the long layoffs. That is something where you can only hone in your skills during a game and the layoff will hurt you. We had very lazy, lazy, lazy eyes and footwork when we were getting gassed. Fatigue made cowards of us during the second quarter.
BTW Macho....Are you still at Southeast? If so how are you guys playing this year? I know you haven't played a lot, but how's your team looking?
Yeah, I'm still here. Year #2 .
We're aiiiiight. Really good upfront on defense. We've only allowed 1 first down so far and 67 yards of total offense but we haven't really played anybody either.
Our offense is very inconsistent. Pretty talented at WR but we're super flaky at QB. Kid is 6'5" and talented as **** but still thinks he's a basketball player. Doesn't really do much to become a better football player. Irony is, scouts have never showed up to watch him play basketball but they come to practice to watch him throw the football. You'd think that would make the kid realize where his head should be. *shrug*
We have zero depth. We had literally one RB on the whole roster until about 2 weeks ago. Only one QB. If this kid gets hurt we're gonna have to run the wildcat.
We had 12 kids quit in the fall. A RB completely quit because we asked him to play some LB. Then his brother, our 6'1" 300lb starting NT, quit as well. The starting NT before him - his daddy got mad that we pulled him out of our playoff game for a personal foul penalty so he took him to our rival school. (Manatee) Said the coaches were trippin'. SMH
We had a new 6'4" Defensive End go elsewhere after working out with us during the summer because he told his mom that our school was "too hood". Mom took him to Manatee as well.
It's been quite the "adventure" coaching at this school. I can see why they've been bad for years. This place was in shambles. A lot of self entitlement surrounding this community/school, starting from the optimist level.
I just went and watched this play a few times. Dee was lazy. I don't know of any coverage techniques that tells you to let the WR go untouched around your outside shoulder, especially 10 yards down the field. He needs to do what he can to reroute the WR.
With that being said the only way Dee was not in the wrong here is if they we're rolling the coverage to D's side, but based on the formation of the offense why would you do that? They had a WR, Slot, and an H-back to their side. I think this was cover 6 and Dee just forgot or didn't know he was in 6.
I know why a defense would look like some form of 2 high safety shell and roll to cover 3 towards the WR trip set, with your CB playing the flats to the trips, but based on the Offense formation i don't think that is the call here. I think Dee fell asleep, at worse he needs to get depth with the WR.
But they ran it this way over and over and over again, which leads me to believe that it wasn't a mistake by Delaney.
And we did roll the coverage to Delaney's side. Watch Redwine. He rolls after the snap and covers the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] [/URL] WR on a vertical. (we actually had 3 defenders covering [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] [/URL] )
If it was Cover-6 then Redwine would've stayed on his side of the field and played Cover-2 on the single WR. (and Delaney would've played Quarters)
I agree. I actually got to see the wide angle from TOS and it looks like when Redwine was almost robbing the crossing routes when he didn't have a [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] receiver to his side. Also looked like Jackson was bailing and covering deep 1/3. We can actually fault both Dee and AC5. Watch the video and Dee doesn't move an inch until the guy is a step behind him and AC5 doesn't get any depth. I forget who was talking about eye discipline with the long layoffs. That is something where you can only hone in your skills during a game and the layoff will hurt you. We had very lazy, lazy, lazy eyes and footwork when we were getting gassed. Fatigue made cowards of us during the second quarter.
BTW Macho....Are you still at Southeast? If so how are you guys playing this year? I know you haven't played a lot, but how's your team looking?
Yeah, I'm still here. Year #2 .
We're aiiiiight. Really good upfront on defense. We've only allowed 1 first down so far and 67 yards of total offense but we haven't really played anybody either.
Our offense is very inconsistent. Pretty talented at WR but we're super flaky at QB. Kid is 6'5" and talented as **** but still thinks he's a basketball player. Doesn't really do much to become a better football player. Irony is, scouts have never showed up to watch him play basketball but they come to practice to watch him throw the football. You'd think that would make the kid realize where his head should be. *shrug*
We have zero depth. We had literally one RB on the whole roster until about 2 weeks ago. Only one QB. If this kid gets hurt we're gonna have to run the wildcat.
We had 12 kids quit in the fall. A RB completely quit because we asked him to play some LB. Then his brother, our 6'1" 300lb starting NT, quit as well. The starting NT before him - his daddy got mad that we pulled him out of our playoff game for a personal foul penalty so he took him to our rival school. (Manatee) Said the coaches were trippin'. SMH
We had a new 6'4" Defensive End go elsewhere after working out with us during the summer because he told his mom that our school was "too hood". Mom took him to Manatee as well.
It's been quite the "adventure" coaching at this school. I can see why they've been bad for years. This place was in shambles. A lot of self entitlement surrounding this community/school, starting from the optimist level.
It's a shame what happened to the school. It used to be a **** of a district when Riverview, Manatee, and Southeast were all in the same district. Sad to hear, but i hope you guys get them right. A lot of good players have come out of there. Last one i remember from SE at Miami was Dyrell McMillian. What other teams are in your district? Are you in a district with palmetto, Bayshore, Booker?