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I'm starting to sift through YouTube vids of Houston and Southern Miss and I wanted to open a thread just for some X and O discussion. If anyone would like to add, or contradict, anything I post let's do it here.

Starting off with the basics -

Most of what I've seen from Dawson formation-wise is 3-4 WR, 1 RB, 1 TE/HB. Motion is farily intuitive - usually the TE/HB across the formation.

Generally speaking I like his route trees - 2-3 deep routes (go/post/etc) and almost always an underneath option or two - sometimes the RB, sometimes a crosser or out underneath.

Running game is diverse compared to Lashlee, some power/pulling concepts and the WR/TEs will be expected to block.

TE seams and flex motion for mismatches - Skinner and Arroyo will eat.

Screen game is logical and not overused - this isn't a bubble screen based offense.

I saw more RPO at Southern Miss than at Houston but I'm wondering if that aspect comes back, given TVDs skillset.



I'll add more as I see more, but please feel free to pile on.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
Wouldn't So Miss review be more relevant IF rumor is true about Holgerson calling plays for Houston?
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It's why I'm kinda looking at both. I don't want to just throw out the last 3 years at UH, but I want to temper it with some other stops too. I am kinda throwing out the year at UK given how messy that whole cluster**** appeared to be.
 
ghost2 said:
I saw more RPO at Southern Miss than at Houston but I'm wondering if that aspect comes back, given TVDs skillset.

I'll add more as I see more, but please feel free to pile on.
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This and where the playclock was when they snapped the ball really sticks out in the Houston clips.

I like his screen game. Although would prefer more of a horizontal passing game.
 
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mossmadness said:
This and where the playclock was when they snapped the ball really sticks out in the Houston clips.

I like his screen game. Although would prefer more of a horizontal passing game.
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I noticed that as well. Most of his run concepts appear to be outside zone, which in some ways take the place of that lateral screen game. It's definitely a vertical-first offense.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
I know you are well read, but this fallacy was shot down by a former member of the Houston staff. Holgy did not take over playcalling.
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kobe what gif.gif


this is risible! well read?
 
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ghost2 said:
homer simpson trombone GIF


My staff is retired and my trombone is rusty. Story of my life.
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your statement about your being a jazz trombone Ph.D. left a small impression on me. i know you are into jazz, but you also said you played salsa in some trans/*** nightclub in Atlanta.

i've seen Juan Luis Guerra in concert various times. his band is amongst the best. this video has a great horn section.

 
ghost2 said:
I'm starting to sift through YouTube vids of Houston and Southern Miss and I wanted to open a thread just for some X and O discussion. If anyone would like to add, or contradict, anything I post let's do it here.

Starting off with the basics -

Most of what I've seen from Dawson formation-wise is 3-4 WR, 1 RB, 1 TE/HB. Motion is farily intuitive - usually the TE/HB across the formation.

Generally speaking I like his route trees - 2-3 deep routes (go/post/etc) and almost always an underneath option or two - sometimes the RB, sometimes a crosser or out underneath.

Running game is diverse compared to Lashlee, some power/pulling concepts and the WR/TEs will be expected to block.

TE seams and flex motion for mismatches - Skinner and Arroyo will eat.

Screen game is logical and not overused - this isn't a bubble screen based offense.

I saw more RPO at Southern Miss than at Houston but I'm wondering if that aspect comes back, given TVDs skillset.



I'll add more as I see more, but please feel free to pile on.
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Thank god
 
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ghost2 said:
I'm starting to sift through YouTube vids of Houston and Southern Miss and I wanted to open a thread just for some X and O discussion. If anyone would like to add, or contradict, anything I post let's do it here.

Starting off with the basics -

Most of what I've seen from Dawson formation-wise is 3-4 WR, 1 RB, 1 TE/HB. Motion is farily intuitive - usually the TE/HB across the formation.

Generally speaking I like his route trees - 2-3 deep routes (go/post/etc) and almost always an underneath option or two - sometimes the RB, sometimes a crosser or out underneath.

Running game is diverse compared to Lashlee, some power/pulling concepts and the WR/TEs will be expected to block.

TE seams and flex motion for mismatches - Skinner and Arroyo will eat.

Screen game is logical and not overused - this isn't a bubble screen based offense.

I saw more RPO at Southern Miss than at Houston but I'm wondering if that aspect comes back, given TVDs skillset.



I'll add more as I see more, but please feel free to pile on.
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Good on you for putting in the footwork.
 
ghost2 said:
I'm starting to sift through YouTube vids of Houston and Southern Miss and I wanted to open a thread just for some X and O discussion. If anyone would like to add, or contradict, anything I post let's do it here.

Starting off with the basics -

Most of what I've seen from Dawson formation-wise is 3-4 WR, 1 RB, 1 TE/HB. Motion is farily intuitive - usually the TE/HB across the formation.

Generally speaking I like his route trees - 2-3 deep routes (go/post/etc) and almost always an underneath option or two - sometimes the RB, sometimes a crosser or out underneath.

Running game is diverse compared to Lashlee, some power/pulling concepts and the WR/TEs will be expected to block.

TE seams and flex motion for mismatches - Skinner and Arroyo will eat.

Screen game is logical and not overused - this isn't a bubble screen based offense.

I saw more RPO at Southern Miss than at Houston but I'm wondering if that aspect comes back, given TVDs skillset.



I'll add more as I see more, but please feel free to pile on.
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You can bet there’ll be a steady diet of Rpo with TVD. This Offense is built for him. He won”t sit back there like a sitting duck anymore waiting for slow developing plays to drag out and a lot of the time the read being pre determined . So he had to wait for that route.
 
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