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Brad_Wellson said:
You are exactly what Dawson was talking about.

Counter can, indeed, be a run "up the middle."
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This is the dumbest **** I've read in a hot minute.

And posts an X and O sheet that precisely proves why a counter isn't a run "up the middle".

You won't be making it here much longer anyway, so might as well keep prancing on that mighty horse you pretend to ride on.
 
Bender said:
This is the dumbest **** I've read in a hot minute.

And posts an X and O sheet that precisely proves why a counter isn't a run "up the middle".

You won't be making it here much longer anyway, so might as well keep prancing on that mighty horse you pretend to ride on.
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Define “up the middle.”
If it’s solely A gaps, you’re right. If it’s between the tackles, he’s right. The counter trey involves pulling both G and T. Sometimes it looks like a sweep (obv outside); sometimes it’s off the non-pulling tackle’s shoulder.
 
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BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Define “up the middle.”
If it’s solely A gaps, you’re right. If it’s between the tackles, he’s right. The counter trey involves pulling both G and T. Sometimes it looks like a sweep (obv outside); sometimes it’s off the non-pulling tackle’s shoulder.
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The counter trey is designed to present a RB with options, it's either the alley it's opened up to block or off tackle if the edge crashes down.

By that definition of "inside the tackles", a stretch is a run up the middle if the RB decides to take the cutback lane. That's not the case and everyone with some functioning brain cells knows it. If I run a crack toss within the tackle, is that a run up the middle because we didn't bounce it? No.

The point of complaint was that we kept running the ball towards a vertically penetrating 0-tech, basically eliminating 1. the C to anchor and 2. prevent the G from comboblocking because the C is occupied.

I don't need a pretentious douche to get ****y about the words "up the middle" that fans use as an oversimplification of what takes place on Saturdays, a fact that even Dawson admitted within the press conference when he said that they need to do a better job of creating space for the running backs to go through.
 
miamicanephins said:
He asked how do you get the ball outside? Smart *** rhetorical question I know.

Since you said the o line can't pull and the center gets blown up, you could run jet sweeps, split backs with tosses, wildcat. There are ways to mix it up.
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Also, you can use different formations. I'd start the game with 4 verts and run some plays out of that formation. You can put Beck under center and run the I, play action. Again, mix it up.
 
Bender said:
The counter trey is designed to present a RB with options, it's either the alley it's opened up to block or off tackle if the edge crashes down.

By that definition of "inside the tackles", a stretch is a run up the middle if the RB decides to take the cutback lane. That's not the case and everyone with some functioning brain cells knows it. If I run a crack toss within the tackle, is that a run up the middle because we didn't bounce it? No.

The point of complaint was that we kept running the ball towards a vertically penetrating 0-tech, basically eliminating 1. the C to anchor and 2. prevent the G from comboblocking because the C is occupied.

I don't need a pretentious douche to get ****y about the words "up the middle" that fans use as an oversimplification of what takes place on Saturdays, a fact that even Dawson admitted within the press conference when he said that they need to do a better job of creating space for the running backs to go through.
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Did my comment warrant that tone in your response or was that misdirected ire coming from you? I wrote nothing disrespectful (this time). I wrote the same thing you did regarding the counter trey, just in less words.
 
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Hurracanes said:
Not a good look and sign of things to come. This offense has regressed significantly this season and his critics are being proven right about Cam. Sucks.
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its just ridiculous to argue with reporters on what everyone can see lol. he is a product of Cam Ward. beck doesnt look much better than he did last year and tbh, it looks like were now TVDing Beck in terms of soft ball plays to limit his turnovers. thats not a great look for a 4 mill QB.
 
Brad_Wellson said:
That's what a I love about message board warriors. An unequivocal success is argued to be a failure because he went 27-47.

Mario did it the right way. He started at the bottom and learned the craft while achieving the quickest back-to-back bowl appearances for a start-up program.

Yet, it's considered a failure and he's considered a bad coach because of it.
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Context matters but this is CIS, where logic goes to die. There are tons of objectively terrible coaches that have better records than HOF quality coaches. It’s the Wade Phillips vs Bill Parcells debate. Phillips has a better career winning percentage than Parcells, and it’s obvious why. Phillips inherited teams built by someone else, Parcells built teams, which means you have to take the losses as the team is built. Same thing with Chuck Knox. Had Mario never taken the FIU job, and instead taken a midmajor job where you could win consistently, his career record would be significantly better, even though it’s likely he would be the exact same coach.
 
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