Dawson is fed up with the inside run talk

[rascon]

I actually like the fact that Dawson is getting annoyed by it. Problem is in how the questions are posed to Dawson. Most OCs already think they are smartest guy in the room so when anyone questions them, they don’t like that.

That said, I mentioned before I could care less if they want to run A gap runs - most air raid systems typically don’t have a lot of running game variety, they have just a few but they can run it out of multiple formations so it always looks different and defense can’t call out pass/run presnap because the formation, alignment and motion are pretty much the same.

Fwiw, most air raid systems have more synergy with zone run game.

That all said, when we run offense, our formations, alignment (spacing) and personnel all appear to be different when it comes to pass and run play calls.

I’d question if that has been reviewed in film study that if we have self identified any tendencies that we can learn from.

 

[N25.45W81.21]

late to the discussion, and probably already mentioned, but it's obvious defenses are scheming towards a between the tackles run game. So, it's not a misperception. And it's also a hint to counter adjust to the adjustments.

 

[Bender]

Did my comment warrant that tone in your response or was that misdirected ire coming from you? I wrote nothing disrespectful (this time). I wrote the same thing you did regarding the counter trey, just in less words.

The tone becomes necessary to whom it was directed to. And it wasn't directed at you.

 

[bacane]

late to the discussion, and probably already mentioned, but it's obvious defenses are scheming towards a between the tackles run game. So, it's not a misperception. And it's also a hint to counter adjust to the adjustments.

Obviously we self scout & have analysts breaking down tendency. May not see major changes, but hope will continue seeing tweaks.

 

[hurricaneman]

You want to see an example of how bad Lofton is in blocking, go to the 7:15 mark and watch Bauman and Lofton block for Toney on the sweep. It's probably a TD if Lofton actually blocks the 190 lb defender.

 

[Schnelly'sPipe]

yes.

 

[Hurracanes]

Not a good look and sign of things to come. This offense has regressed significantly this season and his critics are being proven right about Cam. Sucks.

According to NCAA, Miami is currently ranked:
36th in scoring offense averaging 34 ppg
69th in rushing offense averaging 154 ypg
38th in passing 256 ypg
51st in total offense

I love and support Mario but this is disappointing and difficult to defend with all the talent we have on this offense.

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[JBCanes-NC]

Shannon Nix

 

[miamicanephins]

Also, you can use different formations. I'd start the game with 4 verts and run some plays out of that formation. You can put Beck under center and run the I, play action. Again, mix it up.

As an example the Dolphins ran a jumbo package, 6 O linemen, against the Falcons, something they have never done during the McDaniel era. It was a formation the Falcons weren't ready for and it enabled the Phins to basically blow them out.

Miami had 24 first downs, 338 yards of offense, 141 rushing yards.

 

[Arehel]

Define “up the middle.”
If it’s solely A gaps, you’re right. If it’s between the tackles, he’s right. The counter trey involves pulling both G and T. Sometimes it looks like a sweep (obv outside); sometimes it’s off the non-pulling tackle’s shoulder.

Agreed, a counter trey is technically "up the middle if were referring to between the tackles.
The general consensus is, inside run is between the tackles, outside run, outside the tackles.

Now back to counter trey, typical you have a FB or TE that kicks out the play side end, with backside guard and tackle pulling, guard take play side LB, while pulling tackle take MDM. So agreed, yes in between the tackles.

Most, if not all, trap plays are inside runs as well, which is considered misdirection.
I'm with you on there.

The eyes tells you.

I also find that Fletcher runs CAN be taken outside, which may gain more yardage, but he decides to ram it up the middle often, which is who he is. Lyle does the opposite to a certain degree.

 

[Arehel]

Did my comment warrant that tone in your response or was that misdirected ire coming from you? I wrote nothing disrespectful (this time). I wrote the same thing you did regarding the counter trey, just in less words.

I'm with you @BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati, @Bender , not sure if you're rage baiting or no, but a counter trey play, is a gap scheme play, thus point of attack. the Pull guard perform a "Klog" kick out or log it in" ( assuming there isn't a FB or TE to hit the end) then the puling tackle either goes indie or outside or said guard.

Counter try is a counter to a typical; off tackle play, since in this case the FB leads and perform an iso block on the LB or end and the counter show similar set up but goes the way of the above, their INITIAL designs are to be inside plays.

ANY PLAY CAN BE BOUNCED outside, but the ball carrier, doesn't mean that's what it calls for.
Yards a north and south not east and west brother.

I actually want to see more variation, but just PA rolls outs with flood concepts off of them, and being used under center more often
Beck is mobile enough, is smart enough and we play trips to one side often with post movement making it quads sometimes, seems like a natural progression (except for the under center).

 

[Brad_Wellson]

This is the dumbest **** I've read in a hot minute.

And posts an X and O sheet that precisely proves why a counter isn't a run "up the middle".

You tried to sound smart by injecting Oklahoma's counter trey and then got egg on your face when informed that Oklahoma's counter trey is literally intended to be a 'B' gap run play.

As if Dawson didn't say this exact thing in the presser: 'B' gap run plays are thought to be "up the middle" by noobs on message boards.

 

[Brad_Wellson]

You’re claiming Miami is just like a national championship team bc they ran for 4.6 a carry and Miami is at 3.9. I don’t think it’s me who’s new to this

Michigan was 4.5 ypc and we're currently 4.3 ypc.

I don't know where you clowns get your numbers from but it's brutal.

 

[P-Tizzle]

Bro Lane coached at FAU and went 27-13, won conference championships 2 years in a row.

Except that he didn’t. He won two conference championships at FAU…but they were not in a row. He went 5-7 between a 5-7 season. Also forget going 17-12 in the PAC 10 or 4-4 in the SEC at UT. Kiffin is a good coach but he’s not great. Great coaches win a championship and he hasn’t been close.

 

[Brad_Wellson]

You won't be making it here much longer anyway, so might as well keep prancing on that mighty horse you pretend to ride on.

You're only hope is to get rid of me because your goofy as has no chance otherwise.

 

[Brad_Wellson]

The counter trey is designed to present a RB with options, it's either the alley it's opened up to block or off tackle if the edge crashes down.

Dawson literally said this at the presser: even plays that look "up the middle" can spill outside based on how the defense plays it.

You're clearly trying to pose as an expert but you're too clownish to even do that.

 

[Brad_Wellson]

I don't need a pretentious douche to get ****y about the words "up the middle" that fans use as an oversimplification of what takes place on Saturdays, a fact that even Dawson admitted within the press conference when he said that they need to do a better job of creating space for the running backs to go through.

You're more triggered than Dawson was.

The difference is that he's right and just frustrated. You're just preening and desperately trying to look smart.

The OU counter trey post was utterly laughable. But you thought it was brilliant.

 

[Brad_Wellson]

Did my comment warrant that tone in your response or was that misdirected ire coming from you? I wrote nothing disrespectful (this time). I wrote the same thing you did regarding the counter trey, just in less words.

He's triggered by the egg dripping from his face.

 

[Bender]

You tried to sound smart by injecting Oklahoma's counter trey and then got egg on your face when informed that Oklahoma's counter trey is literally intended to be a 'B' gap run play.

As if Dawson didn't say this exact thing in the presser: 'B' gap run plays are thought to be "up the middle" by noobs on message boards.

Thanks for proving my point, you gigantic dumbass...

If you'd actually read what I typed, you'd be realizing that B gap run plays aren't the "run up the middle" plays that message board morons kept talking about - which is exactly what I said. You kept being pretenious about oversimplifications and now you're being pretenious just because you're being an idiot.

 

[Bender]

He's triggered by the egg dripping from his face.

Triggered? You're the one insulting people left and right and I'm triggered?

Keep going, son. Make my day.