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Davon Mitchell 5* TE from Los Alamitos, CA Hits the Portal after Reclassifiying

bobbydigius said:
I think a harsh reality will hit us soon enough when people begin to realize Dawson was overhyped. How he couldn’t sell Miller on the opportunity to play here and showcase the offense he had in Houston should be a major concern.
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Nonsense we have never overhyped a single player or coach before a regular game has been played
 
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DMoney said:
I get you and I can’t speak for anybody else. But I spoke directly with staff and they weren’t misled here. Jacorey Barney- different story. They were blindsided.

With Mitchell, they worked extremely hard but they knew it was a coin flip with OU having several advantages (familiarity, friends at the school, etc.)
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Is the Barney relationship salvageable ?
 
TRick72 said:
Nonsense we have never overhyped a single player or coach before a regular game has been played
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when Dawson was hired, I dont think he was overhyped lol. even cribby wasn't even excited. he was a plan b/c target as OC. it is what it is. hopefully his scheme fits our roster and the players we recruit better (anyone who didnt play with Fred flinstones)
 
STG said:
Huh? Lashlee spent one year at UCONN as OC post Malzahan and improved that offense. This doesn't make sense. He than went to SMU under Dykes to be OC before coming to Miami.

The questions surrounding Lashlee was whether he ran Dykes Air Raid offense and actually called the plays at SMU.

Dawson has a 4 year sample size away from Dana at Kentucky and S. Miss as sole OC and his offenses were not good to say the least.
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From what’s been said his stint at Kentucky was like us having Gattis last year. Square peg and round hole. Southern Miss exactly a hot bed for talent. Not making or trying to make excuses. We’ve always said if we had that kind of offense at the U. We would kill it. We had a form of it with Lashlee TVD flourished. Now we have another AIR RAID disciple and you guys are worried? Not saying it isn’t somewhat warranted, but I’m excited. Due to the fact he knows what we as fans and recruits expect. So there’s no room to learn on the job.
 
Caneofcanes said:
From what’s been said his stint at Kentucky was like us having Gattis last year. Square peg and round hole. Southern Miss exactly a hot bed for talent. Not making or trying to make excuses. We’ve always said if we had that kind of offense at the U. We would kill it. We had a form of it with Lashlee TVD flourished. Now we have another AIR RAID disciple and you guys are worried? Not saying it isn’t somewhat warranted, but I’m excited. Due to the fact he knows what we as fans and recruits expect. So there’s no room to learn on the job.
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You say you’re not trying to make excuses but are making excuses. Not trying to be combative but that is exactly what it was. Bottom line: when he went on his own he struggled. When he worked under Dana and his system he did well. He did so bad on his own that he had to crawl back to Dana and worked his way back to being an OC. Like I said, if he just follows Dana’s scheme we should be okay but let’s not pretend there isn’t serious concerns over what he did out on his. You couple that with Mario being the HC and his track record and you can’t blame people for being concerned. I still think we win 8-9.
 
Caneofcanes said:
From what’s been said his stint at Kentucky was like us having Gattis last year. Square peg and round hole. Southern Miss exactly a hot bed for talent. Not making or trying to make excuses. We’ve always said if we had that kind of offense at the U. We would kill it. We had a form of it with Lashlee TVD flourished. Now we have another AIR RAID disciple and you guys are worried? Not saying it isn’t somewhat warranted, but I’m excited. Due to the fact he knows what we as fans and recruits expect. So there’s no room to learn on the job.
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Saying he needs 'talent" to run an Air Raid simply does not compute. Most, if not all Air Raid offenses are doing way more with less. You don't find Air Raid offenses littered with high profile recruits.

He had 3 years at S. Miss. His offenses were not good. He had his time to recruit his own players. And again, he did not run an Air Raid offense at UK or S. MISS. Truth is, Houston did not run a true Air Raid. They utilized concepts of an Air Raid. So we definitely won't see anything resembling a true Air Raid regardless.

With that being said, I hope his 2nd time around with Dana he learned and has decided to run that style of O rather than what he ran at UK and S MISS the first time he left Dana. Because they were not good or what you are hoping to see. Let's hope for the best.
 
bobbydigius said:
Not duped but per usual people ignore the red flags. He was a solid hire when considering how it plays into Mario breaking his own mold and narrative. That said he isn’t some ground breaking offensive guru. He is solid and a good safe hire when breaking into the new age of offensive football
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Do we need anyone or anything groundbreaking? Or just better talent to work in the system we’re trying to implement.
 
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hoops156 said:
when Dawson was hired, I dont think he was overhyped lol. even cribby wasn't even excited. he was a plan b/c target as OC. it is what it is. hopefully his scheme fits our roster and the players we recruit better (anyone who didnt play with Fred flinstones)
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Remember when a group of us said Cristobal was making a terrible decision hiring a pro style OC instead of sticking with a spread offense that clearly worked better for TVD, and then we got lectured by other posters who said it was delusional to think we knew what offense worked better for UM than a coach making 8 million per year? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
 
bobbydigius said:
You say you’re not trying to make excuses but are making excuses. Not trying to be combative but that is exactly what it was. Bottom line: when he went on his own he struggled. When he worked under Dana and his system he did well. He did so bad on his own that he had to crawl back to Dana and worked his way back to being an OC. Like I said, if he just follows Dana’s scheme we should be okay but let’s not pretend there isn’t serious concerns over what he did out on his. You couple that with Mario being the HC and his track record and you can’t blame people for being concerned. I still think we win 8-9.
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I agree as well if we run that system. I do recall quite a few posters stating. Stoops wanted a power game. Now it wasn’t very successful so U are correct. That style of play if far from his lineage.
 
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Apparently it's a clown show in this thread
 
STG said:
Saying he needs 'talent" to run an Air Raid simply does not compute. Most, if not all Air Raid offenses are doing way more with less. You don't find Air Raid offenses littered with high profile recruits.

He had 3 years at S. Miss. His offenses were not good. He had his time to recruit his own players. And again, he did not run an Air Raid offense at UK or S. MISS. Truth is, Houston did not run a true Air Raid. They utilized concepts of an Air Raid. So we definitely won't see anything resembling a true Air Raid regardless.

With that being said, I hope his 2nd time around with Dana he learned and has decided to run that style of O rather than what he ran at UK and S MISS the first time he left Dana. Because they were not good or what you are hoping to see. Let's hope for the best.
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Listen I totally agree as far as style of play. I’m just stating I expect to see a stark difference. From last years offense and this years offense. No way Mario would replace one Broffense coach with another would he?
 
Angry Ibis said:
People can’t just take an L.

Staff recruited a player, close race, lost the battle: L.
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Plenty of people can but they/I’m reacting to people trying to act like some of these misses are no big deal because we have bigger needs at other positions. The cumulative misses are a big deal to me and reflective of a pattern this cycle especially now that we are well into July.

No reason for people to make excuses. For whatever reason we’re getting stuffed.
 
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STG said:
Did you happen to watch his offenses the four years combined he spent at both UK and S. Miss? That is when he was actually OC on his own.
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Don't worry, Mario's got this. Dawson and him will work tirelessly until they have a playbook.








- Runs away as fast as I can.

On a serious note, we'll see how it goes. I would daresay it can't be worse than last year.
 
SayWhat said:
Don't worry, Mario's got this. Dawson and him will work tirelessly until they have a playbook.








- Runs away as fast as I can.

On a serious note, we'll see how it goes. I would daresay it can't be worse than last year.
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It sounds like he was learning under AIR RAID COACHES, but deviated from his roots when he got on his own. Is that true?
 
PSU Cane said:
Personally, I don't think 8 wins will do it.

Miami is practically being handed 6 wins in Miami(OH), Bethune, Temple, GT, UVA and Boston College. The last 4 teams in that list had a combined 14 wins last season.

Then you have Louisville (trying to replace Cunningham) and NC State (trying to replace Leary) along with UNC, Clemson, FSU and A&M. If you can't split those 6, which includes beating lower tiered recruiting teams replacing long-term starting QBs and beating a few teams you recruit head-to-head with, to win at least 9 overall, the negative recruiting will only get louder......especially when you are likely going to lose TVD and only have JB, Emory and Judd returning at QB.
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I agree but for me personally, I have shifted to “Prove it to me first, Miami” Mode.

In theory you are 100% correct with what should be the 6 wins you have listed but me personally, just going to wait until they actually do it because 9 wins and a bowl win should be what they accomplish.

I too say 8-4, especially if there are injuries at key positions (knocking on wood that is not the case).
 
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