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Darian Mensah received a deal from Duke that is believed to pay him $8 million over two years

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DTP said:
MLB doesn’t have a salary cap. Their players make more than any other pro sports league in the US. Leagues with salary caps only have them because players and owners collectively bargained for them. Players agreed to limit salaries in exchange for more free agent rights. The other 99.9% of the people in this country don’t have limits on what they’re allowed to get paid. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you.
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And CBA/Union would tell these players to do less for more -- so this bowl game stuff, voluntary stuff, etc... Nah man. NFLPA does not like them participating in the combine really because of the gap between college and pro and the player protections -- the previous head spoke at UM at a conference and was fairly pointed in his remarks.
 
Trav said:
They have to do something.. And remember the ADs and university presidents are tight with politicians.
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Who is "they"?
Seems to me Big10 and SEC are pretty satisfied with current landscape where they get to sit back and watch lower tier programs develop players for them to poach them later, meanwhile dumping whatever undesirable players they may have on their roster.
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
There is a 0% chance Duke paid Darian Mensah $8,000,000 over two years.

John Mateer didn't sniff that kind of money—and even had Bill Belichick entering the convo.

If North Carolina wanted Mensah, Belichick would've back up the Brinks truck like they tried for Mateer.

The market for Mensah was nowhere near what Mateer's was; zero reason for Duke to have to pay him that way when there weren't any other suitors even CLOSE to wanting to pay big for him.
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You clearly didn't read the article ... it explains exactly how this is quite realistic.
 
DTP said:
MLB doesn’t have a salary cap. Their players make more than any other pro sports league in the US. Leagues with salary caps only have them because players and owners collectively bargained for them. Players agreed to limit salaries in exchange for more free agent rights. The other 99.9% of the people in this country don’t have limits on what they’re allowed to get paid. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you.
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The MLB is the only sport that doesn’t have a salary cap, but it has a luxury tax and that luxury tax isn’t small. So no it’s not a “free market” the same way CFB is, bc there is no punishment at all for any amount of payroll.

Those 99.9% of other people are technically operating in a free market and getting whatever someone thinks they are worth. But it’s not unlimited. They are subject to a spreadsheet. A real business would go bankrupt if they ran their payroll like NIL is run. The people that pay these kids millions of dollars are not getting an ROI, other than a tax write off and joy from watching that player help their team. Not the same thing.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
The MLB is the only sport that doesn’t have a salary cap, but it has a luxury tax and that luxury tax isn’t small. So no it’s not a “free market” the same way CFB is, bc there is no punishment at all for any amount of payroll.

Those 99.9% of other people are technically operating in a free market and getting whatever someone thinks they are worth. But it’s not unlimited. They are subject to a spreadsheet. A real business would go bankrupt if they ran their payroll like NIL is run. The people that pay these kids millions of dollars are not getting an ROI, other than a tax write off and joy from watching that player help their team. Not the same thing.
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First of all the luxury tax in MLB is a joke. Every year they break the record for luxury tax dollars spent and every year salaries go up.

Secondly, are you suggesting that college boosters, who are supplying a majority of the NIL money are just willing to spend so much on players that they, themselves would be hurt financially? Because that’s nowhere near true. If paying players was hurting their bottom line and school collectives were going broke, they wouldn’t be doing it. You don’t think every single program has a “spreadsheet”? Nobody is just giving every player as much money as they want. Everyone has a budget. Some teams have more than others. Just like in any workplace. Some businesses can afford to pay more while others can’t. You don’t force people to stay at a business that can’t pay as much as another because “it’s not fair”.
 
Raise ticket prices , concession prices and everything else jerseys hats even bumper stickers.

Pay them all 10’s of millions each player and hopefully they’ll all unionize and strike for more LMAO can’t wait as CFB is slowly being destroyed
 
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Page305 said:
maaaaan......
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He's played 1 defense in the SP+ top 50…Only Clemson at 42. UM has faced 4 in the top 30 and 5 better than Clemson because SMU is 40th

Can we take Beck's stats against Sofla, Stan, BC only or nah? **** let's throw FSU and SMU (30 and 40) and we'll say they are in the same ballpark as Clemson. And then compare.

But yeah I'll give ya some credit, kid looks good…But has to be taken in context. Duke's schedule of opposing defenses is a joke. Make sure you relay that to @cway313 as well
 
CanesFan20 said:
Through 9 games 2,572 yards 21TDs 2INTs 70% completion

Fernando Mendoza 2,400 Total Yards 29 Total TDs 4ints

Carson Beck 1,947 yards 14TDs 9ints in 8 games
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skeeter said:
He's played 1 defense in the SP+ top 50…Only Clemson at 42. UM has faced 4 in the top 30 and 5 better than Clemson because SMU is 40th

Can we take Beck's stats against Sofla, Stan, BC only or nah? **** let's throw FSU and SMU (30 and 40) and we'll say they are in the same ballpark as Clemson. And then compare.

But yeah I'll give ya some credit, kid looks good…But has to be taken in context. Duke's schedule of opposing defenses is a joke. Make sure you relay that to @cway313 as well
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You provided stats that I hadn't taken the time to look up so that's appreciated. But I still feel like you saying he's just decent is a lil crazy.
 
skeeter said:
He's played 1 defense in the SP+ top 50…Only Clemson at 42. UM has faced 4 in the top 30 and 5 better than Clemson because SMU is 40th

Can we take Beck's stats against Sofla, Stan, BC only or nah? **** let's throw FSU and SMU (30 and 40) and we'll say they are in the same ballpark as Clemson. And then compare.

But yeah I'll give ya some credit, kid looks good…But has to be taken in context. Duke's schedule of opposing defenses is a joke. Make sure you relay that to @cway313 as well
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GOCANES05 said:
Raise ticket prices , concession prices and everything else jerseys hats even bumper stickers.

Pay them all 10’s of millions each player and hopefully they’ll all unionize and strike for more LMAO can’t wait as CFB is slowly being destroyed
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I don't work for free, and I sure as **** would never suggest that a young person, playing a sport where they are risking their long term health take less, so some fans living out their "Massa" fantasies can feel better about themselves. It's amazing how capitalism is the best thing ever, until certain people start benefitting, and then it's an issue. Then again, sports is the ONLY endeavor where working class people will forgo class solidarity(A significant percentage of professional athletes come from working class/middle class backgrounds) to bootlick for billionaires, who will then loot local governments for facilities that the typical person aren't even welcomed in. Congrats, you've been played.

I've always found it weird that no one gave a **** when coaches, who are vastly different from the bulk of the players they coach, got paid obscene amounts, to the point that the highest paid state employee in almost every state is either a college football or basketball coach.
 
Page305 said:
You provided stats that I hadn't taken the time to look up so that's appreciated. But I still feel like you saying he's just decent is a lil crazy.
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I mean the kid is working out and I'll tip my cap he's a little better than I thought…But he also takes a **** ton of sacks, just like he did at Tulane and has lost a couple of fumbles.

And again, he hasn't really a defense with a pulse all season.
 
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