DAILY DEBATE: What is FSU’s final record this year?

I'm no football expert but that GT offense didn't look any different than last year. The fact that Mike couldn't stop it with an entire off season to plan speaks volumes
 
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I dont know what their record will be but as has been said over and over, you do not magically replace all this talent.

  1. Jared Verse, Defensive End, First round (19th overall pick)
  2. Keon Coleman, Wide Receiver, Second round (33rd overall pick)
  3. Braden Fiske, Defensive Tackle, Second round (39th overall pick)
  4. Renardo Green, Cornerback, Second round (64th overall pick)
  5. Trey Benson, Running Back, Third round (66th overall pick)
  6. Jarrian Jones, Defensive Back, Third round (96th overall pick)
  7. Jordan Travis, Quarterback, Fifth round (171st overall pick)
  8. Johnny Wilson, Wide Receiver, Sixth round (185th overall pick)
  9. Jaheim Bell, Tight End, Seventh round (231st overall pick)
  10. Tatum Bethune, Linebacker, Seventh round (251st overall pick)

For comparison:

  1. Kamren Kinchens, Safety, 3rd round (99th overall) by the Los Angeles Rams
  2. Jaden Davis, Cornerback, 7th round (226th overall) by the Arizona Cardinals
  3. Matt Lee, Center, 7th round (237th overall) by the Cincinnati Bengals
  4. James Williams, Safety, 7th round (242nd overall) by the Tennessee Titans
 
I think they luck into 8-4. Probably be what we were under Manny look great one week then terrible the next. It will be interesting to see if they try to throw a pass further than the los next week.
 
Don't sleep on that Memphis game.

They have a really good QB & a high powered Offense.

Related: Did Randy Shannon's LB's make even one tackle yesterday?

Not sure I've ever seen less impactful play on the second level from one of the Big 3
 
I had them going 8-4 before yesterday. I think some things get addressed, but I have them 7-5 now.
 
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The tough games: ND, Clemson, UF and US

Turds will be playing out the string under their interim coach well before they get to Tally

Canes putting some nails in Billy Boy's coffin come Saturday

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It's strange when you look at the roster of the analysts reviewing this team.

Essentially they got excited because of back ups (MJJ of UGA, Brooks from Bama, Devante Brown from here Miami etc.) or starters at very mediocre programs transferred in (DJ Lundy from Colorado, DJU from Oregon State) and are starters. They got **** named transfers or from **** named programs. The assumption is that anyone from Bama is a great player cause they played for Saban regardless or their position on the depth chart. I think after this game it shows the players that left Bama weren't about the hard working football life and chose Bama because of Saban and the name and left quick and not sure any started or played much at all. Correct me if I'm wrong on snap count.
Conclusion down goes FSU.
They'll range anywhere between 6-6 and 7-5 pending how the ball bounces like it did for us, I'm leaning more towards 6-6.
I never like taking guys that couldn’t get on the field at other stops , regardless if it’s Bama or UGA. I’d much rather take a baller from a lower program that’s shown he can play. Fsu took Fisk and Verse from lower programs then hit on both. Some just assumed that would continue. But as we’ve learned “ the portal giveth, the portal taketh away”.
 
Don't sleep on that Memphis game.

They have a really good QB & a high powered Offense.

They can give FSU a run for their money the same way ULM did in 2019 & Jax ST did in 2021.

That's not a guaranteed W like some might assume.
That qb could’ve made a bunch of money if he’d hit the portal
 
What I said coming in 8-4.

People get too up then too down with this stuff but FSU is what I thought they were and they proved it. Now people will overreact the other way but nothing has changed. They’re a very flawed team with an inconsistent qb. But not as bad as they’ll be made out to be the next couple days.
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I agree 8-4 seems like a likely number, but I'm not sure that BC game is such a gimme' anymore after what we saw yesterday. Their defense looked SOFT against a fairly one-dimensional offense. Castellanos gave them a game last year against a much better defense; now Bill O'Brien is the head coach, that could be a much tougher game than people are saying. If they drop at home to BC and go 0-2 in the ACC after pumping their chests all off-season, things could all fall apart quickly.
 
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I agree 8-4 seems like a likely number, but I'm not sure that BC game is such a gimme' anymore after what we saw yesterday. Their defense looked SOFT against a fairly one-dimensional offense. Castellanos gave them a game last year against a much better defense; now Bill O'Brien is the head coach, that could be a much tougher game than people are saying. If they drop at home to BC and go 0-2 in the ACC after pumping their chests all off-season, things could all fall apart quickly.
They’re capable of losing to anyone , as @menmon said Memphis could be dangerous. BC gave them fits last year. 6-6 is possible but if I’m betting I’d say 8-4 is a good spot. Regardless they were never close to what the media had people to believe.
 
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They looked pretty terrible offensively yesterday but I’m hesitant to just assume they’re going to suck that bad the whole season. They could win anywhere from 6-9 games this year. Or ****, maybe they’ll be even worse. We can only hope.
I'd honestly be more worried about that defense based on what we saw yesterday. Those guys got pushed around against a fairly one-dimensional offense (16 pass to 36 rush).
 
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