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DAILY DEBATE: Is the House Settlement good or bad for Miami?
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It has the potential to be helpful. Let’s assume that university collectives are “capped” as to how much money they can spend on players.
What that leaves then are NIL deals from businesses that use players in a traditional marketing sense. These deals will likely favor universities in or near major metropolitan areas as they will be able to provide players with more access to deals.
So going back to what I wrote when NIL first started, NIL in this form this should benefit UM, USCw, Texas, UGA (close to Atlanta), LSU (New Orleans), etc…There is just more money in major metropolitan areas than elsewhere and if a university can line up those businesses to work with its players, it will have a major advantage
And I don’t believe there will ever be a cap on what players can make via traditional marketing. Any cap on this form of money making will be shot down by the courts.
All of this assumes that the rest of the settlement withstands legal challenges which are almost certain.
What that leaves then are NIL deals from businesses that use players in a traditional marketing sense. These deals will likely favor universities in or near major metropolitan areas as they will be able to provide players with more access to deals.
So going back to what I wrote when NIL first started, NIL in this form this should benefit UM, USCw, Texas, UGA (close to Atlanta), LSU (New Orleans), etc…There is just more money in major metropolitan areas than elsewhere and if a university can line up those businesses to work with its players, it will have a major advantage
And I don’t believe there will ever be a cap on what players can make via traditional marketing. Any cap on this form of money making will be shot down by the courts.
All of this assumes that the rest of the settlement withstands legal challenges which are almost certain.
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I don’t get how it doesn’t put everyone on the same playing field? I guess I don’t get how the cap works by team. Teams who just focus on football will be better off it seems than those trying to have a full athletic program
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The theory is that with everyone on a level field, it will once allow the bag schools to cheat with unreported bags as they did pre NIL.
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I think it returns the landscape to more of pre NIL where bag schools are able to fill in gaps with cash. The incentive is to return the game to where a few schools dominant with minimal interference
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My question is I wonder how the bag game will be implicated... I am sure the bag game is still around, but less people are willing to take the risk since there is a legal way to do it now. I think it could be better for Miami being in a big city you can show "legit" business deals easier than other places.
I also think the bag payments were typically less than 100k. Not the easiest to get 6 figures in cash to slip under the table. That is my hope anyways, that the settlement levels out some stuff and the bag stuff is not rampant because the old days where a guy like Patrick Peterson got 65k in a dufflebag are longgggg gone. These dudes getting millions now.
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This is a narrative that needs to die immediately within this fanbase. How did MIA win 5 NCs, if illegal bags/payments to players have always existed in the sport? This fanbase makes it seem like illegal bags only started with the hiring of Saban @ Bama. Lol
What matters more than preventing illegal payments to players, is the implementation of other parity increasing measures within the sport. That is the only reason why this program even became relevant in the first place. An unregulated, wild, wild, west, CFB landscape, is not going to be beneficial to this program in the long run. It only appears like it will because it increases this program's competitiveness in the short term, but in reality, that is only a mirage & fool's gold.
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They've NEVER existed to the extent they went into existence with Saban. Besides, sofla kids are mercenaries. It USED to be in to represent your city which is why we always got the top dade kids. That has disappeared and kids are more than happy to go to KKK country for some bags.
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I understand what you are saying, but I think most 'real' NIL (not the schools/boosters paying the kids to come) will come in either the form of major marketing deals from national corporations (ex: Nike) which won't care about city, but rather the exposure the kid will get (i.e. who cares if Alabama or Ohio State are not near big towns) or the smaller deals from local establishments that I think the small town places are just as likely if not more likely to give to players as even though the amount of companies may be smaller in Tuscaloosa than Miami, the amount of people that are going to care about the OL pitching the local steakhouse is going to be similar.
The first paragraph in the quote above is likely answering the Nike scenario I replied with?
As for the 2nd paragraph, I think that is a huge elephant in the room... obviously this was approved by a judge who (I would hope) understands more about the law than me, but it is hard for me to understand how limiting a players potential income when they are not an employee and not part of a CBA would stand up to legal challenges (unless Congress passes new laws).
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The judge that approved the settlement isn’t there to cosndier all the possible scenarios for future lawsuits. That is for the parties to resolve, or not. The judge is really just making sure the settlement (the money) is being counted and distributed fairly, and listening to any objections to the settlement.
The NC2A lawyers are TERRIBLE (Charles Barkley voice). They are really hoping that Congress helps them out and makes it harder to sue the NC2A. But there is a not so small problem in that wish. The people suing the NC2A are constituents of the congressional members. Congress has people on both sides of this issue; NC2A/Universities vs Voter/Students/Parents. I don’t see Congress bailing out the NC2A and then drawing the ire of their constituents.
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Hence you have Sankey and ND golfing with Trump. Looking for any way possible to regain control
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Lipstick on a pig, with the addition of a legal bow to "legitimize" it and give the illusion of fair and balanced competition.
All this is doing is adding more problems than it is resolving, while simultaneously smashing the pedal on widening the gap of
SEC/BIG 10 ---------------> everyone else
I have zero interest in the obvious envisioned plan of a professional league format of 2 snaggle toothed, over-hyped conferences. Hope Miami can win atleast 1 title in the small window of time before that becomes actualized.....because I'm watching games at Buff State and local CC's before I ever give one iota of a **** about 2 separate monopolies becoming super conferences being forced onto the viewer like a modernized lobotomy.
CSC being overseen by the conferences themselves is a direct conflict of interest that will be right on par with the NCAA's bias and ineptitude for the same untouchable programs to regain the lead that they were losing on parity. Jim Phillips is already a fleshlight for the P2, who's gonna give a **** about the ACC's input at this new table lmao
No actual representation for the players, the "independent employees" who provide services for 501(c)(3) tax exempt organizations is a complete farce & lack of respect to intelligence and common sense in and of itself.
The irony of the adults in the room, who blamed the kids for "ruining the sport"; doing exactly that is as hilarious as it is tragic.
It's a do as I say, not as I do kind of world though. Money talks.
All this is doing is adding more problems than it is resolving, while simultaneously smashing the pedal on widening the gap of
SEC/BIG 10 ---------------> everyone else
I have zero interest in the obvious envisioned plan of a professional league format of 2 snaggle toothed, over-hyped conferences. Hope Miami can win atleast 1 title in the small window of time before that becomes actualized.....because I'm watching games at Buff State and local CC's before I ever give one iota of a **** about 2 separate monopolies becoming super conferences being forced onto the viewer like a modernized lobotomy.
CSC being overseen by the conferences themselves is a direct conflict of interest that will be right on par with the NCAA's bias and ineptitude for the same untouchable programs to regain the lead that they were losing on parity. Jim Phillips is already a fleshlight for the P2, who's gonna give a **** about the ACC's input at this new table lmao
No actual representation for the players, the "independent employees" who provide services for 501(c)(3) tax exempt organizations is a complete farce & lack of respect to intelligence and common sense in and of itself.
The irony of the adults in the room, who blamed the kids for "ruining the sport"; doing exactly that is as hilarious as it is tragic.
It's a do as I say, not as I do kind of world though. Money talks.
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If you don't understand the first sentence you typed, then you haven't paid attention to the last 3 decades of college football.
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One major hurdle cleared en route to the ACC getting shredded like a Lance Guidry defense.
UM needs to leave its current untenable conference situation for either the B1G or SEC.
We have plenty enough advantages and resources to be successful in the sports that matter -- House Settlement or no House Settlement
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Yep. But it’s going to take a lot more than this. The US Supreme Court will stand in the way of any law which unfairly limits how much money one group of people in society can make when everyone else has no such limit. Even passing a law won’t work if the law is unconstitutional.
What the NC2A and its acolytes refuse to accept is that the issue is one of free market capitalism vs restricting income. We have a court that believes in free market capitalism. And frankly, anyone who argues otherwise does not believe in the free market, even those people on CIS. Many just want their entertainment and it causes them too much mental pain to understand the issue beyond the surface level.
Just on this thread alone we will see scores of people who call themselves capitalist but then argue “I used to like college football but the athletes making money has ruined it for me”. Really?? Does it ruin watching tennis for you? Of course not because you don’t care about your favorite school’s tennis team. These people are not capitalists because frankly, they don’t understand the meaning of free market capitalism.