DAILY DEBATE: Greatest CB in (U) Miami history?

[AtlAtty]

I’m going McNeil:
-2x Nat’l Champion
-Consensus All American
-Pro Bowler
-NFL Interception Leader (Not sure how he didn’t make the pro bowl this year)
-45 total turnovers created at the NFL level
-Made my Chicago Bears’ lives a living ****

Not sure any CB has this type of resume. Only thing missing is a Super Bowl; although, Antrel could make 1/2 an argument b/c he played CB early on b4 moving to S at the NFL level.

McNeil was also very impactful off the field as a pro. I know that isn’t a criteria but it is part of his legacy.

 

[SWFLHurricane]

I’d have to go Buchanon based on people I’ve watched play. Probably a little biased because of how great they were as well but his speed was incredible to watch

Also his ruthlessness towards Al Golden

He still has bones to pick with UM...not only with Goldens hiring. Didn't even come to his UM HOF Induction.

 

[ddann]

 

[SWFLHurricane]

@SWFLHurricane No trolling, but major credit goes to Butch for finding & recruiting Duane Starks & Ryan McNeil.

He no doubt had an Elite level eye for Defensive talent.

ALL his assistant coaches were Grade A recruiters as well. Chuck and CJ basically worked as a team. Chuck (with Butch's blessing) offered Hester a full schollie when he was a frosh in HS. Talk about an early Grade A evaluation.

 

[bacane]

Unfortunately, it’s an underwhelming list. So many other incredible position groups filled with great college performers and NFL Hall of Famers. This group isn’t same level.

 

[cway313]

Unfortunately, it’s an underwhelming list. So many other incredible position groups filled with great college performers and NFL Hall of Famers. This group isn’t same level.

Naw just a very short list. Corner is without question the hardest position to elicit a HOF career. Doesn't help that we've had almost 20 consecutive years of ineptitude.

 

[MiamiBusiness]

Give me Buchanan with the added perk that he was an excellent punt returner.

 

[Luke Caneswalker]

Rolle. I remember that weeknight game against Pitt when he put the clamps on Larry Fitzgerald.

 

[JHallCanes]

Naw just a very short list. Corner is without question the hardest position to elicit a HOF career. Doesn't help that we've had almost 20 consecutive years of ineptitude.

I think Rumph gets overlooked as well because some of our fans have spent a lot of time hating on him for his recruiting and coaching, underwhelming pro career etc

First round pick and a **** of a size/skill combination. Could have probably been a better safety in the NFL perhaps but I dunno

That was one seriously ****** era for the 49ers as well

 

[JHallCanes]

Rolle. I remember that weeknight game against Pitt when he put the clamps on Larry Fitzgerald.

The one in Pittsburgh for Thanksgiving? Even growing up in the North that was the coldest I’ve ever been in my life

People in here talk about the Sun Bowl showing their feminine sides

 

[DTP]

If you’re counting pro career, it’s Starks. He’s the only one who had a really successful career as a corner.

 

[SWFLHurricane]

Rolle. I remember that weeknight game against Pitt when he put the clamps on Larry Fitzgerald.

He put the clamps on Megatron as well....then duplicated it in the NFL on both.

 

[FuriousStyles]

Since this list is for what they did in college and NFL, I voted for Starks. McNeil a close 2nd. If list was only for what they did in college, probably go with Buchanon. Rolle was really good too. Had one of the most dominating games I've seen as a corner against FSU in 2004.

I believe it was his “A Football Life” episode leading up to his HOF induction, Megatron talked about how Trel completely dominated him in their match up and how he never played against anyone that could do that.

Add in what he did against Larry Fitzgerald in their match up he was different. I like PBuch more as pure cover corner. But from a total package… coverage, blitzing from the CB or Nickel position, run support and taking somebody’s head off on special teams… Trel’s your guy.

Oh… nowhere near the return guy as other DBs we’ve had but he was more than serviceable there too.

 

[mcnaire2004]

 

[Warrior808]

The criteria can be College or Pro's.
I personally went with both to make my choice.

For me, it's Duane Starks.

Mostly, based on what he did in the NFL. Being apart of the greatest Defense in NFL history, the 2000 Ravens Defense, he had one of the best & most underrated seasons for a CB ever.
- 49tks 23PD's & 6INT'S
which culminated in one of the most fitting moments of his career, the Pick 6 in Superbowl XXXV.

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Something he had done in college as well...
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He gets overlooked for the impact he had on that (Ravens Defense), because of guys like Ray Lewis, Rod Woodson, Samuel Adams, Tony Siragusa etc, but he was a major contributor & catalyst to why the Ravens 00 Defense was so dominant. He & Chris McAlister were absolute Lockdown Cover Corners.

Due to the totality of his career, he's #1 IMO.


There's also a really good arguments to be made for Ryan McNeil & Roland Smith, if you're just going by what they did at Miami.

But what say you?

@Brooklyndee who you got? (cant vote for yourself)

 

[San Amaro Dr]

Mike Williams.

 

[Negro-Wan Kanobi]

You know why I'm here.

 

[Memnon]

Surprised to see no Robert Bailey love.

 

[ddann]

If you’re counting pro career, it’s Starks. He’s the only one who had a really successful career as a corner.

The only one? Really?

Ever heard of Burgess Owens? Ronnie Lippett? Ryan McNeil? Robert Bailey?

 

[Brooklyndee]

@Brooklyndee who you got? (cant vote for yourself)

I'm gonna leave this one alone. Some things I should just stay out of.