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Manny sucks donkey balls and should have never been hired but no way anyone can look at our players on the field and think we’re just a coach away . We need a competent coach and a couple years unless all we’re talking about is winning the coastal.
 
Babscanes said:
This argument has been beaten to death already.. sorry not to be mean. Most are in agreement that the coaching is the main issue and player development. Not to say Rivals, ESPN, etc are an exact science either with all these "recruiting rankings" crap
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Kam Kinchens is a high four star kid. Ball hit him directly in the hands for a pick on the first drive, dropped, UVA scores.

Borregales is the #1 kicking recruit in the country. Doinks a chip shot off the upright for a loss.

I'm not saying these kids stink, or they won't be good, or any of that. Just pointing out that you guys thinking this is 100% because of coaching are taking the easy way out. Kids are in position to make plays. They don't make them. That's not coaching, it's....something else. I'm honestly convinced this program is cursed. It's the only thing that makes sense. How does that ball go RIGHT THROUGH Marcus Clarke's hands and not only is it not an INT, but it's a TD to a kid with his facemask in the grass. What in the absolute fvck?

Anyway, this is a mess from top to bottom. We all know that, and we know Manny is a dead man walking. As he should be, he's the head of the snake and when it goes bad, he's the one who has to go. But there are a LOT of plays out there that are not made by kids who are in perfect position to make them. They just don't. I can't explain it. It's not Stephen Field's fault that a ball hits Will Mallory directly between the 8 and 5 in the middle of his chest for a 14-3 lead and he drops it. It's just not. That's not coaching. That kid was recruited by 30 top programs, and on the NFL's radar before the season. Now, all of a sudden, he can't catch Covid in a New York nursing home. It makes absolutely no sense to me how this program can ALWAYS take one step forward, two steps back. Every single time. There was not a single nanosecond that I thought Borregales would make that kick. Not for an instant. Why? Why am I so goddammed calloused that I expect failure at every single turn. My wife yelled at me during the game because she says I laugh when bad things happen. I dead-*** do not even realize I do it. I ******* laugh when we drop passes or miss field goals or drop interceptions, and it's involuntary. That's how broken we all are mentally watching this bull**** year after year. It's honestly comical how often we **** up that it makes me chuckle when it happens, over and over.

So yeah, we need a new coach. Yeah, Mario would be a godsend. But this "13th best roster" **** is for the birds. Bubba Bolden makes up a big chunk of that ranking. Back to back plays in week 1, he has an INT go through his hands (in perfect position) and completely whiffs on a 6 foot freshman QB on a nicely designed safety blitz that got home. Manny's fault? Nope. You're a borderline 5-star player on this supposed 13th ranked roster. Go make a ******* play.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Kam Kinchens is a high four star kid. Ball hit him directly in the hands for a pick on the first drive, dropped, UVA scores.

Borregales is the #1 kicking recruit in the country. Doinks a chip shot off the upright for a loss.

I'm not saying these kids stink, or they won't be good, or any of that. Just pointing out that you guys thinking this is 100% because of coaching are taking the easy way out. Kids are in position to make plays. They don't make them. That's not coaching, it's....something else. I'm honestly convinced this program is cursed. It's the only thing that makes sense. How does that ball go RIGHT THROUGH Marcus Clarke's hands and not only is it not an INT, but it's a TD to a kid with his facemask in the grass. What in the absolute fvck?

Anyway, this is a mess from top to bottom. We all know that, and we know Manny is a dead man walking. As he should be, he's the head of the snake and when it goes bad, he's the one who has to go. But there are a LOT of plays out there that are not made by kids who are in perfect position to make them. They just don't. I can't explain it. It's not Stephen Field's fault that a ball hits Will Mallory directly between the 8 and 5 in the middle of his chest for a 14-3 lead and he drops it. It's just not. That's not coaching. That kid was recruited by 30 top programs, and on the NFL's radar before the season. Now, all of a sudden, he can't catch Covid in a New York nursing home. It makes absolutely no sense to me how this program can ALWAYS take one step forward, two steps back. Every single time. There was not a single nanosecond that I thought Borregales would make that kick. Not for an instant. Why? Why am I so goddammed calloused that I expect failure at every single turn. My wife yelled at me during the game because she says I laugh when bad things happen. I dead-*** do not even realize I do it. I ******* laugh when we drop passes or miss field goals or drop interceptions, and it's involuntary. That's how broken we all are mentally watching this bull**** year after year. It's honestly comical how often we **** up that it makes me chuckle when it happens, over and over.

So yeah, we need a new coach. Yeah, Mario would be a godsend. But this "13th best roster" **** is for the birds. Bubba Bolden makes up a big chunk of that ranking. Back to back plays in week 1, he has an INT go through his hands (in perfect position) and completely whiffs on a 6 foot freshman QB on a nicely designed safety blitz that got home. Manny's fault? Nope. You're a borderline 5-star player on this supposed 13th ranked roster. Go make a ******* play.
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I agree with a lot here man. It seems we are cursed. Guys dropping int's and easy passes. year after year too. That's not on the coaches but overall the product stinks more from coaching issues than players. But that's just my opinion and I could be wrong.
 
Not one jr or senior on this roster will be drafted before the 3rd round and if they do some nfl team really screwed that pick up.going into the season talk was we had an experienced team well that doesn't matter much if most of those older guys aren't worth a crap
 
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This is the parroted line. of course we have talented players to work with but we by no means have overwhelming talent than anyone we play outside of probably 2 teams, Duke and CCS. I could care less about Recruiting rankings.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Kam Kinchens is a high four star kid. Ball hit him directly in the hands for a pick on the first drive, dropped, UVA scores.

Borregales is the #1 kicking recruit in the country. Doinks a chip shot off the upright for a loss.

I'm not saying these kids stink, or they won't be good, or any of that. Just pointing out that you guys thinking this is 100% because of coaching are taking the easy way out. Kids are in position to make plays. They don't make them. That's not coaching, it's....something else. I'm honestly convinced this program is cursed. It's the only thing that makes sense. How does that ball go RIGHT THROUGH Marcus Clarke's hands and not only is it not an INT, but it's a TD to a kid with his facemask in the grass. What in the absolute fvck?

Anyway, this is a mess from top to bottom. We all know that, and we know Manny is a dead man walking. As he should be, he's the head of the snake and when it goes bad, he's the one who has to go. But there are a LOT of plays out there that are not made by kids who are in perfect position to make them. They just don't. I can't explain it. It's not Stephen Field's fault that a ball hits Will Mallory directly between the 8 and 5 in the middle of his chest for a 14-3 lead and he drops it. It's just not. That's not coaching. That kid was recruited by 30 top programs, and on the NFL's radar before the season. Now, all of a sudden, he can't catch Covid in a New York nursing home. It makes absolutely no sense to me how this program can ALWAYS take one step forward, two steps back. Every single time. There was not a single nanosecond that I thought Borregales would make that kick. Not for an instant. Why? Why am I so goddammed calloused that I expect failure at every single turn. My wife yelled at me during the game because she says I laugh when bad things happen. I dead-*** do not even realize I do it. I ******* laugh when we drop passes or miss field goals or drop interceptions, and it's involuntary. That's how broken we all are mentally watching this bull**** year after year. It's honestly comical how often we **** up that it makes me chuckle when it happens, over and over.

So yeah, we need a new coach. Yeah, Mario would be a godsend. But this "13th best roster" **** is for the birds. Bubba Bolden makes up a big chunk of that ranking. Back to back plays in week 1, he has an INT go through his hands (in perfect position) and completely whiffs on a 6 foot freshman QB on a nicely designed safety blitz that got home. Manny's fault? Nope. You're a borderline 5-star player on this supposed 13th ranked roster. Go make a ******* play.
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I agree with mostly everything you said, but there is something to be said about coaching. I can pretty much guarantee our players go to another school and light it up. I cant think of any good examples, so maybe Cager. He was basically the father of Wiggins and Pope. But he went to Georgia and started doing very well. I believe he was their #1 or #2 WR that year.

The kids DO just need to go out there and make a **** play. But let's say if we're struggling with catching the ball, is it because the talent is trash and are headcases and can't catch or is it because Manuelita Diaz-Canel Come Pinga Jr doesn't have them practicing the right things or often enough. If they are out there singing kumbaya my lord, kumbaya and going over their civics lessons at Top Golf instead of doing Oklahoma drills and putting jugs machines into each players dorm rooms, what would you expect the outcome to be? If you don't use it, you lose it. That can be said for anything, including football skills.

Mallory has been such a let down. I thought he had a higher ceiling than B Jordan. Don't know what the **** is up there. But I'm with others that think he should sit until he starts working his way back to form (if ever).

I'm with you though. The whole thing where we can predict what is about to happen next has got us deluded and literally losing it mentally as fans. The safety was predictable, the missed FG was predictable.

I think we all expect failure at every turn. It's honestly depressing. The '21 class definitely doesn't deserve that.
 
Unfortunately, the hype-masters have vastly oversold Miami's talent. Too early to touch on the frosh class, but of players likely to leave for the draft the only one worth a **** is the Aussie punter. A few will be in camps and perhaps hang around, but that's about it.
 
I really like the last class- lots of impact players there. Still certain position groups that are devoid of talent. OL is terrible. LBer is terrible. Corner is eh. DE is really bad. We have a strong group at RB (when healthy) WR Safety QB TE DT

By no means is this a complete roster.
 
GOCANES$ said:
Miami current roster ranks 13th NATIONALLY. 2nd in Acc behind Clemson.

All we need is a COACH
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It doesn’t matter. We could be 1st nationally everywhere, but if our offensive line does not play better then the offense will not work. Period. The entire wide receiver, running back, quarterback, and tight end groups could be 5 stars. IT WOULD NOT MATTER. We would still be ineffective.

And we will continue to be ineffective on offense no matter the coach, no matter the scheme until either the existing OL talent improves or new talent comes in. Which might be years.
 
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Go back and look at 17-18 classes, whiff central by rickety and manny..not hard to see why we stink now as all those guys are upper classmen
 
Need to drastically improve the lines with bigger, stronger players. It is fixable quickly with a new good coach and the transfer portal.

but yes, coach and assistants are the biggest problem
 
Question for the op. If your 4 stars due to lack of good coaching do not develope or regress do we really have better talent than schools that develope their 3 stars
 
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