Cristobal

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I am by no means a Cristobal slurper. He can be a maddening gameday coach. He goes hyper conservative at the most inopportune times and often can't grasp the basic fundamentals of clock management, occasionally resulting in disaster. In so many ways, reminiscent of Butch Davis.

But the way he completely changed the talent level and trajectory of the program is undeniable and fairly remarkable. For all that he lacks in gameday acumen he adjusted to the NIL/portal era as well if not the best of any major college coach. He's a relentless recruiter. And man does he bleed orange and green. He will make this program a champion or die trying.

You could argue Randy Shannon did too but his ego and bluster came first. He didn't understand the necessity of forming relationships and being a salesman. He was "my way or the highway" to a ridiculous point. He was also an awful gameday coach. Al Golden was frankly all about Al Golden, and didn't even bother trying to make the adjustment to South Florida recruiting or major conference ball. Richt had some juice going but age and health caught up with him. Manny was in over his head.

Now ideally you want a coach who's a program builder, recruiter, and a brilliant gameday mind. But those guys don't grow on trees. I'm old enough to remember lots of guys here sweating the likes of Tom Herman, Napier, Norvell, Sumlin, et al. Would you rather have any of those guys now? There's no a guarantee a guy like Petersen or Whittingham would have success here, and they know that as well. As they haven't shown any interested in heading east.

The most important part of building a program is recruiting and infrastructure, and Mario is killing it. I think that's a fair trade off from the infuriating gameday stuff. It's not ideal but it is that it is. Again I'll mention Butch. He built the program to the point a figurehead was able to take the helm and dominate college football for the better part of the next 3 years (before completely destroying it of course).

Point is, Mario turned this thing around pretty **** **** quickly. Middle Tennessee seems like a lifetime ago (although I remember it like it was yesterday). Think about the roster back then. At least half those guys wouldn't be in the 2 deep today. It's been a pretty remarkable turnaround and more importantly it looks sustainable. Recruiting is very good and young guys are stepping up. And we know we can dominate the portal. It's Mario or bust.
 
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Mario has plenty of flaws, but his greatest strength is that he will command a budget to operate that nobody else short of Saban would be granted at UM. That should be good enough to put us in the playoff conversation on an annual basis.
 
He has done a great job building the program on and off the field. He has had a hard time getting his staff right, but I think he finally has it. He will never be a good in game coach. If he makes the playoffs, give him a raise, not a extension. He still has plenty of years left on his contract.
 
He has done a great job building the program on and off the field. He has had a hard time getting his staff right, but I think he finally has it. He will never be a good in game coach. If he makes the playoffs, give him a raise, not an extension. He still has plenty of years left on his contract.
To his credit, where he makes a mistake or something needs to be fixed he acts without hesitation.
 
Mario is exclusively built for the UM HC job. The typical tenor of this board is the harsh reality Mario faces from not only the fan base, but the talent base & their circle & obviously the nation at large. Stingy donors & BOT that have largely treated football as a burden. Negative recruiting from everyone including our own fan base.

The fact that he was able to get that contract & the financial support he has is a miraculous achievement in itself. The sheer toxicity surrounding this job would drive any man crazy. Luckily Mario was born that way. Saban literally quit on the dolphins cause he couldn't handle not being worshipped by every one involved.

Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, & Ryan Day have all shown themselves to be too soft shouldered for this job. Dabo in Miami: LOL. If a Jimmy Johnson, with his (updated) football acumen, bravado to match his players, balls to stand up to anyone who tries to interfere with his operation & his personality that can mesh with the area is out there then go get that mf.

He ain't perfect with OBVIOUS flaws but I personally respect & appreciate his absolute, bordering on manic, dedication to his job & his ability to endure this job in this environment with all it entails
 
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Mario’s fatal flaw is being a terrible gameday coach, who continues to make first year head coach mistakes. Taking bad timeouts, horrible clock management, playing to not lose instead of winning. He was trying to run out the clock at the start of the 4th quarter, you just can’t do these things and expect to win a lot of big games it’s just really frustrating watching this knowing we have a really good team that can win it all.
 
Mario’s fatal flaw is being a terrible gameday coach, who continues to make first year head coach mistakes. Taking bad timeouts, horrible clock management, playing to not lose instead of winning. He was trying to run out the clock at the start of the 4th quarter, you just can’t do these things and expect to win a lot of big games it’s just really frustrating watching this knowing we have a really good team that can win it all.
you have 3 timeouts to use per half. using the timeouts at that time is not because he just wants to waste them. It means someone messed up something easy and he needs to take it to save a perceived problem that's about to happen

so I don't get the knock on when he's using timeouts... the knock on better coaching by the coordinators to avoid those things - for sure
 
I am by no means a Cristobal slurper. He can be a maddening gameday coach. He goes hyper conservative at the most inopportune times and often can't grasp the basic fundamentals of clock management, occasionally resulting in disaster. In so many ways, reminiscent of Butch Davis.

But the way he completely changed the talent level and trajectory of the program is undeniable and fairly remarkable. For all that he lacks in gameday acumen he adjusted to the NIL/portal era as well if not the best of any major college coach. He's a relentless recruiter. And man does he bleed orange and green. He will make this program a champion or die trying.

You could argue Randy Shannon did too but his ego and bluster came first. He didn't understand the necessity of forming relationships and being a salesman. He was "my way or the highway" to a ridiculous point. He was also an awful gameday coach. Al Golden was frankly all about Al Golden, and didn't even bother trying to make the adjustment to South Florida recruiting or major conference ball. Richt had some juice going but age and health caught up with him. Manny was in over his head.

Now ideally you want a coach who's a program builder, recruiter, and a brilliant gameday mind. But those guys don't grow on trees. I'm old enough to remember lots of guys here sweating the likes of Tom Herman, Napier, Norvell, Sumlin, et al. Would you rather have any of those guys now? There's no a guarantee a guy like Petersen or Whittingham would have success here, and they know that as well. As they haven't shown any interested in heading east.

The most important part of building a program is recruiting and infrastructure, and Mario is killing it. I think that's a fair trade off from the infuriating gameday stuff. It's not ideal but it is that it is. Again I'll mention Butch. He built the program to the point a figurehead was able to take the helm and dominate college football for the better part of the next 3 years (before completely destroying it of course).

Point is, Mario turned this thing around pretty **** **** quickly. Middle Tennessee seems like a lifetime ago (although I remember it like it was yesterday). Think about the roster back then. At least half those guys wouldn't be in the 2 deep today. It's been a pretty remarkable turnaround and more importantly it looks sustainable. Recruiting is very good and young guys are stepping up. And we know we can dominate the portal. It's Mario or bust.
Half? 85% of the 2022 roster was not d1 caliber. Manny was here 7 years and destroyed that roster and culture.
 
Mario has plenty of flaws, but his greatest strength is that he will command a budget to operate that nobody else short of Saban would be granted at UM. That should be good enough to put us in the playoff conversation on an annual basis.
We've only had a qb I felt confident in in 2 of the last 15 years which is when I started following. Mario knows how to put a team together.
 
Here’s what I’ll say about Mario- he won a conference title at FIU and finished Top 5 at Oregon.

The ability to install a winning culture in different situations is the truest sign of a real coach.

Love what Mario has done but man his in game coaching and conservative tendencies when the game gets tight is maddening

It will cost us a game or two that it shouldn’t

Last night we mostly dominated. Should’ve been a 35-14 or 28-14 type of win
 
100% agree about everything said about Mario Cristobal. He is the perfect coach for the Miami Hurricanes, yet not a perfect coach. No coach really is. Over the last decade or more everyone threw out a a lot of names of the hot coaches of the month. I don’t think any of those coaches have won anything of significance. Tom Herman is now the coach at FAU. Figure that one out. No idea where Justin Fuente is.

My hope for Mario is he updates his mindset and sees the need to put good teams away when the opportunity arises.

This is when he might win a national championship.
 
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Manny should have never been hired. Kiffin 100% should have been the choice, while Manny gained experience as a head coach elsewhere for 5–10 years before possibly bringing him in after Kiffin left for the NFL or something. Oh well, it set the program back a couple of years, and he gave Mario next to nothing to work with. But we’re in a great position with Mario, it just took longer than it should have.
 
I knew when we hired Mario that eventually we would at least be able to look like we belong on the field w/ the big boys because of his ability to acquire talent(especially in the trenches) .. game day coaching leaves much to be desired but we’ve come a long way from what Bryce Young and Bama did to us on opening day years ago 💯
 
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