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Could we have King for TWO years?

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DTP said:
You guys realize Joe Burrow got picked first this year? Ahead of Tua Tagovailoa, who everyone and their mom had going number one. Burrow literally went from undrafted FA status to #1 overall pick with one great season. It's hardly a stretch to believe that a guy who has already had more success than Burrow did in his first 4 seasons to make a jump to the top of the list. Even if he doesn't surpass Lawrence or Fields, who else is head and shoulders better than him right now?
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It's not so much about who is better as it is that he'd be one of the 2-3 shortest QBs in the NFL. Things are changing a bit but GMs are still hesitant about short QBs. Unless he puts up Heisman-caliber numbers (which he is fully capable of) I think he is a 3rd round or later.

Look at Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray. In his one year at Wisconsin, Wilson's line was 33 TDs, 4 INTs, 3175 yards, 72.8% completion, 191.8 rating. He added about 400 yards and another 7 TDs on the ground. Even with those terrific stats, he went in the 3rd round.

Here's Kyler Murray's insane numbers: 42 TDs, 7 INTs, 4361 yards passing, 69% completion, 199.2 QB rating. Add 1001 yards and 12 TDs.

It's entirely possible that King can put up Murray numbers but I just don't think the rest of the team this year is good enough to get him there. Next year I believe it will be. If he "just" puts up Russell Wilson numbers this year, that's good enough to win a national championship. I don't know if it propels him into a top 5 pick though. I think he needs to put up Murray - like stats to overcome the bias against height and be a 1st round pick, which is much more likely next year than this year.
 
Mandingo said:
I would argue that he brings more value than Fields at the next level. Kick returner, WR skills, and a better 10 game stat Season than Fields as a QB. If he kills it in 2020 at Miami, I’m not sure Fields gets a better grade.
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Poptimus said:
Tagovailoa only “fell” to 5th overall because of the hip injury. Otherwise he’s going first or second even with Burrow having the greatest statistical year ever.

King may be asked to change positions at the pro level. Yes, Kyler Murray exists. He is an exception, greater than two standard deviations from the mean. If Jalen Hurts was a 2nd rounder I think King’s realistic projection without Hurts’ measurables is 3rd round or lower.
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I doubt a pro team will draft him that high (e.g., first round) if they expect him to change positions to kick returner or WR.
 
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TimeB0mb said:
It's not so much about who is better as it is that he'd be one of the 2-3 shortest QBs in the NFL. Things are changing a bit but GMs are still hesitant about short QBs. Unless he puts up Heisman-caliber numbers (which he is fully capable of) I think he is a 3rd round or later.

Look at Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray. In his one year at Wisconsin, Wilson's line was 33 TDs, 4 INTs, 3175 yards, 72.8% completion, 191.8 rating. He added about 400 yards and another 7 TDs on the ground. Even with those terrific stats, he went in the 3rd round.

Here's Kyler Murray's insane numbers: 42 TDs, 7 INTs, 4361 yards passing, 69% completion, 199.2 QB rating. Add 1001 yards and 12 TDs.

It's entirely possible that King can put up Murray numbers but I just don't think the rest of the team this year is good enough to get him there. Next year I believe it will be. If he "just" puts up Russell Wilson numbers this year, that's good enough to win a national championship. I don't know if it propels him into a top 5 pick though. I think he needs to put up Murray - like stats to overcome the bias against height and be a 1st round pick, which is much more likely next year than this year.
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Had Russell Wilson had a season like that in more recent history, he’d have been drafted earlier. I mean the short QB stigma was still very much a thing when he entered the draft. And while I think Murray numbers might be a stretch for King, if healthy, he should far outpace his passing numbers at Houston. He’s never played with skill players near the level of guys he’s playing with at Miami. He was literally relied upon to do everything at Houston whereas he’ll have a lot more help here.
I’m not saying the guy is going to be Joe Burrow but it wouldn’t be surprising to see him play his way into first round consideration. Especially if Kyler Murray has a great second season in Arizona. NFL teams always jump on the bandwagon. Murray got picked #1 on the back of Baker Mayfield’s success the year prior. Look at some of the bums NFL teams draft in the first round. I’m not talking about guys who were great in college but busts in the league. NFL teams draft guys who weren’t even great in college because they have an attribute they fall in love with. A guy like Josh Rosen was an OK college quarterback and Josh Allen was garbage in college. If Murray lights it up in Arizona, everyone will be looking for that dynamic playmaker because that’s what NFL teams do. Copy what works for someone else.
 
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