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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

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grover said:
I don't follow this like you do. Perhaps I could see squinting why SEC would favor UNC. But why would the BiG? Shouldn't we be above UNC now that we've shown we're committed to CFP and Tournament level talent and have the budgets and staffs to back it up?
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Seriously?

Look, I love my alma mater, but we are only a private school. UNC is a public school in a great market that currently is unrepresented by either the SEC or Big 10. North Carolina is the 9th largest state, Florida is the 3rd largest state, so it's not like they would be expanding into Vermont.

There are probably a dozen or more factors to evaluate when ranking expansion candidates. On the Big 10 side, the academic ranking of UNC really stands out. And on the SEC side (no matter how much some of our younger posters try to deny this motivation) the SEC is still looking to put the old Confederacy back together, and they only need the states of NC and VA to finish things up.

Ultimately, people need to realize that no matter what they think of the logic, UNC is and has been the top choice of both the SEC and Big 10. Regardless of "last year's CFP game". Regardless of "this year's ACC seedings". Regardless of anything, both of those conferences would kill to get UNC, but only one (the SEC) will prevail.
 


Per OSU's 247 site:

"Carter told trustees he had an inappropriate relationship 'with someone seeking public resources to support her personal business,' according to a statement from OSU. The board subsequently accepted Carter's offer to resign.

Good thing for all involved is that Ohio State — like Michigan, Notre Dame and Penn State — is very experienced and adept at sweeping these matters under the rug
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Seriously?

Look, I love my alma mater, but we are only a private school. UNC is a public school in a great market that currently is unrepresented by either the SEC or Big 10. North Carolina is the 9th largest state, Florida is the 3rd largest state, so it's not like they would be expanding into Vermont.

There are probably a dozen or more factors to evaluate when ranking expansion candidates. On the Big 10 side, the academic ranking of UNC really stands out. And on the SEC side (no matter how much some of our younger posters try to deny this motivation) the SEC is still looking to put the old Confederacy back together, and they only need the states of NC and VA to finish things up.

Ultimately, people need to realize that no matter what they think of the logic, UNC is and has been the top choice of both the SEC and Big 10. Regardless of "last year's CFP game". Regardless of "this year's ACC seedings". Regardless of anything, both of those conferences would kill to get UNC, but only one (the SEC) will prevail.
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You could very well be correct. But yes, I think it's a serious question. I understand SEC already has UF. So I can see the argument they're already well represented in the Florida media market and have higher urgency to add North Carolina or Virginia over Miami. But for the BiG, I would think access to both the media market and recruiting base would make Miami more important.

One of my assumptions is that they added Maryland for the DC market and Rutgers for the NYC market despite the fact neither was a dominant sport program. Assuming that is true, then by extension Miami should be very high on their list, with a hot and growing market and a winning tradition in sports.
 
Tony4Canes said:
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Homie got tricked out of position by a podcaster lmaooo…….he replaced the last president they had who abruptly resigned after the board of trustees refused to change their ways

According to The Columbus Dispatch, this was due to Johnson deciding "she could no longer work with Les Wexner and certain trustees who are loyal to him and who push for his interests" Sources told The Columbus Dispatch that "Johnson and university leaders agreed not to speak publicly about the details surrounding her resignation", and she was replaced by Walter E. Carter Jr. the following school year.
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Tony4Canes said:
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Martha Stewart Nod GIF
 
grover said:
You could very well be correct. But yes, I think it's a serious question. I understand SEC already has UF. So I can see the argument they're already well represented in the Florida media market and have higher urgency to add North Carolina or Virginia over Miami. But for the BiG, I would think access to both the media market and recruiting base would make Miami more important.

One of my assumptions is that they added Maryland for the DC market and Rutgers for the NYC market despite the fact neither was a dominant sport program. Assuming that is true, then by extension Miami should be very high on their list, with a hot and growing market and a winning tradition in sports.
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You got the wrong NY team, brother.

Syracuse coming into the super secret megaconference hotter than a Strike Eagle after dancing with a half-drunk Kuwaiti Hornet. That powerhouse1959 team led by the Heisman-winning Elmira Express has more Natties than both Rutgers and UNC combined. Unless you're the sort of pinko that counts the 1869 Rutgers team that went 1-1 against Princeton when nobody else played foosball (which I and all legitimate Americans do not acknowledge).
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
You got the wrong NY team, brother.

Syracuse coming into the super secret megaconference hotter than a Strike Eagle after dancing with a half-drunk Kuwaiti Hornet. That powerhouse1959 team led by the Heisman-winning Elmira Express has more Natties than both Rutgers and UNC combined. Unless you're the sort of pinko that counts the 1869 Rutgers team that went 1-1 against Princeton when nobody else played foosball (which I and all legitimate Americans do not acknowledge).
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Ha, yeah they definitely picked a lemon in Rutgers, monkey boy or no monkey boy. But I do thank Schiano for Hetherman.

I didn't say the BiG has pulled off their media market strategy (yet at least). I said they have a media market strategy that would favor the Canes. I don't think that's O&G Kool-Aid talking. To me it seems obvious Miami is the better play for national recognition and recruiting for the BiG because they don't have a Florida team yet. I believe Miami/Florida is the more attractive bet than Raleigh/NC.
 
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grover said:
You could very well be correct. But yes, I think it's a serious question. I understand SEC already has UF. So I can see the argument they're already well represented in the Florida media market and have higher urgency to add North Carolina or Virginia over Miami. But for the BiG, I would think access to both the media market and recruiting base would make Miami more important.

One of my assumptions is that they added Maryland for the DC market and Rutgers for the NYC market despite the fact neither was a dominant sport program. Assuming that is true, then by extension Miami should be very high on their list, with a hot and growing market and a winning tradition in sports.
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Yes, but those assumptions are not only old, they did not work out very well. The Big 10 offered a partial share to both Rutgers and Maryland with the promise they would get full shares around 2020. And then the Big 10 used COVID to delay those full shares. The Big 10 also offered half-shares to Washington and Oregon, and neither of those markets are as big as North Carolina.

The old days are over. The Big 10's wishlist starts with UNC (after Notre Dame, of course), though Miami isn't super-far down the list.
 
Not sure if this has been reported elsewhere, but was listening to the local sports talk station in Athens and the morning show hosts were interviewing Chuck Dowdle and Dowdle mentioned that at the SEC men’s basketball tournament, Greg Sankey was asked at a press conference about further expansion and Sankey said there wouldn’t be any further expansion while he’s commissioner.

Makes me feel like he might resign before the next round of tv contracts for the conferences.
 
one98d said:
Not sure if this has been reported elsewhere, but was listening to the local sports talk station in Athens and the morning show hosts were interviewing Chuck Dowdle and Dowdle mentioned that at the SEC men’s basketball tournament, Greg Sankey was asked at a press conference about further expansion and Sankey said there wouldn’t be any further expansion while he’s commissioner.

Makes me feel like he might resign before the next round of tv contracts for the conferences.
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Sankey is going to turn 62 later this year. He has been the SEC Commissioner since 2015.

It's time.
 
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I think if you look at the people trying to get involved, the people meeting with Trump, they all want it to go back to the status quo. You are never going to convince me that all the sudden these people who cheated for decades at the benefit of SEC/BIG10 schools are suddenly going to create a college football product that's fair and balanced. The only people seriously connected to college football that attended that roundtable:

Saban and Meyer
Fox Sports and ESPN execs
Only ADs from serious football programs were SEC and BIG10

I'd rather have the current system then let these people decided the fate of college football.
 
hurricaneman said:
I think if you look at the people trying to get involved, the people meeting with Trump, they all want it to go back to the status quo. You are never going to convince me that all the sudden these people who cheated for decades at the benefit of SEC/BIG10 schools are suddenly going to create a college football product that's fair and balanced. The only people seriously connected to college football that attended that roundtable:

Saban and Meyer
Fox Sports and ESPN execs
Only ADs from serious football programs were SEC and BIG10

I'd rather have the current system then let these people decided the fate of college football.
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100% they want to take the power from the players. It’s the most predictable **** ever.
 
A lot of people have failed to consult their American History textbooks.

Every time there is a...movement...away from the free-labor/low-cost-labor model...a bunch of people INSIST on telling us how good the good ol' days were, and how we have to do everything to go back to those old ways...

**** all that. Pay those players their money.
 
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grover said:
Ha, yeah they definitely picked a lemon in Rutgers, monkey boy or no monkey boy. But I do thank Schiano for Hetherman.

I didn't say the BiG has pulled off their media market strategy (yet at least). I said they have a media market strategy that would favor the Canes. I don't think that's O&G Kool-Aid talking. To me it seems obvious Miami is the better play for national recognition and recruiting for the BiG because they don't have a Florida team yet. I believe Miami/Florida is the more attractive bet than Raleigh/NC.
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For the networks and for football. For the President of the universities, UNC is superior to Miami. I imagine BIG wants them both.
 
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