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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

I'd prefer to move to the BiG. They dominate the Top 20 Media Markets, the schools are generally better, and they don't have as much of the Good Ole Boy Boss Hog stink about them:

11 BiG / Leans BiG
  • 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 19 BiG = NYC, LA, Chicago, DC Metro, Detroit, Boston. Seattle, Detroit, Minneapolis, Cleveland
  • 4, 20 leans BiG = Philly, Sacramento
4 SEC / Leans SEC
  • 5, 6, 7 SEC = Dallas/Ft Worth, Houston, Atlanta
  • 15 leans SEC = Orlando
5 Non P2
  • 10, 18 ACC = Boston, Miami
  • 11 leans ACC = Tampa
  • 12 and 17 B12 = Phoenix and Denver
 
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Yoyo423 said:
Best case scenario is what's happening right now now.

Miami positions itself as the premier program in Florida and the ACC. Both the SEC (to keep the B1G out of the south) and the B1G (to get into Florida) want us and they offer full shares from the beginning and maybe even other incentives.

We just need to stay in the playoffs every year and start winning the ACC. Keep our TV ratings up too.
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FSU was so smarmy after their 13-1 season in 2023. They were the certain P2 would prioritize them. Amazing how far they've fallen and Miami has risen.
 
RVACane said:
I’ll give you OSU for JJ Smith but you like watching Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland and Michigan State??? Id much rather watch BYU, TTU, TCU, Houston, Okie State, ASU, Arizona and Baylor
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america disagrees with you for better or worse. some of those big ten games are boring as ****, but acting like michigan penn st and iowa aren't bigger national matchups than the big 12 ones or wouldnt fill more visitor seats at hard rock is just off
 
Ispyin said:
america disagrees with you for better or worse. some of those big ten games are boring as ****, but acting like michigan penn st and iowa aren't bigger national matchups than the big 12 ones or wouldnt fill more visitor seats at hard rock is just off
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Im not saying boring vanilla Melba toast middle America doesn’t like the P1G brand of boring football but I sure don’t and I’d much rather watch the B12 and whatever the mountain west is these days than the caveman conference
 
grover said:
I'd prefer to move to the BiG. They dominate the Top 20 Media Markets, the schools are generally better, and they don't have as much of the Good Ole Boy Boss Hog stink about them:

11 BiG / Leans BiG
  • 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 19 BiG = NYC, LA, Chicago, DC Metro, Detroit, Boston. Seattle, Detroit, Minneapolis, Cleveland
  • 4, 20 leans BiG = Philly, Sacramento
4 SEC / Leans SEC
  • 5, 6, 7 SEC = Dallas/Ft Worth, Houston, Atlanta
  • 15 leans SEC = Orlando
5 Non P2
  • 10, 18 ACC = Boston, Miami
  • 11 leans ACC = Tampa
  • 12 and 17 B12 = Phoenix and Denver
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DC Metro leans ACC as much or more than P1G10. I lived there for many years, including when Maryland was ACC and P1G. UVA and VT have a lot of viewers there.
 
RVACane said:
Im not saying boring vanilla Melba toast middle America doesn’t like the P1G brand of boring football but I sure don’t and I’d much rather watch the B12 and whatever the mountain west is these days than the caveman conference
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How dare you **** on our first half of the season and natty approach... that melba toast was crispy and delicious ...

(and boring as **** and a horrendous approach)

Let it RIP!!!
 
RVACane said:
DC Metro leans ACC as much or more than P1G10. I lived there for many years, including when Maryland was ACC and P1G. UVA and VT have a lot of viewers there.
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Fair. I put it in their bucket because Maryland is in the BiG now. But you can definitely argue half/half.
 
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ssvir said:
If we go to the B12 vs the B10 that's at least $20M a year less in revenue and more likely $30M+.

The fact this is even up for discussion is just silly.
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Depends on how the Big12 deal is structured.

Here’s an insane idea- let’s say the Big12 is culled down to 12 teams, about half being Big12 and half being ACC.

Big12 signs a deal with Amazon 1.4 billion over 10 years for exclusive stream rights, (and allowing for OTA broadcast in the local market through a TV affiliate ).

in the B1G, Ohio St gets almost the same amount of money (100 million by the end of the decade) after winning 12 games as a b1g team that wins 2 games.

If you structured the B12/ACC hybrid so it has 70% guaranteed with 30% incentives, payout top teams could exceed 120 million or more.

So there are ways for the Big12 to be more profitable for top teams compared to other conferences that are required to equally distribute everything.
 
MiamisMoperiestMopes said:
Good luck in your journey.
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You too.

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Handsome Squidbum said:
Depends on how the Big12 deal is structured.

Here’s an insane idea- let’s say the Big12 is culled down to 12 teams, about half being Big12 and half being ACC.

Big12 signs a deal with Amazon 1.4 billion over 10 years for exclusive stream rights, (and allowing for OTA broadcast in the local market through a TV affiliate ).

in the B1G, Ohio St gets almost the same amount of money (100 million by the end of the decade) after winning 12 games as a b1g team that wins 2 games.

If you structured the B12/ACC hybrid so it has 70% guaranteed with 30% incentives, payout top teams could exceed 120 million or more.

So there are ways for the Big12 to be more profitable for top teams compared to other conferences that are required to equally distribute everything.
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RVACane said:
Do you guys think that the B1G powers that be would treat Miami the same as the others there?

OSU, Michigan, PSU

Wisconsin, Indiana,

Oregon, USC, Iowa

Miami
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Yes. Miami generates $ with TV ratings and has great relationships with other programs (including ND) in the Big X. Unlike the ACC, the Big X isn’t gonna self sabotage by hurting its top tier programs.

I think you’re looking into the Wisconsin lawsuit way too much. It’s not as relevant as you think it is.
 
RVACane said:
I think the B1G would be as bad or worse to us than the ACC. I don’t think we have a shot at the SEC. I think we will likely end up in the B1G because that’s just what we’ll do and they will hamper us in the portal. What we did with Lucas, which was entirely good with me, would catch us fines and cease and desist orders and we won’t be able to do a **** thing. There’s no way they’re letting Miami walk into their B1G Cuck Conference and let us operate as business as usual like we did with Lucas, Mensah… they’ll pass disguised rules that hamper us.
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That's why they will take us, to make it stop.
 
RVACane said:
Looks. Like. You. Were. Right.
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Yes. I certainly was.

I also predicted correctly that the ACC would move to unequal distributions.

One thing looks like I was wrong about was the ACC (and other conferences) pushing the weak links out. I'm surprised schools losing money on athletics and disgusted by the pay-to-play model haven't started to bail yet. But they get so much prestige from a big time sports program. Wake and BC market themselves to high school students that way (it was a big part of my Wake tour). So, that's all a few years off.

I think miami stays in the ACC, and the ACC gets a more favorable TV deal after 2030. Need a few more teams to step up these next few years. They like the path to the playoffs and the academic prestige.
 
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grover said:
I'd prefer to move to the BiG. They dominate the Top 20 Media Markets, the schools are generally better, and they don't have as much of the Good Ole Boy Boss Hog stink about them:

11 BiG / Leans BiG
  • 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 19 BiG = NYC, LA, Chicago, DC Metro, Detroit, Boston. Seattle, Detroit, Minneapolis, Cleveland
  • 4, 20 leans BiG = Philly, Sacramento
4 SEC / Leans SEC
  • 5, 6, 7 SEC = Dallas/Ft Worth, Houston, Atlanta
  • 15 leans SEC = Orlando
5 Non P2
  • 10, 18 ACC = Boston, Miami
  • 11 leans ACC = Tampa
  • 12 and 17 B12 = Phoenix and Denver
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First, those rankings are off. Tampa is smaller than Miami.

Second, most of those cities don’t care about college football. NYC, Chicago, LA, DC, etc. thise are pro cities they don’t care aboit the big 10.

Third, SEC had more viewership than the Big 10 this year. That’s a fact and that’s the stat that actually matters.

Fourth, SEC isn’t trying to do stupid private equity deals that pay Ohio State more than everyone else.
 
RightSaidFred said:
First, those rankings are off. Tampa is smaller than Miami.

Second, most of those cities don’t care about college football. NYC, Chicago, LA, DC, etc. thise are pro cities they don’t care aboit the big 10.

Third, SEC had more viewership than the Big 10 this year. That’s a fact and that’s the stat that actually matters.

Fourth, SEC isn’t trying to do stupid private equity deals that pay Ohio State more than everyone else.
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First, I took them from Google Gemini whose source was Nielsen's Designated Market Areas (DMA). Depending on how you define a city's media zone, I'm sure you can come up with different rankings. The BiG controls more media markets regardless.

Second and third, the addressable market is greater because the BiG has a "product" in each market. You're correct that they're underpenetrated because they aren't promoting Rutgers, Maryland, et al correctly. But they have the higher upside. Just look at Miami to see how quickly viewership can flip once you pair great teams with large markets.

Fourth, agree on PE in the P4 or any of these biased deals being negotiated. Bad for college football and its fans. I also despise Taint. Still hate the UF and the SEC more.
 
grover said:
I'd prefer to move to the BiG. They dominate the Top 20 Media Markets, the schools are generally better, and they don't have as much of the Good Ole Boy Boss Hog stink about them:

11 BiG / Leans BiG
  • 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 19 BiG = NYC, LA, Chicago, DC Metro, Detroit, Boston. Seattle, Detroit, Minneapolis, Cleveland
  • 4, 20 leans BiG = Philly, Sacramento
4 SEC / Leans SEC
  • 5, 6, 7 SEC = Dallas/Ft Worth, Houston, Atlanta
  • 15 leans SEC = Orlando
5 Non P2
  • 10, 18 ACC = Boston, Miami
  • 11 leans ACC = Tampa
  • 12 and 17 B12 = Phoenix and Denver
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Why is Boston B1G?
 
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