MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

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Don't "just make up numbers here".

There's always going to be a difference between the 2-dimensional thinkers and the 3-D chess players, as far as conceptualizing the multiple reasons why the P2 need a few more teams to lock up certain regional markets and eliminate any meaningful competition for the highest network payouts and the best time slots (not to mention playoff spots).

Sadly, many fans have swallowed the rat poison of "we will only expand if we can deliver more money to everyone" by doing a linear calculation and concluding that "no team other than Notre Dame" can possibly deliver enough revenue to enrich the existing SEC and Big 10 members.

But that's just wrong.

If you can't see why it benefits the SEC/Big 10 to eliminate all meaningful competition and have a stranglehold on the networks, time slots, and playoff positions, then I can't help you. This isn't 2005 any longer. Conferences no longer add Rutgers and Maryland because they mistakenly assume those schools will deliver the NYC and DC television markets.

The reality of what is happening is more complex. And yet it still goes back to something very simple. A powerful duopoly will be running things shortly.
If you are EVER correct about ONE thing with respect to expansion and/or media deals, then please offer some input. Until then, which will never happen because you are an obtuse joke, please just stop.*

*and that will never happen either because of your obsessively compulsive need to share incorrect opinions every 25 seconds ...

By the way, reminder that it's now June, 2025, Miami, FSU and Clemson are still in the ACC, the GOR was never found to be unenforceable, the league moved to unequal distributions, and nothing material will happen until the early 2030s. In other words, that is everything the adults have been saying quietly for months while you have been loudly wrong 100%.
 
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If you are EVER correct about ONE thing with respect to expansion and/or media deals, then please offer some input. Until then, which will never happen because you are an obtuse joke, please just stop.*

*and that will never happen either because of your obsessively compulsive need to share incorrect opinions every 25 seconds ...

By the way, reminder that it's now June, 2025, Miami, FSU and Clemson are still in the ACC, the GOR was never found to be unenforceable, the league moved to unequal distributions, and nothing material will happen until the early 2030s. In other words, that is everything the adults have been saying quietly for months while you have been loudly wrong 100%.


At first blush, I find it amusing that you are trying to dunk on all the people who know far more than you do. But then I realized it is just your brand, that's what you do. You try to go up for a dunk, but slip and fall flat on your ***.

Here we go, and feel free to bump this next year.

The announcements to leave the ACC will happen Summer 2026 and certain ACC teams will be playing in their new conferences by 2027.

NOT, as you promised us, "mid-2030s". You were full of **** then, and you are still full of ****. All of your "ironclad contract" bull**** has been proven to be false by the actions taken by the ACC in eliminating the prior GOR.

The Grant of Rights was, in fact, acknowledged to be unenforceable. I realize that proud "assignment lawyers" such as yourself will never want to admit defeat, but what ACTUALLY happened was that the GOR was eliminated, and any potential (and vague) financial penalties were fixed and added to the CONSTITUTIONAL exit fee. When coupled with the annual reduction in the exit fee, the net impact is that the false specter of the "incalculable GOR penalty" has been eliminated entirely.

So in actuality, what the highly-informed adults have told you FOR YEARS has been proven correct. The GOR no longer exists as a barrier, there is no longer any uncertainty as to what will happen when the SEC and Big 10 extend invitations in 2026 to certain ACC teams to join their conferences by 2027, and the amount of money that exiting schools will have to pay has been calculated WITH CERTAINTY and it declines on an annual basis.

If you want to find any post of mine where I predicted that UM, F$U, and Clemson would be out of the ACC by 2025, please feel free to copy-paste. I know that F$U-Clemson WANTED to be out of the ACC by 2025, but that was an unlikely timeframe even if they had pursued and won their lawsuits.

Those of us who knew (which, of course, has never included YOU PERSONALLY) always forecast more of a 2026-2027 timeframe.

Do you want to admit you were wrong all along NOW? Or do you wish to defer that admission until Summer 2026?

As a personal aside, can you tell me how much it sucks to be SOOOOO wrong on everything, as you have been on this subject?
 
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AI?!? I don’t listen to Skynet, although T2 is one of my all-time favorite movies.

I have a BGE and although we usually adapt a little, I bought the Franklin BBQ cookbook and learned that way.

Big fan of mustard on my brisket though, so A++ for that.
 
I have never believed the reports that there was still a chance on that, but I also didn’t want it anyway


Fair.

Ono likes Miami, and if he was the UF president, we would have gained a most critical ally and vote for POSSIBLE membership in the SEC. Not that it would have happened. But there was a better chance with UF President Ono than there will be with Political Appointee UF President Shane McMahon.
 
If

If you are EVER correct about ONE thing with respect to expansion and/or media deals, then please offer some input. Until then, which will never happen because you are an obtuse joke, please just stop.*

*and that will never happen either because of your obsessively compulsive need to share incorrect opinions every 25 seconds ...

By the way, reminder that it's now June, 2025, Miami, FSU and Clemson are still in the ACC, the GOR was never found to be unenforceable, the league moved to unequal distributions, and nothing material will happen until the early 2030s. In other words, that is everything the adults have been saying quietly for months while you have been loudly wrong 100%.
FSU &N Clemson WON ... they forced the ACC to settle ... eliminating the ridiculous claims of $700M as an "exit cost", establishing a firm fee schedule that drops to $78M by 2030, and basically saying any school that wants to leave CAN LEAVE with media rights by adhering to that schedule. You sound like a "flat earther".
 
FSU &N Clemson WON ... they forced the ACC to settle ... eliminating the ridiculous claims of $700M as an "exit cost", establishing a firm fee schedule that drops to $78M by 2030, and basically saying any school that wants to leave CAN LEAVE with media rights by adhering to that schedule. You sound like a "flat earther".


The guy is crazy. Wacky.

It's like he doesn't read the news. "Oh, I see UM, F$U, and Clemson are still in the ACC, I'm going to run over to CIS and try to rub it in people's faces".

What a maroon. Meanwhile, the GOR is gone and he has NOTHING to say about THAT. His precious little "ironclad GOR" argument just went up in a puff of smoke, along with his prediction of "mid-2030s" for the date when certain ACC teams will leave the conference.

Brilliant.
 
The guy is crazy. Wacky.

It's like he doesn't read the news. "Oh, I see UM, F$U, and Clemson are still in the ACC, I'm going to run over to CIS and try to rub it in people's faces".

What a maroon. Meanwhile, the GOR is gone and he has NOTHING to say about THAT. His precious little "ironclad GOR" argument just went up in a puff of smoke, along with his prediction of "mid-2030s" for the date when certain ACC teams will leave the conference.

Brilliant.
To be fair, Miami would now be going into their 3rd season in the SEC and 2nd season in the B1G according to some posters as well.
 
Honestly the B1G has a problem where schools like Rutgers, Purdue, Northwestern, Indiana don't really deserve to be in a P2 league. Whereas SECs only real question is Vanderbilt. Like Stanford, Cal, ASU, Arizona, Utah, Colorado ALL deserve to be in a P2 over those schools I just listed that should be out of B1G. And all of them are already AAU members as well.

So there is a big difference between how a CFB landscape featuring the true like top 48-56 programs SHOULD be setup, and how it most likely will end up setup given whats already in place.

And then you have some programs like Nebraska who should probably be in the SEC (with Texas, OU, Missouri, OKSt, KSt, etc). I think B1G should absolutely target a Texas school, but that would HAVE TO mean Texas A&M. So maybe you can just do an A&M for Nebraska swap. Like a more realistic but still unlikely layout would be something like:
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But that is dropping: Purdue, Indiana, and Vanderbilt from the B1G+SEC. And its leaving out programs that SHOULD be in a P2 over some of these others like Boise St, BYU, Syracuse, Cincinnatti... Maybe Duke, Baylor, Texas Tech, UCF, USF, Kansas, Houston, Wazzu, Oregon st...
I mean Texas Tech is dropping a lot of money right now.

I've posted it before but imo this is the best like Clean-Sheet CFB layout:
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Don't "just make up numbers here".

There's always going to be a difference between the 2-dimensional thinkers and the 3-D chess players, as far as conceptualizing the multiple reasons why the P2 need a few more teams to lock up certain regional markets and eliminate any meaningful competition for the highest network payouts and the best time slots (not to mention playoff spots).

Sadly, many fans have swallowed the rat poison of "we will only expand if we can deliver more money to everyone" by doing a linear calculation and concluding that "no team other than Notre Dame" can possibly deliver enough revenue to enrich the existing SEC and Big 10 members.

But that's just wrong.

If you can't see why it benefits the SEC/Big 10 to eliminate all meaningful competition and have a stranglehold on the networks, time slots, and playoff positions, then I can't help you. This isn't 2005 any longer. Conferences no longer add Rutgers and Maryland because they mistakenly assume those schools will deliver the NYC and DC television markets.

The reality of what is happening is more complex. And yet it still goes back to something very simple. A powerful duopoly will be running things shortly.
I’m not saying we don’t have a path to P2. But I doubt the P2 is going to go shopping at the ACC racks and the whole league is going to implode. I actually think the P2 wants to “allow” the other leagues to stay in existence and essentially serve as their errand boys that don’t question the adults. So that means they P2 will be very selective who goes. Hopefully we are one of the first to get invites, because I’m not sure it’s a long list.

To your comment the duopoly will be running things soon… they already are. There is posturing, but the P2 is already running things. Everything else is from David Blaine’s art of misdirection. They already own the playoff positions and have a strangle hold on the networks and money time slots and are about to create crazy year end inventory with their conference championship day being expanded to include the top 6-8 teams in games with playoff implications. That’s not even including the B1G/SEC scheduling arrangement that will happen sooner than later, creating a cascade of new games that will help fill up all those time slots.

Is there a path that the ACC completely blows up and leftovers merge with B12? Sure. But I don’t think that P2 are strategizing with that as a goal.
 
To be fair, Miami would now be going into their 3rd season in the SEC and 2nd season in the B1G according to some posters as well.


How? This thread only started 3 years ago.

Perhaps the point is sarcastic, and I'm down with that.

Whatever. Alls I'm saying about @NorthernVirginiaCane is that he was full of **** on the "mid-2030s" nonsense.
 
I’m not saying we don’t have a path to P2. But I doubt the P2 is going to go shopping at the ACC racks and the whole league is going to implode. I actually think the P2 wants to “allow” the other leagues to stay in existence and essentially serve as their errand boys that don’t question the adults. So that means they P2 will be very selective who goes. Hopefully we are one of the first to get invites, because I’m not sure it’s a long list.

To your comment the duopoly will be running things soon… they already are. There is posturing, but the P2 is already running things. Everything else is from David Blaine’s art of misdirection. They already own the playoff positions and have a strangle hold on the networks and money time slots and are about to create crazy year end inventory with their conference championship day being expanded to include the top 6-8 teams in games with playoff implications. That’s not even including the B1G/SEC scheduling arrangement that will happen sooner than later, creating a cascade of new games that will help fill up all those time slots.

Is there a path that the ACC completely blows up and leftovers merge with B12? Sure. But I don’t think that P2 are strategizing with that as a goal.


I don't know how else to say it.

The conversations are ongoing.

You don't have to "doubt" whether there will be "shopping at the ACC racks". UNC is one of the most desired non-P2 schools in the country, and Miami is up there too.

And no, the SEC and Big 12 are not interested in keeping Reek or Grima Wormtongue around for ***** and giggles.

Once the first domino goes down next summer, the rest of the moves will happen quickly.
 
To be fair, Miami would now be going into their 3rd season in the SEC and 2nd season in the B1G according to some posters as well.
To be fair those posters were likely right until other things changed that weren’t foreseen. **** happens. Life isn’t a straight line. Waze sends you in different directions still gets you to destination eventually. Information can be correct that there’s no traffic en route that some idiot causes an accident or a fire breaks out - was Waze wrong at the time before life hits?
 
Fair.

Ono likes Miami, and if he was the UF president, we would have gained a most critical ally and vote for POSSIBLE membership in the SEC. Not that it would have happened. But there was a better chance with UF President Ono than there will be with Political Appointee UF President Shane McMahon.
Okay this was the answer to my question lol.
 
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.... Why does that change anything regarding us?


Because a political troll president at UF will likely reflect the loud/bitter Gator alums who object, on principle alone, to the SEC inviting UM to join.

A UF president who actually likes/respects Miami will point out the positives and advantages of UM's membership. Kinda like how aTm realized that the SEC adding Texas/Oklahoma was good for everyone, no matter how much aTm hates UT.
 
AI?!? I don’t listen to Skynet, although T2 is one of my all-time favorite movies.

I have a BGE and although we usually adapt a little, I bought the Franklin BBQ cookbook and learned that way.

Big fan of mustard on my brisket though, so A++ for that.
Do you use a temp controller?
 
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