MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

[gogeta4]

Agreed! I started banging that drum this past season to great CIS critique, but I hope that we are seriously looking at the B12. If we can drag a few teams with us (and if we went to the B12, I'm sure there would be some ACC teams that followed), I feel like the B12 can rise up to at least a respectable #3 position for the conferences.

so why cant the acc do those things?.

 

[CaneinBroward]

For every Duke Miracle play, how many horrible calls have gone against us in the ACC??? They literally took the SMU game away from us and gave us the loss. I watched the B12 refs in the playoffs and the refs from all the conferences. It wasn’t close.

B12
SEC
B1G
ACC

I believe most people on here would prefer the B1G over the B12 and that’s fine. I don’t agree with that and I think we’d be put in a corner there in the B1G. Yall are certainly free to disagree and are not in the minority I’m sure.

ACC refs are bad, no doubt. Ask anyone. How is it a Miami-only problem though? Do you know of any FSU fans who don't think they've been robbed?

Frankly, I don't care where the Canes end up as long as it gives Miami the best access to the playoff as possible, includes enough TV money to keep Miami relevant, and allows Miami to play at least FSU on a yearly basis. But like I said, wherever it is, many on here will say the conference mistreats Miami.

 

[RVACane]

ACC refs are bad, no doubt. Ask anyone. How is it a Miami-only problem though? Do you know of any FSU fans who don't think they've been robbed?

Frankly, I don't care where the Canes end up as long as it gives Miami the best access to the playoff as possible, includes enough TV money to keep Miami relevant, and allows Miami to play at least FSU on a yearly basis. But like I said, wherever it is, many on here will say the conference mistreats Miami.

I think the B1G would be as bad or worse to us than the ACC. I don’t think we have a shot at the SEC. I think we will likely end up in the B1G because that’s just what we’ll do and they will hamper us in the portal. What we did with Lucas, which was entirely good with me, would catch us fines and cease and desist orders and we won’t be able to do a **** thing. There’s no way they’re letting Miami walk into their B1G Cuck Conference and let us operate as business as usual like we did with Lucas, Mensah… they’ll pass disguised rules that hamper us.

 

[Yoyo423]

For every Duke Miracle play, how many horrible calls have gone against us in the ACC??? They literally took the SMU game away from us and gave us the loss. I watched the B12 refs in the playoffs and the refs from all the conferences. It wasn’t close.

B12
SEC
B1G
ACC

I believe most people on here would prefer the B1G over the B12 and that’s fine. I don’t agree with that and I think we’d be put in a corner there in the B1G. Yall are certainly free to disagree and are not in the minority I’m sure.

I mean, I'd rather play a B12 or ACC schedule every year than a B1G or SEC schedule.

But as far as which conference secures our future? Only the SEC and the B1G are guaranteed to survive. There won't be a P4 or even P3 moving forward.. the B1G and SEC are already consolidating power and making decisions/plans without the ACC and Big12.
Are you suggesting there's a path for B12 to get on the same playing field as the P2 eventually? If so, what's that path that gets them an extra $30-$40mil per school at their next network deal in 2030?
Or are you ok being in a 2nd tier conference and bringing in significantly less per year and knowing we won't get the auto bids, won't get the same playoff payouts (already starting in 2026) and we'll just have an easier schedule and be treated more like a top dog in a 2nd tier conference?

The ACC and B12 have already been relegated to just 1 playoff team. And now the payouts will go down. We'd have to win the conference every year to make the playoffs.

Just trying to understand your rationale.

 

[Empirical Cane]

“Proving” someone wrong who has genuine access to individuals with information about the program is a self-fulfilling prophecy, because even the individuals themselves get things wrong. All the freaking time.

You could be Mario himself and make incorrect predictions.

Santo Mario has Papal Infalibility.

You speak heresy.

 

[RozayCane]

 

[Ispyin]

I think we’d be so much better off in the Big 12. I assume we’ll somehow end up in the B1G and I really don’t think we’ll be treated well there. JMO. No info. Not trying to get info from people on it. It is what it is.

So you think we would be much better off making about $50-60 million less a year baseline media rights alone in 2030 along with tier 2 time slots against zero teams we have any history with?

You clearly had a fun night lol

 

[RVACane]

I mean, I'd rather play a B12 or ACC schedule every year than a B1G or SEC schedule.

But as far as which conference secures our future? Only the SEC and the B1G are guaranteed to survive. There won't be a P4 or even P3 moving forward.. the B1G and SEC are already consolidating power and making decisions/plans without the ACC and Big12.
Are you suggesting there's a path for B12 to get on the same playing field as the P2 eventually? If so, what's that path that gets them an extra $30-$40mil per school at their next network deal in 2030?
Or are you ok being in a 2nd tier conference and bringing in significantly less per year and knowing we won't get the auto bids, won't get the same playoff payouts (already starting in 2026) and we'll just have an easier schedule and be treated more like a top dog in a 2nd tier conference?

The ACC and B12 have already been relegated to just 1 playoff team. And now the payouts will go down. We'd have to win the conference every year to make the playoffs.

Just trying to understand your rationale.

I think there’s a path with us and adding some solid ACC teams for the B12 to get to more money than they’re doing now and more than the ACC. I think the football would be more interesting and draw more viewers. I think it would also expand our recruiting into Texas as well. I just like it better. I don’t like the B1G. I understand the points you guys are making and they’re legitimate except I think you all are discounting how I think the B1G treat us. Do you guys really think we’d be treated any better there than the ACC?

 

[RVACane]

So you think we would be much better off making about $50-60 million less a year baseline media rights alone in 2030 along with tier 2 time slots against zero teams we have any history with?

You clearly had a fun night lol

I don’t think it would stay at the current numbers if we joined and I think there would be others joining as well. But it won’t happen because unfortunately the school thinks the B1G is the golden child. Wait til we beat Wisconsin and Ohio State for recruits or get their guys in the portal. We’ll see how that goes when we’re under their thumb. Lol

 

[RVACane]

so why cant the acc do those things?.

They could if you switched the ACC personnel with the B12.

 

[RozayCane]

 

[CaneinBroward]

I think there’s a path with us and adding some solid ACC teams for the B12 to get to more money than they’re doing now and more than the ACC. I think the football would be more interesting and draw more viewers. I think it would also expand our recruiting into Texas as well. I just like it better. I don’t like the B1G. I understand the points you guys are making and they’re legitimate except I think you all are discounting how I think the B1G treat us. Do you guys really think we’d be treated any better there than the ACC?

I'm still trying to figure out exactly how Miami is treated worse in the ACC from other members.

 

[Yoyo423]

I think there’s a path with us and adding some solid ACC teams for the B12 to get to more money than they’re doing now and more than the ACC. I think the football would be more interesting and draw more viewers. I think it would also expand our recruiting into Texas as well. I just like it better. I don’t like the B1G. I understand the points you guys are making and they’re legitimate except I think you all are discounting how I think the B1G treat us. Do you guys really think we’d be treated any better there than the ACC?

I don't really care how we're treated and I just don't see that as a major issue. An extra $40mil a year takes care of that.

I could see the B12 making some extra in their next round of negotiations if they could add 2 or 4 big schools from the ACC. But they'd have to get:
Miami, FSU, Clemson, one of UVA, UNC.
I just don't see that happening. And even then they still wouldn't be close to to what the B1G and SEC are making..and they'll get a new contract a few years later as well and widen the gap again.

I don't foresee the B1G going out of their way to keep us down. We'd be a top 6 brand in their conference right now. And the only one in the South.

OSU
Mich
USC
Oregon
Penn State
Miami
UCLA

All their teams would want to come play in Miami, especially in November.

If we want to close the gap financially, our better bet is in the ACC and getting Clemson and FSU to return to national prominence and one other team to get there (VT, UNC, GT, UVA, SMU). That way when we go to the negotiating table again we can ask for more.

But we need at least 4 nationally prominent teams. That seems more likely in the ACC than the B12 to me.

 

[CaneinBroward]

I don’t think it would stay at the current numbers if we joined and I think there would be others joining as well. But it won’t happen because unfortunately the school thinks the B1G is the golden child. Wait til we beat Wisconsin and Ohio State for recruits or get their guys in the portal. We’ll see how that goes when we’re under their thumb. Lol

Has there been mistreatment of the former PAC 12 schools by the B1G? I'm sure especially USC and Oregon are beating Wisconsin and Ohio State for recruits.

 

[ssvir]

Gained a new appreciation for the skycam

 

[ssvir]

Yelp is even less parking coming to hard rock

I've never had a problem parking in Black/Blue/Green/Orange (other than the UF fiasco which wasn't b/c of lack of spots).

Not sure why everyone ******* about this.

What am I missing?

 

[ssvir]

The UM administration is more committed to football than its ever been, much respect, they get a lot of credit; however, if they don't take this opportunity to get out of the ACC, they are risking one of the most impressive turnarounds in all of sports. The brand is red hot again, loved and hated. The ACC is a bush league conference, from the referees all the way up to the invisible leadership. Oh, and now they just stuck us with 4 Th/Fri games????

CFB has gone the way of the megaconference. Get on the phone and get in on it with whichever one will take you and be done with the ACC. It's every program for itself, don't call FSU, don't reach out to Clemson, don't make some kind of deal with Syracuse, BC, or whoever else. It's about the U and your brand, let the Noles rot. They can keep the rivalry as an OOC game or **** right off. They were about to do the same to us.

We aren't leaving until 2030 when the B10/SEC TV contracts come up so keep your hot takes on ice for a couple more years.

 

[RVACane]

For all of you B1G enthusiasts,
You really think that miami is treated with the same deference in the ACC as UNC, NCSU, Duke and UVA? Do you really think we’d be treated on par with OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin and OSU in the B1G?

The B12 is the only conference that doesn’t have these 100 year old ingrained loyalties where we’d be treated like a valued member.

Big Ten = more money as is today, less control.

Big 12 = less money today, more influence, equal treatment, plenty of money with more top programs joining.

ACC = worst of both worlds.

We have no voting allies, no conference admin allies, we have horrible officiating that is shown to disparately impact us more than others, terrible scheduling… that would be what I expect when we go to the B1G, which is where I think we end up in 2031 or whatever date it is. When what i am saying is what transpires two or three years into B1G membership, don’t be surprised, embrace it with the same vigor you have now.

 

[RVACane]

Has there been mistreatment of the former PAC 12 schools by the B1G? I'm sure especially USC and Oregon are beating Wisconsin and Ohio State for recruits.

Do you honestly think Miami would be treated the way Oregon and Blue Blood USC are treated?

 

[ssvir]

Agreed! I started banging that drum this past season to great CIS critique, but I hope that we are seriously looking at the B12. If we can drag a few teams with us (and if we went to the B12, I'm sure there would be some ACC teams that followed), I feel like the B12 can rise up to at least a respectable #3 position for the conferences.

If we go to the B12 vs the B10 that's at least $20M a year less in revenue and more likely $30M+.

The fact this is even up for discussion is just silly.