UCF is the largest university in US.
Please tell me you’re not serious.
What Miami doesn't beat them is mass.
UCF is one of the least prestigious
UCF is a diploma factory with feeder schools like Daytona state etc all over Central Florida. Acceptance rate is 45%. Perception nationally - another directional school lacking media appeal.
Don't disagree with a single point you make.
European states had exact same attitude in 1900s.
UCF is a commuter school on steroids. I guess I could see some BIG folks wanting to head to Florida for a game and do Disney. But UCF isn't getting into BIG over Miami or even FSU I don't believe.
I'm not saying over Miami....
At my age the long game isn’t of that much interest. Pending conference realignment of -2027-2028 is where my focus is. If a P2 super league, or something similar develops, I could see UCF becoming a dominant team “of the rest”, or 2nd tier programs, for a decade - than perhaps a move up.
Oh my God dude you’re just ******* wrong here. I don’t care what metric you want to use TV ratings the recent valuations done by national media on how much the brand is worth in the rankings when it comes down to it Miami is fine. .
I don't have the energy for you today, dude.
Vandy is apparently expanding everywhere- they are also supposedly opening a campus in San Francisco. Last I knew, Stanford and Cal aren't that worried, but there are people who think Cal should merge with UCSF to have a "presence" across the Bay.
Stanford isn't trying to be elite in de futból. I would argue neither is Cal.
No, but neither is Vandy. Opening sattellite campuses doesn't really help a school's reputation, or hurt other local schools, from what I've seen. They can help specific graduate programs for the school who is branching out, but the impact on other universities isn't significant.
Sure helps mass though.
You might be right, I can't sit here and say we shouldn't be worried, but the current leadership seems to get it as far as what we are and can be.We have always been an oultier, punching above our weight since Schnelly became coach. Notre Dame, SMU, Duke and Stanford are the closest to us in terms of enrollment, an we have better success than any of them if you go back that far. We have what we will always have for physical campus size in Coral Gables as there still appears to be zero chance of expansion. We do have a satellite campus for marine science but I don't know how feasible it would be to try expanding in another part of the state. I have seen Southern Cal and U San Francisco (not using USF here because of the obvious confusion) expand into Sacramento over the years and, neither really enhanced their reputation with those moves or hurt UC Davis or even Sacramento State. University of the Pacific does own/control McGeroge School of Law in Sacramento that does well regionally and returns a lot of tuition money, but McGeorge built its reputation as a stand alone school before affiliating with UOP.
