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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

TheOriginalCane said:
First, Clemson and F$U need a landing spot. Which might happen.

Second, has anyone learned how to read a legal settlement and/or an amended constitution & by-laws?

First available time to give notice to leave the ACC, under the revised exit fee (with no unenforceable GOR penalties) is June 1, 2026.

See y'all in 10 months to discuss this subject at that time.
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This is why people hate lawyers until they need us. We should all get special badges here like the maudes.
 
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Rickd said:
You're making stuff up ... nowhere at FSU / Clemson are there any informed fans saying they're 5 years away. General concensus is "announcing by June 1 2026 for either the 27 or 28 season".
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WRONG…

Look at their 247 site… NOTHING for conference talk…
 
FL Cane said:
The plan remains unchanged. The people that make this decision - not the status quo mediocrity brigade in the athletic department or BOT - want out of the ACC. Make no mistake, Joe E. (who’s probably the biggest football supporter we’ve ever had in that position) is going to do anything and everything to get a P2 berth for us. For this task, specifically, he’s the right guy for the job. As for the rest of the school TBD (reviews are hit or miss)
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Well Good thing he's president for us right now. Lord knows Frenk wouldn't have been useful here. Shalala probably honestly would have successfully gotten us into the B1G I'd bet... She had downsides for sure, but probably would have gotten this done...
 
Calinative said:
Well Good thing he's president for us right now. Lord knows Frenk wouldn't have been useful here. Shalala probably honestly would have successfully gotten us into the B1G I'd bet... She had downsides for sure, but probably would have gotten this done...
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Shalala was great at two things: raising obscene amounts of money and politicking with other schools/presidents. She would’ve done well in this role too imho. Frenk wasn’t much of a factor here. Not in the drivers seat at any point, and he really never understood the importance of CFB to the school.
 
FL Cane said:
Shalala was great at two things: raising obscene amounts of money and politicking with other schools/presidents. She would’ve done well in this role too imho. Frenk wasn’t much of a factor here. Not in the drivers seat at any point, and he really never understood the importance of CFB to the school.
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And maybe/likely that politicking by her plays a helpful role. I mean her actions with the medical school seem responsible for us getting AAU...
 
Calinative said:
I mean that's like job #1 that AI is taking over lol.
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It’s really not at all. AI has proven to be wrong, over and over, in this area, and attorneys that have tried to substitute AI for doing their job have received sanctions. AI not only can’t perform the critical thinking skills attorneys do, but it is frequently incorrect in its analysis.
 
caneingville said:
It’s really not at all. AI has proven to be wrong, over and over, in this area, and attorneys that have tried to substitute AI for doing their job have received sanctions. AI not only can’t perform the critical thinking skills attorneys do, but it is frequently incorrect in its analysis.
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Within a year or two max AI will literally be superhuman at anything regarding reviewing legal agreements. It's not going to substitute people, it's going to be like giving someone powered drill for the first time.
And like all the top AIs aren't specifically trained on this kinda of stuff either. They are far more general. The only reason this area wouldn't be one of first to get hit is because the brainiacs making it are all much more focused on the STEM+Coding aspects.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Cannot be sooner than June 1, 2026.

Otherwise, I agree with everything else.
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Nitpicking.

According to the Settlement Agreement notice CAN be given sooner than June 1, 2026. The first requirement of a withdrawing school, as per the settlement agreement is:

"filing an official Notice of Withdrawal with each of the Members and the Commissioner ON OR BEFORE JUNE 1, for the withdrawal to be effective June 30 of the following year". So yes, a program could advise the ACC in the Spring, or at any time apparently, that they plan on withdrawing from the conference. Just has to be done NO LATER THAN June 1, to be effective the following year.
 
Rickd said:
One site ... that is your "source" of what is actually happening? How about looking at the 3300 page thread on Warchant, or listen to Josh Pate, or the Big Mountain podcast (guys that DO have actual connections at B10 universities).
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I listen exclusively to BigHarryChongoCroquetaEater69's podcast.

He NEVAH wrong meng.
 
Calinative said:
Well Good thing he's president for us right now. Lord knows Frenk wouldn't have been useful here. Shalala probably honestly would have successfully gotten us into the B1G I'd bet... She had downsides for sure, but probably would have gotten this done...
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Shalala would have burnt down the ACC by now... like she did to Tranghese and the Big Least
 
Rickd said:
Nitpicking.

According to the Settlement Agreement notice CAN be given sooner than June 1, 2026. The first requirement of a withdrawing school, as per the settlement agreement is:

"filing an official Notice of Withdrawal with each of the Members and the Commissioner ON OR BEFORE JUNE 1, for the withdrawal to be effective June 30 of the following year". So yes, a program could advise the ACC in the Spring, or at any time apparently, that they plan on withdrawing from the conference. Just has to be done NO LATER THAN June 1, to be effective the following year.
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**** @TheOriginalCane fight back. They calling you TheOriginalGenetics now 🤣.
 
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FL Cane said:
Shalala was great at two things: raising obscene amounts of money and politicking with other schools/presidents. She would’ve done well in this role too imho. Frenk wasn’t much of a factor here. Not in the drivers seat at any point, and he really never understood the importance of CFB to the school.
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Frenk belonged at a place where you don't have to fundraise, where you don't have to do much other than manage things. Frenk lacked the people skills needed at a place like Miami, where you have to hustle, where you have to build relationships. A complete nonentity could fundraise at a place like Harvard, people just want to say they are big time Harvard donors. People donate to that school, despite having absolutely no connection to the school, merely because of the name.
 
Tony4Canes said:
35k seating capacity and all privately funded
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The fact that our fans can't grasp that not only does NU have a stadium already on campus(Which means they already have land set aside), they are also building a stadium so incredibly small, if Miami would even attempt to try it, it would cost the school money, because we sell significantly more season tickets than their stadium will hold. It would be a great way to alienate some of our best, most loyal fans, and it's not like we have that many to begin with. Did I mention that Evanston, Illinois isn't Coral Gables? Evanston is an affluent Chicagoland suburb, Coral Gables is competing with places like Beverly Hills.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Not sure on timing.


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This is great in regards to getting more kids closer to campus, which has been a point of emphasis for years. It's always been a goal, to not only have more undergrads choose to live on campus all four years, but also to create a true "Around campus" community, something that hasn't truly existed at UMiami. You go to most major colleges, around campus is student central, with a bulk of the student body living within walking/easy driving distance of campus.

That said, I don't know if the school is truly interested in growing the student body in a way that our fans are hoping for. To bring the undergraduate student body up to Southern Cal levels, Miami would need to up the faculty numbers, in order to maintain the student/faculty ratios. To my knowledge, there hasn't been a huge run on hiring, it's been more maintenance than anything. The faculty is aging. The academic buildings aren't being expanded in a way that would allow for significant undergrad student body growth and thanks to the fact that the University is landlocked, there is only so much the school can do in that area.

From the time I arrived on campus in 2004, to now, the student body has increased by 2000 undergrads. That's extremely slow growth over two decades, especially compared to schools like Florida, who have grown their student bodies by almost nine thousand undergrads in the same period. USC has maxed out, they are still holding steady at 20k undergrads, with minimal increases over the last two decades.
 
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