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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

caneingville said:
It does not name the specific schools, but it does that that certain schools will receive a higher percentage of the revenue each year based on a formula. Based on the past few years, that would be Miami, FSU, and Clemson.
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Yes it definitely does that. I thought you meant it specifically carved out larger shares for FSU/Clemson. My apologies.
 
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Rickd said:
August 15 no longer has any meaning ... based on the SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT between the ACC / Clemson / FSU .... signed off by all member schools ... the new announcement date is June 1 ... and that has passed.
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You’re talking to the dumbest poster on the board, dude
 
TheOriginalCane said:
What a ******* dopey post by you. But I expect nothing less.

You are the person saying that it is going to take years and years.

So I'll make this a very easy bet. If Miami is out of the ACC before 2030, you are permabanned. Furthermore, you will provide your government name to DMoney, and he can make sure that you are also banned from the UM campus and Hard Rock Stadium.

As I said, announcements will commence next summer. Expect UNC to be the first domino. The pacing after that will depend on a couple of things, the largest of which is Notre Dame.

Enjoy your false sense of superiority, based on your overconfidence about an impending event that simply has not happened yet. Determining legal rights and removing (potentially) hundreds of millions of dollars in speculative GOR damages are important issues that did not follow a set timeframe.

This whole ban-bet strategy did not work out so well for STG.
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:laugh:

So ****** EASY to disprove. For those who hang your HAT on the MIAMI GENETICS above, he just confirmed he is making UP STUFF, 2026 is not going to happen.

AGAIN no one knows ****, so stick with the national folks. At least they get things RIGHT…
 
TheOGCane said:
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So ****** EASY to disprove. For those who hang your HAT on the MIAMI GENETICS above, he just confirmed he is making UP STUFF, 2026 is not going to happen.

AGAIN no one knows ****, so stick with the national folks. At least they get things RIGHT…
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"The national folks". Who have been wrong all along.

Sure.

Nobody has any idea what your "2026 is not going to happen" means. It's just more vague "can't prove it for a year" bull**** from you.

There will be announcements in 2026. There will be movement in 2027. Nobody in the ACC is waiting around to save $18 million per year on the exit fee. This is where one-dimensional minds such as yours will fail in the analysis. The upside revenue outweighs the downside costs. And "delaying" to save a couple of bucks means that the precious few available slots will be gone.

Pennywise, pound foolish.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
"The national folks". Who have been wrong all along.

Sure.

Nobody has any idea what your "2026 is not going to happen" means. It's just more vague "can't prove it for a year" bull**** from you.

There will be announcements in 2026. There will be movement in 2027. Nobody in the ACC is waiting around to save $18 million per year on the exit fee. This is where one-dimensional minds such as yours will fail in the analysis. The upside revenue outweighs the downside costs. And "delaying" to save a couple of bucks means that the precious few available slots will be gone.

Pennywise, pound foolish.
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Put a BAN BET on it. Name your EXACT timeline

One of us is doing this board a FAVOR
 
TheOGCane said:
Put a BAN BET on it. Name your EXACT timeline

One of us is doing this board a FAVOR
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While I would certainly be doing the board a favor by getting you banned, that's not something that I would choose to pursue with you.

I've already called my shot.

I'll be here to mock you when you are proven wrong. Nothing else is required or requested.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
"The national folks". Who have been wrong all along.

Sure.

Nobody has any idea what your "2026 is not going to happen" means. It's just more vague "can't prove it for a year" bull**** from you.

There will be announcements in 2026. There will be movement in 2027. Nobody in the ACC is waiting around to save $18 million per year on the exit fee. This is where one-dimensional minds such as yours will fail in the analysis. The upside revenue outweighs the downside costs. And "delaying" to save a couple of bucks means that the precious few available slots will be gone.

Pennywise, pound foolish.
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The funny thing about people saying you should wait over it dropping $18M is that if you would have asked just about anyone pre-lawsuit, that if we could get out of the GOR **** near 10 years early for $129M with a completely CLEAN exit, most would think that was a **** good deal that we should take ASAP. I mean LITERALLY the Exit fee already for the ACC was supposed to be 3x the revenue distribution lol - which was idk around $40M a few years ago (so $120M)? And for it to drop to $75M from 2030-2036 clearly just is a statement that this conference is dead By 2030 at the latest. So Quite literally this settlement basically just fully enforces the already existing exit fee but just eliminated the GOR.

I think if we go back to the first few hundred pages of this thread when we were all trying to estimate how much it'd be "worth it" to pay to get out, $129M would be on the low end of the predictions. I mean literally Texas and OU had literally only like 1 year left in the B12 and paid $100M to get out early lol. So if you look at these things in context, and how bad of a deal we were in originally, idgaf if we're paying $111M for 28 or $147M for 26, all 3 ranges are good deals to get out imo.

I think 26 is just unlikely to get out by. 27 is most likely. But like if this all gets delayed another year and we are out for the 28 season and are only paying $111M? As long as we end up in the P2, I'm considering it a $100+M well spent regardless 27 or 28. Only thing I do wonder is if its actually better for us though if that one clause for if 6 teams leave or whatever it is all leave that they can just leave for football and remain in other sports. Like at the end of the day, all this conference realignment should only be for football. Maybe for basketball too, but all these other sports should all be regional.
 
Calinative said:
The funny thing about people saying you should wait over it dropping $18M is that if you would have asked just about anyone pre-lawsuit, that if we could get out of the GOR **** near 10 years early for $129M with a completely CLEAN exit, most would think that was a **** good deal that we should take ASAP. I mean LITERALLY the Exit fee already for the ACC was supposed to be 3x the revenue distribution lol - which was idk around $40M a few years ago (so $120M)? And for it to drop to $75M from 2030-2036 clearly just is a statement that this conference is dead By 2030 at the latest. So Quite literally this settlement basically just fully enforces the already existing exit fee but just eliminated the GOR.

I think if we go back to the first few hundred pages of this thread when we were all trying to estimate how much it'd be "worth it" to pay to get out, $129M would be on the low end of the predictions. I mean literally Texas and OU had literally only like 1 year left in the B12 and paid $100M to get out early lol. So if you look at these things in context, and how bad of a deal we were in originally, idgaf if we're paying $111M for 28 or $147M for 26, all 3 ranges are good deals to get out imo.

I think 26 is just unlikely to get out by. 27 is most likely. But like if this all gets delayed another year and we are out for the 28 season and are only paying $111M? As long as we end up in the P2, I'm considering it a $100+M well spent regardless 27 or 28. Only thing I do wonder is if its actually better for us though if that one clause for if 6 teams leave or whatever it is all leave that they can just leave for football and remain in other sports. Like at the end of the day, all this conference realignment should only be for football. Maybe for basketball too, but all these other sports should all be regional.
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Agreed. The problem with the GOR was the uncertainty of the cost. It was so vague and unenforceable that the ACC could have potentially argued for over a half-billion in damages, beyond the ACTUAL exit fee in the ACC Constitution & By-Laws.

Now that the two "damages" have rightly been combined and stated with clarity, now we have some posters who have never constructed a spreadsheet to evalute FMV or cash flows telling us how onerous the restated exit fee is. And how 17 schools sitting on massive endowment funds and huge budgets are just going to watch the rich get richer so we can "save" $18 million per year for every year that we do nothing and remain in the dying ACC.

We will not be out by 2026. You have to give a 1-year notice, and the notification date has been moved earlier to June 1. So we could announce in June 2026 and be playing as early as 2027. When you look at the current impasse between the SEC and Big 10, it becomes painfully obvious that the SEC is holding off on going to 9 conference games until the final round of expansion plays out. Which will be sooner rather than later.
 
I hate to disappoint, but after speaking with several individuals in the athletic department this past week, I get the feeling that the administration is not excited about the Big 10 at all, and would much prefer to try to make the ACC work. Don't shoot the messenger, but they all but said that unless the entire ACC blows-up, we were going nowhere -- even if FSU and Clemson leave.
 
ICANEDOIT said:
I hate to disappoint, but after speaking with several individuals in the athletic department this past week, I get the feeling that the administration is not excited about the Big 10 at all, and would much prefer to try to make the ACC work. Don't shoot the messenger, but they all but said that unless the entire ACC blows-up, we were going nowhere -- even if FSU and Clemson leave.
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The people who will make that determination are not in the Athletic Department. Thank god.
 
ICANEDOIT said:
I hate to disappoint, but after speaking with several individuals in the athletic department this past week, I get the feeling that the administration is not excited about the Big 10 at all, and would much prefer to try to make the ACC work. Don't shoot the messenger, but they all but said that unless the entire ACC blows-up, we were going nowhere -- even if FSU and Clemson leave.
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Sounds like they’re simply repeating what the HR memo told them to say. Nothing is going to happen until it happens, and neither the Big 10 nor the SEC are a perfect scenario for us. But both are better than the ACC, and that’s all that matters at the end of the day. It will get done.
 
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caneingville said:
Sounds like they’re simply repeating what the HR memo told them to say. Nothing is going to happen until it happens, and neither the Big 10 nor the SEC are a perfect scenario for us. But both are better than the ACC, and that’s all that matters at the end of the day. It will get done.
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Cane brotha, how is the SEC not a "perfect scenario" for us?

Those who insist SEC schools will conspire against Miami (not saying you) cannot seriously believe a conference including the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin and inevitably Notre Dame wouldn't operate the same way.

UM (and CIS) will have to live with conspiracy theories — real or imagined — wherever we end up
 
caneingville said:
Nothing is going to happen until it happens, and neither the Big 10 nor the SEC are a perfect scenario for us. But both are better than the ACC, and that’s all that matters at the end of the day.
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💯

The ACC is ****. The ACC has always been ****.
 
Hold My Beer said:
Cane brotha, how is the SEC not a "perfect scenario" for us?

Those who insist SEC schools will conspire against Miami (not saying you) cannot seriously believe a conference including the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin and inevitably Notre Dame wouldn't operate the same way.

UM (and CIS) will have to live with conspiracy theories — real or imagined — wherever we end up
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Well at least the B10 did reportedly support UM's AAU accreditation efforts. The conference wants to be "national", and for visiting schools it sure is a more interesting trip into Miami International with a thousand hotels to select from, in addition to the incredible range of restaurants. Compare that to visiting Tallahassee or Gainesville. Ouch.
 
Hold My Beer said:
Cane brotha, how is the SEC not a "perfect scenario" for us?

Those who insist SEC schools will conspire against Miami (not saying you) cannot seriously believe a conference including the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin and inevitably Notre Dame wouldn't operate the same way.

UM (and CIS) will have to live with conspiracy theories — real or imagined — wherever we end up
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Miami is a big 10 institution not an SEC one. This is more than a football decision.
 
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