MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

[TheOriginalCane]

If I were the Big Ten, I would be a hard "NO" on any formal scheduling arrangement or partial membership agreement with Notre Dame. Yes, it might make financial sense to a degree, but you have to weigh that against the toxicity that it would cause.

Look at the ACC. Part of the reason this conference is such a ****hole is because Notre Dame throws its weight around and gets its way in conference decision-making, while not really having any vested interest in whether the conference prospers or not. They call the shots and they don't suffer the consequences for anything because their bread is buttered by NBC.

It's a toxic arrangement and frankly, the Big Ten doesn't need it. I would tell them you can join the conference as a full member any time, but we're not interested in partial memberships at any level. You're in or out, we're good either way.

Not to argue "pro" or "con", but the reason I believe the Big 10 would "accept" a scheduling arrangement with ND is because there are fewer and fewer conferences, and it would give them "the inside track" on getting ND to join if/when the future changes enough to necessitate ND to join a conference.

Having said that, I find it hard to believe that ND would ever join the SEC.

But I still think that the Big 10 wants to signal its intent to ND about "whenever you guys are ready, we're here for you".

Also, ND is the ONLY remaining available school that will NEVER be dilutive. I don't care if the Big 10 had 32 members, they would definitely benefit by making ND the 33rd member.

 

[Rickd]

Why do you think the CFP regulations will become tighter and require conference affiliation? People seem to bend over backwards for Notre Dame, I don't see anything that would force that to change. If anything, these latest CFP discussions made it EASIER to stay independent for ND because they got all sorts of carve-outs.

There have been many speculative comments made on where the CFP and conference affiliations are potentially headed ... being divorced from the NCAA ... a totally new "conference" structure with the equivalent of the NFC / AFC at the college level, also including athletes as employees, new, well thought out regulations, and even collective bargaining. If that happens there would then be a CFP for that "conference" and most likely a second one for what essentially would be "the others G5 level".

Is this "good" for what we have known as "college sports"?, no, it is a purely money driven structure designed to enable the networks to schedule almost exclusively BIG TIME matchups for national viewing that will bring more eyes to the channel, increase the value of commercial time $$. The ones laying out these potential changes aren't "football fans" they are media programming specialists. The risk is that we lose a lot of what made college football such a powerful vehicle ... passion, following a team, pageantry, tradition, love of a program and the game.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

There's a lot of projection thrown from you in that post much like that **** coming from that dog's *** in your avatar. Which that's a perfect one for you because most of the stuff you post is dog****.

Regardless of where you lived you can still have terrible **** opinions. Which exactly is what your so called assessment is. I've lived in multiple places over my 45 years with a good portion also being in "the south" so I know first hand the **** stereotype narrative you're repeating to try and paint a whole ******* region in a bad light. In addition, it has nothing to do why the SEC doesn't have us on top of their expansion list.

I'll be here regardless of your predictions coming true or not. Been here longer than your *** so not concerned. I won't hold my breath though as it's already not looking good with your *** scrambling and back tracking. Regardless I hope you're right honestly because I just want what's best for Miami.

I'm not concerned with upvotes. Maybe they just like someone calling your *** out for the nonsense you post sometimes.

Holy ****, you are hilarious.

Sooo...your join-date is ONE MONTH before mine in 2011? What a dopey argument. I'm sure that will come in handy when CIS decides to start doing layoffs by seniority.

I don't give a rat's *** what you think about my "opinions". As I made clear from my posts, I've actually heard those things expressed IN CONVERSATIONS with high-dollar alums and donors of various SEC programs.

So go cry somewhere else. I always find it amusing when whiners such as yourself feel compelled to stand up for the feelings and sensitivities of Southern white-folk. Because, you know, they've had it so tough for the last few hundred years.

I realize that know-nothings such as yourself are going to characterize years worth of postings about conference realignments as "predictions". And that when the facts and circumstances change, those of us in the know will be accused of "scrambling" and "back tracking" when we post updated info. It doesn't bother me that much, because I know where I get my information and how.

But ungrateful know-nothings such as yourself should just leave CIS to be fans on the "Miami fan Facebook page". In that way, you can feel free to discuss all the latest published newspaper articles from insightful hacks like Barry Jackson and Susan Miller Degnan, and you don't have to be bothered by up-to-the-minute information from those of us with UM degrees and UM friends and UM knowledge.

Yeah. We're "scrambling" and "back tracking". It couldn't possibly be the case that the situation is fast-moving and ever-changing, and certain of us care about having accurate information out there in the public discourse.

No, that would be too easy. We are really just psychics who make "predictions" and then "scramble" and "back track".

But, hey, thanks for your 13+ years on CIS, where you have leeched off of everyone else's information while calling them names and (falsely) acting like you are better than everyone because you "keep it real".

 

[Ispyin]

What are you're ultimate high level end result predictions for $/time as of today @TheOriginalCane @Ispyin @Hurracanes etc

Though the road has had twists and turns, I'm still riding and dying with what I have said/heard/alluded to a year ago (and tbh two years ago but we weren't discussing it here much and I wasn't going to say anything at that point anyway as it was just piecemeal): B1G by 2026/2027 and I will say it costs $150-$175M or less depending on court rulings, votes to destroy conference, horse-trading etc. Could be 100% share down to 50% share ala oregon/uw for first contract but it's irrelevant to us day to day for a couple years.

When do we know for sure? That's a moving target tbh IMO. Worst case Feb1 2025 if I had to call a last date purely tied to ESPN issue. But I just think the momentum conference wide is too strong now for this to get dragged out- if it goes past that date then I'd bet FSU still isn't officially out because court fight and potential $ risk is still going on/too high. Tend to doubt it. I'm praying for dissolution option to be viable by june 30 but I'm optimistically skeptical on getting 8 on board for that.

(and because it's Miami and we are always writing the next documentary, the irony of the person who helped neglect and hurt the program - though not out of the hate some think - in Donna Shalala has a possible redemption arc in the form of the money thrown off from the U health system after years of pain and her connections in the B1G which she is using helping to save what was almost destroyed)

Could I be wrong and contacts off and Handsome get to drink tea? Sure- possible and I'll take the L publicly. (What I won't do is tolerate trolls who think this is all direct line tic tac toe with an infant level **** who lose their mind when even those in total awareness have been surprised at some developments and YES those have taken place. Do you see me making recruit predictions? No. Why- because I have no ******* information (unless purely accidental) on that nor any professional experience in that area. Want to discard what I say- have at it - free country and all but if you just want announced facts for your fragile would, read the herald and susan deegan- not sure why you come here in the off season.)

Do I think I'll be wrong despite the optics frustrations currently with AD? Nah, I'm going to be ready not for sipping tea but for receipt dunking.

 

[ssvir]

Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that if fans want to watch the SEC, which is comprised of southern states, they have to go to Disney owned ESPN. And to watch the B1G, which covers the northeast and west coast, they have to go to Fox?

 

[atlCanesFan]

Baylor, SMU, TCU?

All private, but the question was would they become P2, since they are in the B1g 12 that does not seem likely

 

[QuattroCane]

That is a **** ton of Engineers.

But none of those schools is Miami, with 5 national titles and 9 title appearences in the last 40 years. Stanford is a phenomenal school, but the Big Ten already passed on them once.

Duke (IF IF IF football continues to improve). - well I have to take a shot here, it's too much of a layup. They hired Manny Diaz, so we can guarantee that their football will NOT continue to improve. We have experience here, we know. I pity Duke.

I have to keep reminding people outside of the Miami sphere that if they're 40 years old, Miami has played in fully a QUARTER of every national championship ever played in their lifetime. **** near, anyway. We've earned to be in that conversation with the Alabamas, Oklahomas, Nebraskas and Notre Dames of the world as a true blue blood dynasty program.

Luckily for us, while the majority of message board and twitter idiots are under 30, the vast majority of TV execs, conference commissioners, university presidents, and bigwigs around college football are over 40 and "The U" brand pulls a lot of weight with them. The people who matter are over 40, and they remember seeing a lot of Miami in championship games.

Nailed it here.
It makes me laugh every time, mostly, FSU fans try to talk down Miami when the reality is Miami is still and will likely always be a big draw. I liken it to Indiana in basketball, that name resonates college basketball.
****, even Nebraska in football is still a "brand". If your team is playing them you're going to watch and so will other fans.
Prime example, my daughter is going to an SEC school in the fall and when we went to visit, every person that found out we were Miami fans talked our ear off about the program and it's history.

 

[RightSaidFred]

Nailed it here.
It makes me laugh every time, mostly, FSU fans try to talk down Miami when the reality is Miami is still and will likely always be a big draw. I liken it to Indiana in basketball, that name resonates college basketball.
****, even Nebraska in football is still a "brand". If your team is playing them you're going to watch and so will other fans.
Prime example, my daughter is going to an SEC school in the fall and when we went to visit, every person that found out we were Miami fans talked our ear off about the program and it's history.

Nebraska is absolutely a blue blood program.

Miami, Alabama, Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, FSU and Notre Dame are the ONLY blue bloods in college football, full stop.

Everyone else is a tier below. Notice that includes teams like Texas, LSU, Ohio State and Michigan….a tier below.

The teams that are blue bloods are the ones that have had dynasties while owning nearly a decade to themselves. We’re in that elite group

 

[cway313]

Nebraska is absolutely a blue blood program.

Miami, Alabama, Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, FSU and Notre Dame are the ONLY blue bloods in college football, full stop.

Everyone else is a tier below. Notice that includes teams like Texas, LSU, Ohio State and Michigan….a tier below.

The teams that are blue bloods are the ones that have had dynasties while owning nearly a decade to themselves. We’re in that elite group

Did you put Miami and blue blood in same sentence? This isn't an accurate statement.

 

[RightSaidFred]

This is why we need to bring back bullying in schools.

If you’re not proud of what this program has accomplished with 5 natties then you’re no Cane. And if you can’t say with your chest that Miami has earned its spot at the top then you’re weak.

If Canes fans aren’t going to talk up the Canes then who is? Keep dreaming buddy, you couldn’t bully anyone, everything about your reaction signals a weak and soft mentality. You’re the kind of person who does what they’re told and believes whatever they’re told to believe. I don’t have time for you.

 

[Empirical Cane]

I think we need a good old fashion woo off.



Top 10 TV of all time

 

[QuattroCane]

I love this fanbase!

 

[thesentinel]

Neither us or FSU are blue bloods. We didn’t start winning until the 70s and 80s.


Notre dame and Michigan and Ohio state etc have been playing football since the 1800s. They’re the real blue bloods. Notre dame hasn’t won **** since 1988 but still gets preferential treatment because of **** they did in the 1910s. That’s real blue blood ****

 

[Empirical Cane]

Neither us or FSU are blue bloods. We didn’t start winning until the 70s and 80s.


Notre dame and Michigan and Ohio state etc have been playing football since the 1800s. They’re the real blue bloods. Notre dame hasn’t won **** since 1988 but still gets preferential treatment because of **** they did in the 1910s. That’s real blue blood ****

When you cut us deep, don't you and I and all the other porsters bleed the same blood maaaaaaaahhhhhhnnnnn?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Neither us or FSU are blue bloods. We didn’t start winning until the 70s and 80s.


Notre dame and Michigan and Ohio state etc have been playing football since the 1800s. They’re the real blue bloods. Notre dame hasn’t won **** since 1988 but still gets preferential treatment because of **** they did in the 1910s. That’s real blue blood ****

Yeahhhh...

"Bluebloods" is just short for "won a lot of games when black athletes were not allowed to compete".

 

[Virginia_Cane]

Yeahhhh...

"Bluebloods" is just short for "won a lot of games when black athletes were not allowed to compete".

Yale has won 18 national championships in football. Definition of blue blood

 

[Tru C]

 

[Ispyin]

Nebraska is absolutely a blue blood program.

Miami, Alabama, Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, FSU and Notre Dame are the ONLY blue bloods in college football, full stop.

Everyone else is a tier below. Notice that includes teams like Texas, LSU, Ohio State and Michigan….a tier below.

The teams that are blue bloods are the ones that have had dynasties while owning nearly a decade to themselves. We’re in that elite group

I like what you’re drinking, but if we’re being honest, that’s not really what the definition of blue blood programs is in as much as I don’t like them, saying that Ohio State is not a blue blood program as just one example would be refuted by the vast majority of college football, experts, and fans, even if they hate Ohio State

 

[Noliaboi]

This how I view it when I think of CFB and its history.

Blue bloods: Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State

Next Tier: Us, FSU, UF, LSU, Georgia, Penn State

*Oregon, Clemson, Washington (may be close to joining the above tier)

 

[JennStrawley’sBabyDaddy]

This how I view it when I think of CFB and its history.

Blue bloods: Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State

Next Tier: Us, FSU, UF, LSU, Georgia, Penn State

*Oregon, Clemson, Washington (may be close to joining the above tier)

I respect your opinion, but I’d put Washington and Oregon outside the top 20 for blue blood programs. Clemson is knocking on the door of that 2nd tier, but not the other 2 IMO. I’d put Auburn and Tenn (a few others too) above those 2.