MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

[thesentinel]

The B10 has already admitted that that was a mistake ... they took Rutgers "based on proximity to a huge market" but now with the media partners involved ... the REALIZATION is that "viewer draw" is the critical metric. Nobody in that huge "Rutgers market" watches Rutgers / B10 football. Huge fail. The new "baseline metric" is the potential to draw a MINIMUM of 4 million viewers for games vs decent opponents. Miami drew 4.02 viewers for a 3:30 game against A&M. Prime time games between top 10-15 ranked programs will draw 6-8 million. UM fits the profile and just needs to keep winning.

It wasn't a mistake. The way their contract works for the B10 network is heavily based on carriage fees. They managed to put the squeeze on cable carriers for households within b1g school markets. I don't know if they can still do that going forward, but it would make many of their decisions make sense. They want maximum coast to coast cable subscribers, regardless of who watches. The opposite is the SEC going for non-stop premium matchups to just get raw eyeball totals.

I used to think that and agree that they shouldn't be but I'm not so sure now.

I think there actually could be some prisoner of the moment groupthink at play and things could be definitely fluid.

FSU has one good year last year and all of a sudden they're one of the belles of the ball?

Stanford has 3 or 4 consecutive down seasons after about a decade of a averaging double digit win seasons and being part of probably the most successful overall athletic department in the country but now have to beg their way into a dying ACC?

UVag has been mentioned repeatedly as a possible B1G addition. If they finish this year with like one win and in last place in the ACC, do we really think their stock won't be heavily damaged if addl realignment is imminent?

Actual quality of product doesn't matter. FSU has an enormous fanbase and almost 50k students. They mint 10k alumni+ a year, most of whom are americans who care about football. Stanford has 15k total students, most of whom are people who don't give a **** about football.

 

[Mikeiavelli]

I think FSU would fit perfectly in the new SEC lol

 

[Tony4Canes]

 

[DerpaDerp]

 

[CreativeCane]

"It’s a couple hundred million dollars. I’m not losing sleep over it.”

SMU could become a problem. That kind of money will get their NIL program rolling, too.

 

[Badbart43]

"It’s a couple hundred million dollars. I’m not losing sleep over it.”

SMU could become a problem. That kind of money will get their NIL program rolling, too.

They wont be a problem we have to deal with for very long since we are heading to the B10.

 

[Shogungts]

Like him or not, there is no denying that Deion has been able to pull massive TV numbers so far

The Colorado vs Colorado St game just had the 5th highest ratings ever for a ESPN game despite not starting until 10PM EST. I imagine this will wear off as people get used to Deion and they inevitably get crushed by USC and/or OU, but crazy numbers that Colorado has pulled so far.

Saturday’s Colorado State-Colorado college football game averaged a 4.9 rating and 9.30 million viewers on ESPN, marking the largest late night college football audience on record and the fifth-largest regular season audience ever on the ESPN family of networks.

Colorado’s double-overtime win, which peaked with 11.1 million viewers from 11-11:15 PM ET, also delivered the largest college football audience of the season. The previous high was 9.17 million for FSU-LSU on ABC on the Sunday of Labor Day weekend.

Colorado has now played in three of the five most-watched games this season, with their week two matchup against Nebraska ranking fourth (8.73M) and their season opener against TCU placing fifth (7.26M). The only non-Colorado games in the top five are the aforementioned FSU-LSU in week one and Texas-Alabama on ESPN in week two (8.76M).

The most-watched Colorado game last season was their opener against TCU, a Friday night game that averaged 1.25 million on ESPN. The last time Colorado and Colorado State played on Nielsen-rated television, a Friday night game in week one of the 2019 season, their matchup averaged 1.28 million on ESPN.

Other than last year’s Winter Olympics Super Bowl lead-out (21.28M), no late night sporting event has averaged a larger audience since 2019 — when Broncos-Raiders averaged 10.6 million in the back half of a Week 1 NFL Monday Night Football doubleheader.

By comparison, the top late night NBA playoff game on record was this year’s Warriors-Lakers Game 6 on ESPN, which averaged 8.64 million viewers. The top late night Major League Baseball playoff game — a weather-delayed Padres-Braves NLCS Game 1 in 1998 — averaged 8.33 million on FOX.

Largest college football audiences ever on ESPN​

Excluding bowls and conference championship games​

Colorado-CSU scores season-high 9.3 million despite late start

Deion Sanders continues to turn Colorado into a ratings magnet, with the Buffaloes scoring their biggest audience yet Saturday night.

www.sportsmediawatch.com

 

[Midlo Cane Fan]

Good Lord....

 

[Cane6]

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Oh, ****, don't show that Genetics post to @NorthernVirginiaCane , he's already too invested in the "GOR is ironclad" position...

The ACC GOR has never been constructed properly, in that it doesn't address "breach" or "exit" situations. In the most simplistic way of describing it, the ACC just felt that the GOR would fix everything, so much so that they never contemplated or drafted language for what would happen if anyone was UNHAPPY with how things were going.

It's OK to expect the best if you have prepared for the worst. The ACC only acted on the first half of that statement.

 

[Rickd]

Oh, ****, don't show that Genetics post to @NorthernVirginiaCane , he's already too invested in the "GOR is ironclad" position...

The ACC GOR has never been constructed properly, in that it doesn't address "breach" or "exit" situations. In the most simplistic way of describing it, the ACC just felt that the GOR would fix everything, so much so that they never contemplated or drafted language for what would happen if anyone was UNHAPPY with how things were going.

It's OK to expect the best if you have prepared for the worst. The ACC only acted on the first half of that statement.

I can just hear a presiding judge commenting to the ACC attorney "seriously, you didn't even contemplate in your "agreement" that some party might find issues down the road with a GOR that is DOUBLE the term length of any GOR that has ever been written?".

 

[Cane6]

Oh, ****, don't show that Genetics post to @NorthernVirginiaCane , he's already too invested in the "GOR is ironclad" position...

The ACC GOR has never been constructed properly, in that it doesn't address "breach" or "exit" situations. In the most simplistic way of describing it, the ACC just felt that the GOR would fix everything, so much so that they never contemplated or drafted language for what would happen if anyone was UNHAPPY with how things were going.

It's OK to expect the best if you have prepared for the worst. The ACC only acted on the first half of that statement.

With the recent rumblings of P2 conferences breaking away from ncaa, and the FOX/ESPN splitting if Big12 games, I’d expect the two media companies to cut a deal to let the top few ACC teams exit, just as well all expected

 

[NorthernVirginiaCane]

Oh, ****, don't show that Genetics post to @NorthernVirginiaCane , he's already too invested in the "GOR is ironclad" position...

The ACC GOR has never been constructed properly, in that it doesn't address "breach" or "exit" situations. In the most simplistic way of describing it, the ACC just felt that the GOR would fix everything, so much so that they never contemplated or drafted language for what would happen if anyone was UNHAPPY with how things were going.

It's OK to expect the best if you have prepared for the worst. The ACC only acted on the first half of that statement.

Lol. That Big Ten shill isn't a practicing attorney.

The big 12 term was up in a year or two. Apples and oranges.

I'm still waiting on all these schools breaking the GOR. Not happening anytime this decade ....

 

[Cajuncane]

The Colorado vs Colorado St game just had the 5th highest ratings ever for a ESPN game despite not starting until 10PM EST. I imagine this will wear off as people get used to Deion and they inevitably get crushed by USC and/or OU, but crazy numbers that Colorado has pulled so far.

Saturday’s Colorado State-Colorado college football game averaged a 4.9 rating and 9.30 million viewers on ESPN, marking the largest late night college football audience on record and the fifth-largest regular season audience ever on the ESPN family of networks.

Colorado’s double-overtime win, which peaked with 11.1 million viewers from 11-11:15 PM ET, also delivered the largest college football audience of the season. The previous high was 9.17 million for FSU-LSU on ABC on the Sunday of Labor Day weekend.

Colorado has now played in three of the five most-watched games this season, with their week two matchup against Nebraska ranking fourth (8.73M) and their season opener against TCU placing fifth (7.26M). The only non-Colorado games in the top five are the aforementioned FSU-LSU in week one and Texas-Alabama on ESPN in week two (8.76M).

The most-watched Colorado game last season was their opener against TCU, a Friday night game that averaged 1.25 million on ESPN. The last time Colorado and Colorado State played on Nielsen-rated television, a Friday night game in week one of the 2019 season, their matchup averaged 1.28 million on ESPN.

Other than last year’s Winter Olympics Super Bowl lead-out (21.28M), no late night sporting event has averaged a larger audience since 2019 — when Broncos-Raiders averaged 10.6 million in the back half of a Week 1 NFL Monday Night Football doubleheader.

By comparison, the top late night NBA playoff game on record was this year’s Warriors-Lakers Game 6 on ESPN, which averaged 8.64 million viewers. The top late night Major League Baseball playoff game — a weather-delayed Padres-Braves NLCS Game 1 in 1998 — averaged 8.33 million on FOX.

Largest college football audiences ever on ESPN​

Excluding bowls and conference championship games​

Colorado-CSU scores season-high 9.3 million despite late start

Deion Sanders continues to turn Colorado into a ratings magnet, with the Buffaloes scoring their biggest audience yet Saturday night.

www.sportsmediawatch.com

Will be curious to see how those massive numbers hold up if they start getting their doors blown off….

 

[Cane6]

Lol. That Big Ten shill isn't a practicing attorney.

The big 12 term was up in a year or two. Apples and oranges.

I'm still waiting on all these schools breaking the GOR. Not happening anytime this decade ....

When it happens within 3 years from now you promise to leave the board?

 

[Ispyin]

Awesome it’s been at least a week since we saw a good @TheOriginalCane versus northern
V fight

 

[USNAVYCANE]

Part of what’s failed to be taken into account is that ESPN doesn’t want the acc to fall apart and they’re happy playing them less , so the acc teams shouldn’t expect espn to help get them out of the acc

 

[dycane]

Lol. That Big Ten shill isn't a practicing attorney.

The big 12 term was up in a year or two. Apples and oranges.

I'm still waiting on all these schools breaking the GOR. Not happening anytime this decade ....

Would not be an efficient breach for the first party out of the gate.

 

[Rickd]

Part of what’s failed to be taken into account is that ESPN doesn’t want the acc to fall apart and they’re happy playing them less , so the acc teams shouldn’t expect espn to help get them out of the acc

Got to look at the bigger picture. ESPN would make A LOT more $$$ by programming games between FSU / Clemson and UGA, Tennessee etc. than they get from FSU vs Syracuse. Big time game programming is what realignment is all about.

 

[camber_2374]

The Colorado vs Colorado St game just had the 5th highest ratings ever for a ESPN game despite not starting until 10PM EST. I imagine this will wear off as people get used to Deion and they inevitably get crushed by USC and/or OU, but crazy numbers that Colorado has pulled so far.

Saturday’s Colorado State-Colorado college football game averaged a 4.9 rating and 9.30 million viewers on ESPN, marking the largest late night college football audience on record and the fifth-largest regular season audience ever on the ESPN family of networks.

Colorado’s double-overtime win, which peaked with 11.1 million viewers from 11-11:15 PM ET, also delivered the largest college football audience of the season. The previous high was 9.17 million for FSU-LSU on ABC on the Sunday of Labor Day weekend.

Colorado has now played in three of the five most-watched games this season, with their week two matchup against Nebraska ranking fourth (8.73M) and their season opener against TCU placing fifth (7.26M). The only non-Colorado games in the top five are the aforementioned FSU-LSU in week one and Texas-Alabama on ESPN in week two (8.76M).

The most-watched Colorado game last season was their opener against TCU, a Friday night game that averaged 1.25 million on ESPN. The last time Colorado and Colorado State played on Nielsen-rated television, a Friday night game in week one of the 2019 season, their matchup averaged 1.28 million on ESPN.

Other than last year’s Winter Olympics Super Bowl lead-out (21.28M), no late night sporting event has averaged a larger audience since 2019 — when Broncos-Raiders averaged 10.6 million in the back half of a Week 1 NFL Monday Night Football doubleheader.

By comparison, the top late night NBA playoff game on record was this year’s Warriors-Lakers Game 6 on ESPN, which averaged 8.64 million viewers. The top late night Major League Baseball playoff game — a weather-delayed Padres-Braves NLCS Game 1 in 1998 — averaged 8.33 million on FOX.

Largest college football audiences ever on ESPN​

Excluding bowls and conference championship games​

Colorado-CSU scores season-high 9.3 million despite late start

Deion Sanders continues to turn Colorado into a ratings magnet, with the Buffaloes scoring their biggest audience yet Saturday night.

www.sportsmediawatch.com

Not disagreeing with you, but the way they count ratings is different now than in the past. So today's numbers compared to the past are inflated imo. https://www.axios.com/2020/09/01/sports-viewership-ratings-nielsen