MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

[GhostRecon_Cane]

I think these additions are good for Miami in the long run and here's why: the ACC is planning for the exit of at least the big 3 (Miami, FSU, Clemson).

Why would the ACC randomly add three teams? Because they know three teams are gone. While school presidents usually aren't that impressive, Jim Phillips knows what he's doing and he knows what's going on. He knows that FSU and Clemson are gone, he knows that we want out as well... But how does the inevitable happen without the complete collapse of the entire conference? You add more schools that you have zero worry about leaving.

The ACC just wants to still be a conference in 2026. This is their way to do it. I would not be surprised if there were some backroom deals with ESPN, telling the ACC. Get late night window games, that could potentially have good matchups, get into San Francisco. Get into Dallas, and keep UNC versus Duke for basketball, then ESPN will continue to pay the current rate for the current deal even without the big boys. It is still a great deal for them for over 10 years, the only negative is they still have to staff and pay for the ACC network. As long as the North Carolina schools stay together, there will still be a conference and it will still have eyeballs, at least for basketball. What the ACC does not want to happen is for everyone to leave putting them all out of jobs, and ESPN doesn't want that to happen because then they have to pay new money to now. Bigger conferences in the SEC and Big 12, and they potentially lose more to Fox/NBC if the Big 10 poaches.

I think this is part of a deal to let FSU in Clemson go to the SEC, keeping them in the ESPN universe, then let Miami go to the Big ten. Will there be a partner in Georgia tech? Maybe. I think this says North Carolina isn't leaving and they rallied the troops for a deal to keep the conference.

Just a theory.

This is actually believable

 

[RVACane]

I know this is a pipe dream but if notre dame ended up being the fourth school perhaps espn steps up to the plate and reworks the deal. With the addition of the four schools this looks to be a formidable conference going forward, not an afterthought. Plenty of marquee matchups and perhaps espn decides to build in ratings kickers into a new deal. Having notre dame could really change the trajectory of the acc

It’s definitely a better group with ND. I don’t see ND joining. I hope we get out fwiw

 

[Hurracanes]

We're taking the bag now in the ACC, but plan to flip to the B1G at the end... (the end could be 2026, 2027, 2036)

Well played. I still predict 2026.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

It’s definitely a better group with ND. I don’t see ND joining. I hope we get out fwiw

If we don’t get out, this program (along with every other program stuck in the ACC) is dead. Done. Finished. Financially, competitively, you name it.

I still believe we’re gone, it’s just a matter of when, not if. But man would I like to see us have some cojones and pride and take the lead one time.

Maybe after this season (God willing we ball out and win 9+ games), we’ll have the confidence to do so.

 

[RVACane]

If we don’t get out, this program (along with every other program stuck in the ACC) is dead. Done. Finished. Financially, competitively, you name it.

I still believe we’re gone, it’s just a matter of when, not if. But man would I like to see us have some cojones and pride and take the lead one time.

Maybe after this season (God willing we ball out and win 9+ games), we’ll have the confidence to do so.

Yeah, there’s no 3rd conference competing with the SEC and BIG

 

[CANEMC]

 

[Ispyin]

Thanks, Spy!

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no problem @RVACane

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[TheOriginalCane]

I’m right. She was able to get Stanford in. One of you said she didn’t hold any cards and I said you don’t know what she’d holding. Apparently a reduced share of the revenue was a card in her pocket. Bottom line I was told she couldn’t do **** to get Stanford in and i said she’s a viable person, more so than Rubio - and she gets involved and now they’re in.

Nope. Not falling for this one.

I realize that YOUR reference might have been STANFORD ONLY. But the original commentary was whether Condi could convince Notre Dame to join and pull in other colleges too. And that still ain't happened.

What I said about leverage was absolutely true, she has no leverage to get Notre Dame on board.

As for whether SHE got Stanford in, I would simply argue that the cut-rate is what might get Stanford in, not some magical Condi words.

Same thing that got Washington-Oregon Big 10 bids when the conference (and TV networks) otherwise would not take them.

Again, USF could get a Big 10 bid RIGHT NOW if they agreed to play for free for 25 years. Half of the Big 10 grads have retired to SW FL, and I've seen the car carrier caravans to prove it.

 

[Midlo Cane Fan]

 

[TheOriginalCane]

of course, man, because she was definitely the only person in the world who could sit there and say that Stanford would sell their soul for half price or less just to get into a conference. Definitely all her. No one else would have it pulled off If it does. Only her. You are the Maude god.

I can understand that WC-RVA (West Coast Richmond Virginia) Cane could have been talking about his new favorite school (Stanford), but my original response about having zero leverage was about the Notre Dame combo platter. Which was what Genetics/Cane & Able was talking about.

I will never be mad at WC-RVA, he is entitled to worship Condoleezza from afar just as George W. does.

But the decision to take a half-share wasn't some Condi Rice negotiating ploy. It is funded by the Stanford endowment fund and rich alums.

And last time I checked, ND is still independent.

I realize we are in the fog of war here, but my point has ALWAYS been that Stanford-Cal-SMU do nothing to move the needle permanently. Which is why I responded to Genetics saying that ND is on the table, which he has done before (remember the tweet a couple of weeks ago, that ND was closer to joining the Big 10 than anyone knew?).

ND ain't goin' nowhere. Which was a core of my response. So if we have confusion over "ND-Stanford-Cal-SMU" vs. "Condi got Stanford in", let's be very clear at this point.

The ACC would take East Carolina RIGHT NOW if they agreed to play for free for 100 years.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

Clemson, UNC, FSU and NC State huh…

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[SPAMM]

I just can't fathom a way that anyone in the ACC could think keeping the conference together as it currently stands and just adding SMU, Cal and Stanford would be beneficial for anyone in the long run. Short of adding ND to the conference for football, there is really no legitimately valuable programs left to poach. Staying in the ACC would be a death knell for us and would condemn us to nothing more than mediocrity for the rest of our time as a program. We HAVE to find a way to get this done one way or the other.

Why wouldn't the presidents of Wake and BC for example think keeping the ACC is better than the alternative future for them?

 

[RVACane]

Nope. Not falling for this one.

I realize that YOUR reference might have been STANFORD ONLY. But the original commentary was whether Condi could convince Notre Dame to join and pull in other colleges too. And that still ain't happened.

What I said about leverage was absolutely true, she has no leverage to get Notre Dame on board.

As for whether SHE got Stanford in, I would simply argue that the cut-rate is what might get Stanford in, not some magical Condi words.

Same thing that got Washington-Oregon Big 10 bids when the conference (and TV networks) otherwise would not take them.

Again, USF could get a Big 10 bid RIGHT NOW if they agreed to play for free for 25 years. Half of the Big 10 grads have retired to SW FL, and I've seen the car carrier caravans to prove it.




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You missed one in blue. Stanford‘s getting in. All I said basically was don’t take her lightly and I was shunned for it.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Why wouldn't the presidents of Wake and BC for example think keeping the ACC is better than the alternative future for them?

This **** is Robin Hood in reverse. We are going to steal from SMU to give the money to Clemson. I'm sure that everyone will be happy...

 

[Rickd]

Why wouldn't the presidents of Wake and BC for example think keeping the ACC is better than the alternative future for them?

Any ACC program not named FSU / Clemson / Miami / UNC / Va Tech would need to be concerned as those are the top 5 that would have a shot at B10 / SEC. Then maybe 4 for the B12. There will be casualties and those definitely want the ACC to remain "viable" to any degree. Look at how badly SMU wants "in".

 

[kccanefan]

Well played. I still predict 2026.

I sure hope you and TOC are right.

 

[Fluffhead]

This would be one **** of an unfortunate time for Frenk to wake up at the wheel.

I was fine with us not running around like FSU. I was not comfortable with us not being included in the staunch and public NO votes, official, straw or otherwise. There was no reason to not be part of that group unless 1) they preferred to stay in the ACC, 2) our exit options disappeared in recent months, or 3) they weren’t at least undecided, which is troubling in its own right. Occam’s razor.

To quote Abba Eban, this school never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity and until they prove otherwise deserve no benefit of the doubt.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

You missed one in blue. Stanford‘s getting in. All I said basically was don’t take her lightly and I was shunned for it.

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No need to overreact like a mope. Nobody shunned you. You are still invited to my belated old-man bar mitzvah.

Look, you jumped into the conversation late, it's all good. You made some vague comments about Condi having magical powers of persuasion. You asked if Stanford hired her. But you never said "she'll get Stanford in, and I could care less (or "could not care less", depending on how the Grammar Nationalist-Socialists interpret the phrase) about Notre Dame".

Genetics reported that she was trying to get NOTRE DAME in, along with three other schools. If you have a problem with his sentence construction, that's a fair point to discuss with him.

I simply dismissed the Goddess Condi talk and said she had nothing to offer BECAUSE OF THE INCLUSION OF NOTRE DAME. Hence, my "no leverage" comment.

You and the other Condi fanboys got mad at me because I didn't think that Condi would deliver on the prediction made by Genetics, AND I WAS RIGHT.

I am going to report all of the people who Condi-slurper-bullied me!!!

 

[calinative umstudent]

Wait a minute. I haven’t been following this week. Was I right and the Conference Thread Hawks wrong about this lady’s viability on behalf of Stanford???

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@TheOriginalCane @Ispyin

Gotta wait till they're actually in before you're right though, never know what could happen ...

Michael Silver says they may only be joining in Football and Men/Women's Basketball. And the other reporting is for them (Stanford and Cal) to get like $9m each. And SMU $0...

We'll have to see.

 

[RVACane]

I can understand that WC-RVA (West Coast Richmond Virginia) Cane could have been talking about his new favorite school (Stanford), but my original response about having zero leverage was about the Notre Dame combo platter. Which was what Genetics/Cane & Able was talking about.

I will never be mad at WC-RVA, he is entitled to worship Condoleezza from afar just as George W. does.

But the decision to take a half-share wasn't some Condi Rice negotiating ploy. It is funded by the Stanford endowment fund and rich alums.

And last time I checked, ND is still independent.

I realize we are in the fog of war here, but my point has ALWAYS been that Stanford-Cal-SMU do nothing to move the needle permanently. Which is why I responded to Genetics saying that ND is on the table, which he has done before (remember the tweet a couple of weeks ago, that ND was closer to joining the Big 10 than anyone knew?).

ND ain't goin' nowhere. Which was a core of my response. So if we have confusion over "ND-Stanford-Cal-SMU" vs. "Condi got Stanford in", let's be very clear at this point.

The ACC would take East Carolina RIGHT NOW if they agreed to play for free for 100 years.