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Awsi Dooger said:
I love Frank Gore but there is nothing in his NFL resume that aligns with first ballot Hall of Fame.
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He's fifth all time in rushing. Everyone else in the Top 11 is in the Hall of Fame.

But let's drill down. Frank Gore's career yards per carry is 4.4. The only two people higher than Frank in the Top 10 are Jim Brown and Barry Sanders. He's the opposite of a compiler.

People forget how bad Frank's offenses have been, aside from a couple years with Harbaugh. He is the definition of a Hall of Famer.
 
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Frank Gore is getting into the HoF.
Curtis Martin retired as the #4 all-time rusher and he didn't get in on the first ballot (but got in on the 2nd)
It might be first ballot, it might not be, but Gore is getting in sooner than later, it's sure as **** not going to take a "long wait"
 
ajkreider said:
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
ajkreider said:
I don't think his name belongs with the greats, but it will be hard to leave him off. Yards from scrimmage will also be top ten (including wrs). If he doesn't go, he will be the highest non-HOF on a bunch of stat lists.
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Clown post.

He already is one of the greats.
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Be serious for a moment. In a draft of RBs, how far down would it take to get to Gore? He's in the Martin/Craig category, not the Sanders/Smith/Payton/Brown/Peterson/Tomlinson group.
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Seriously?

Are you going for lead clown in the clown parade?

He will be 4th next year in all time rushing yards. D-Money already nailed his ypc stats and how that relates to his greatness.

The question is: how is he not a first ballot Hall of Famer?
 
Frank didn't have the luxury of playing w/ a pro bowl QB; he didn't have the luxury of having pro bowl WRs and TEs flanking him. He didn't have the luxury of a prolific OL. Frank played on some horrible, HORRIBLE teams. Harbaugh came along and help him out a lot w/ his offensive concepts, but Frank was the 49ers offense for years. It was tough seeing the 9ers play the Ravens in the SB b/c I wanted Ed to get his ring too. Frank is definitely a HOFer.

He was over looked by many b/c of the crappy teams he's played for, but if he had healthy legs and a decent team, no doubt he would be top 2 all time, and I'm a huge Sweetness fan.
 
Consigliere said:
nystateofmind said:
I love Frank but if TO didn't get in on his first ballot, neither is Frank.

Probably a 2-3 year wait. No doubt he is a HOF though.
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There is no connection between the two players but good porst.
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Actually there is.

TO was a transcendent talent. At the peak of his game he was a Top 5 player.

Gore was never at that level. His candidacy is more based around his longevity and consistency.

If TO, who was a better player, has to wait a few years, so will Frank.
 
nystateofmind said:
Consigliere said:
nystateofmind said:
I love Frank but if TO didn't get in on his first ballot, neither is Frank.

Probably a 2-3 year wait. No doubt he is a HOF though.
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There is no connection between the two players but good porst.
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Actually there is.

TO was a transcendent talent. At the peak of his game he was a Top 5 player.

Gore was never at that level. His candidacy is more based around his longevity and consistency.

If TO, who was a better player, has to wait a few years, so will Frank.
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I am not agreeing or disagreeing with your porst.

I am just saying there is NO connection between Frank and TO. Just like there is NO connection between Steve Jobs and John Bobbitt,
 
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So do tell me how he is not a HOF'er?
 
No one is saying he's not HOF, just not an all time great. Would I take him over:

Smith - No
Payton - No
Sanders - No
Martin - Yes
Tomlinson - No
Bettis - Yes
****erson - No
Dorsett - No
Brown - No
Faulk - No
Peterson - No

These are the top 12 in yards. Not even talking about OJ or Marcus Allen, Sayers or Earl Campbell, etc.
 
Disagree:

Smith - No
Payton - No
Sanders - Yes (Dude was spectacular, but never got Detroit to the Postseason)
Martin - Yes
Tomlinson - No
Bettis - Yes
****erson - Yes (injury prone, no Postseason)
Dorsett - No
Brown - No
Faulk - No
Peterson - No

OJ - Yes (again durability and ONE postseason game)

Marcus Allen - No

Gayle Sayers - Yes (Durability and postseason absence)

Earl Campbell - No
 
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If you'd take Frank Gore over Barry Sanders…


I don't even know what to tell you.
 
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Clowns giving their own personal preference for running backs has nothing to do with the merits of Gore’s candidacy to the HOF and on what ballot.

May as well say what your favorite colors are.

Totally irrelevant.

The two most pertinent numbers, total rushing yards, and ypc, compared to the top ten NFL rushers, are irrefutable. Personal preference for running backs are irrelevant.
 
Gore is a HOFer, but it is rare that a guy who wasn't far and away the best at his position makes it as a first ballot guy. Gore is a stat accumulator, he has been consistently good, but hardly elite throughout his career. When one looks at his numbers, they are impressive, but they are impressive more because he has managed to stay on the field as a tailback. For him to accumulate his numbers bit by bit, and without those HUGE seasons is what will get him in. That said, we've seen far more impactful players not get in on the first ballot, Cris Carter comes to mind.

Curtis Martin had a similar career to FG, and he was a second ballot guy, and he played in a major market for a lot of his career. I think Frank should be a guy that gets in on his second ballot, but because he spent a majority of his career on the west coast may not get the votes from the eastern media, pushing selection back a year or two.
 
CaneFan79 said:
Disagree:

Smith - No
Payton - No
Sanders - Yes (Dude was spectacular, but never got Detroit to the Postseason)
Martin - Yes
Tomlinson - No
Bettis - Yes
****erson - Yes (injury prone, no Postseason)
Dorsett - No
Brown - No
Faulk - No
Peterson - No

OJ - Yes (again durability and ONE postseason game)

Marcus Allen - No

Gayle Sayers - Yes (Durability and postseason absence)

Earl Campbell - No
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Detroit made the postseason multiple times with Barry, in fact he carried them to an NFC Championship game. The problem is that he couldn't consistently carry a garbage team to glory.
 
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First off, you cannot blame Barry Sanders because the ******* Lions couldn't make the big one.

He was all they had.

Secondly, would he be on an all NFL-team? There are so many good runningbacks throughout the years.

1st, 2nd, and 3rd string would be something like:

Jim Brown
Emmitt Smith
Walter Payton

But there were plenty others:

Larry Csonka
John Riggins
Marshall Faulk
Edgerrin James
Eric ****erson
Bo Jackson

etc. etc. etc.

I think he's worthy of being in the HOF.

In my mind, he makes an all-time Hurricanes team, easily.
 
Dammit mane.. He's definitely in my fantasy football HOF. I won so many leagues with GORE being my starting running back..
 
Sorry *** Terrell Davis is in the HOF and he had like three good years. That dude couldn't carry Frank Gore's jockstrap. The only knock against Gore is that he's been on bad team a majority of his career. Personally I give more credit to guys like him and Barry Sanders. Everybody knows you're getting the ball. Your teams has no quarterback or threat to throw at all. You still manage to pound out 100 yards against a defense that knows what's coming. That overrated gaytor Emmit Smith played on a team with a hall of fame quarterback, hall of fame receiver and one of the greatest offensive lines in history blocking for him. If Frank Gore had played on those Cowboy teams, he'd already be the all time leading rusher in league history. I'll take consistent greatness over flash in the pan ability every day of the week.
 
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